Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another AP Icon Demolished - no �adopted� or �Official Plan� plan
PUT MY NAME DOWN TOO!! -al mc daniel --- sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Sign me up for the recall petition! <]:~) > > -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > There certainly is an "adopted plan". The > process was followed > > > (assuming for the moment it was the correct > process) and > resolutiond > > > were passed. > > > > > > The Offical Adopted Plan is the one on file at > the City Clerks > > > Office. > > > > > > The Clerks Office is, by law, the official > keeper of the City > > Record. > > > One should (assuming the Clerks Office is > functioning properly) > get > > a > > > copy of the Adopted Plan which was offically > logged and filed. > > > > > > Lets see where this goes. > > > > Werner, remember, this is Asbury Park. I would not > count on it. > Sorry > > you missed the council meeting tonight. They TRIED > to defuse the > > situation by repeating the lame stories. Aaron > actually tried to > make > > people believe that Asbury Partners did the > unofficial official > plan > > (June 2002) and tried to make that the plan. Keady > saw through > this in > > that there was no incentive for Asbury Partners > trying to add > language > > that was more adverse to them with regard to C-8. > I beleive they > are > > stupid, but not that stupid. Keady was blown off > by the cast of > usual > > suspects. However, I was especially dismayed by Ed > Johnson > reaction > > who took Keady to task and told him to move on. Ed > said the June > 2002 > > plan was just a mistake. A bigger mistake is him > being a > > councilmember. I guess he took DJ's article in TCN > to heart and is > now > > going to play ball with his team cohorts. > > > > Back to the city clerk. As I said earlier, Kay > told me that the > plan > > he considered the official adopted plan was the > June 2002 version > at > > issue. That is he said, until Don Sammet told him > it wasn't. He > called > > me later in the day to say he had a copy of the > ordinance (2607) > that > > adopted the plan attached to the March 15, 2002 > plan. Don Sammet > told > > him was the one adopted. That is the integrity of > our public > record > > keeping. I assure you, if anyone actually knew > what is the adopted > > plan, they ain't telling. > > > > At the meeting I pointed out another detail which > shows that they > are > > blowing smoke up our asses. The ordinance adopting > the plan says > it > > gave the plan to the Planning board for review on > 1/16/2002 > (meaning > > the plan had to be created before this date). The > PB gave its > > recommendations to the council on 4/26/2002, and > the ordinance > dated > > 6/5/2002, adopted the plan in gave the PB (on > 1/16/2002) except > for > > its acceptions and objections to the > recommendations of the PB, > which > > werre further enumerated. Now pertaining to the > plan, that is it. > > There is no discussion that it was amended from > some date before > > 1/16/2002 (given to PB)to 3/15/2002. That's it. > The only dates are > > 1/16/2002 and 4/26/2002. Where did this 3/15/2002 > plan come from? > That > > is not what the ordinace adopted. It adopted > whatever plan was > given > > to the PB on 16/2002, which certainly could not > have been dated > > 3/15/2002, 2 months later. > > > > Finally, Aaron stated that C-8 must come down and > new footings > > installed. This is total new construction. He lied > by only telling > > half of the truth. Aaron stated that the only > conditions placed on > C-8 > > development in the 3/15/2002 plan was to remove > the garage and > redo > > the facade. He failed to say that the 3/15/2002 > contains a section > > identical to the 6/5/2002 plan which says that if > the developer > > can "finish" the project it can be built to the > existing height. > The > > operative word is "finish." Finish does not mean > demolishing the > > structure, excavating and redoing the footings. > That's a total new > > development. > > > > They are trying to pull a fast one here. It's time > to wake up and > > smell whatever it is they're cooking. Look at the > timing. Last > week > > its confirmed C-8 must come down (which I > predicted). I and others > > point out that if demolished they can rebuild to > existing height, > and > > thus, would want an amendment for which we could > and should get > money. > > I ask for clarification of what could be done on > C-8 site if > > demolished and all of a sudden the city this ain't > the plan. At > best > > it is gross ineptitude, at worse, its criminal. > > > > Like it or not, the council, with the exception of > Keady, won't do > a > > damn thing about this. Apparently, Johnson is > included with the > > majority. These council members are not even > familar with these > > documents. Time for a recall. > > >
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
HERE HERE!!! I AGREE! -al --- dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This is why Jime Keady was voted in. Where are > his comments? > > Jim has taken a break from this forum (shouldn't we > all). Were you > at the council meeting? Jim was the only one on the > council who took > up this issue and was basically asked to SHUT UP by > Ed Johnson. Ed > obviously does not appreciate what this latest trick > represents, or > simply doesn't care. > > Had you been at the meeting, you would have > witnessed something that > should make every citizen irate. Jim Keady, after > they tried to > silence him on the plan issue, brought up the issue > of him being > denied the floor and asked for a point of order from > the city > attorney pursuant to Roberts. The Deputy Mayor, Jim > Bruno, basically > told Keady, you want to play by the rules? Okay, you > will never get > three votes for anything you want on this council. > That is one of > his latest episodes. He has threatened to slap > citizens at meetings, > told them to shut up. I don't care how long he or > his family has > been in this town, or what he has done, he is a > disgrace and > obviously understands little that is brought before > him. He owes his > pension and his allegiance to Weldon. He should not > only be removed > from the council, but should be physically removed > from the chambers. > > > > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Park Tourism Board meeting...
also known as the Chamber of Commerce meeting, will be held this Tuesday, October 11, at noon in the Chamber office. For more information or to RSVP, please call 732-775-7676 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Eminent Domain Victims Good News
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[AsburyPark] Re: group - werner - what the future holds
"the group was formed march 9th, 1999. werner joined 4 years later, march 5th 2003. doesnt make much sence (or is it possiable) that the person who made the group, would join 4 years later." Only in Asbury; see this is the town where "official plans" are adopted before they exist. By acting thus, maximum flexibility is provided the developer to negotiate what he will pay for that which he seeks. The only shortcoming, and it's really a trifling matter, residents never know where they or the future of their city lies; that said, the council and master developer have come up with a novel solution, when asked what the future holds, they lie. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > didnt read the post it happened in, but anyone out there who thinks werner is the group owner, read this. the group was formed march 9th, 1999. werner joined 4 years later, march 5th 2003. doesnt make much sence (or is it possiable) that the person who made the group, would join 4 years later. > > > - > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: group - werner
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > didnt read the post it happened in, but anyone out there who thinks werner is the group owner, read this. the group was formed march 9th, 1999. werner joined 4 years later, march 5th 2003. doesnt make much sence (or is it possiable) that the person who made the group, would join 4 years later. > Charlie I've already clarified this. Read the follow up posts. Thanks for finding the dates. Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] group - werner
didnt read the post it happened in, but anyone out there who thinks werner is the group owner, read this. the group was formed march 9th, 1999. werner joined 4 years later, march 5th 2003. doesnt make much sence (or is it possiable) that the person who made the group, would join 4 years later. Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1474
In a message dated 10/6/2005 5:08:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:51:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Another AP Icon DemolishedWas that property taken by ED or did partners buy it? Allen - The property belongs to Ambassador Dev. LLC, owned by Morris Levy, grandson of Adjmi. Sorry, I don't have verifications on the spellings of these names for you. I originally quoted a source, Dr. Sorge, who said it was owned now by the city and Asbury Partners. That was corrected. The latest update on that story is on the site now. Maureen Speak up - It's America!!Maureen NevinAsbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury Park"88.1FM - "5" Years on the Air!!Asbury's Own Live Talk Show601 Bangs AvenueListen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM orListen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/Call the show 732-775-0821Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1474
Dan, Gary - I put this link on my page where I have a report about the discussion of the plans at last night's meeting. I hope the report makes it easier for those who weren't there to follow this confusing mess. Thanks, it's a big help. Maureen In a message dated 10/6/2005 5:08:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:20:56 - From: "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan - New HomeGary (Lightly) was kind enough to offer space on Asburymusic.com to host the waterfront redevelopment plan. Here is the link. I suggest those interested download the files just in case they put out a hit squad on them.http://www.asburymusic.com/plan/ Speak up - It's America!!Maureen NevinAsbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury Park"88.1FM - "5" Years on the Air!!Asbury's Own Live Talk Show601 Bangs AvenueListen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM orListen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/Call the show 732-775-0821Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Adoption - what has Larry wrought
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >However, if there is no plan was there > closure of the agreement, there has been a transfer of title, but in > the case of the triangle transfer occurred sans consideration. There is no doubt a plan (no pun intended). However, after the debacle of the last few days it is clear that it is liquid to suit the whim of those in power. I typically refrain from making allegations, and I sincerely try to give the benfit of the doubt. I try to dispel consipracy theories, and if a consipracy appears to be a foot, I try to think of it as having the minimal number of persons involved. However, that being said, what can one say about what happened with this plan. To call the city's official explanation half-baked misses the mark. It is insult to our intelligence. You have a plan out in the public for 3 years, widely distributed, that specifically says C-8 can't be rebuilt if demolished. The city pulls the plan and says it is not official on the heels of finding out that C-8 will not only be demolished, but the footings and pilings excavated and replaced. Coincidence? Sounds Fishy if you know what I mean. > > The question that needs asking is whether a valid contract ever > existed, has there occurred a lawful closing and does this profusion > of errors, omissions and stupidity not require reopening the entire > procedure? The valid (I use this loosely) is the redevelopment agreement itself, which was signed by Sanders. I was hoping that it was signed by Weldon. Surely there is an adopted plan, we just don't really know which one. A substantial number of people paid $30 to reeive a copy of the plan, which is now deemed not to be the plan. I suggest they ask the city clerk for a refund. BTW, the checks I beleive were made out to Asbury Partners. How do you like that? city employee was collecting funds for a private entity. You can't make this stuff up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Adoption - what has Larry wrought
" the ordinance adopting the plan is deficient in that it does not, and can not, adopt any Plan other than that which was given to the Planning Board on January 16, 2002. That is what the ordinance adopting the plan says. it did not and could not adopt the March Draft." Absent a plan, what has Larry wrought/I mean bought? There's no doubt council wished to be extremely generous with our ubber developer; who wishes to steal every stone, pick every pocket and destroy every domicile in our fair city. However, if there is no plan was there closure of the agreement, there has been a transfer of title, but in the case of the triangle transfer occurred sans consideration. On the other side of the ledger The Fish acquired lands with strings attached by the city; he has failed to execute any of the fast track projects, which now rest in arrears 18 to 30 months. Thirdly, with both parties erring so consistently, can any of the subsequent developers ever provide good title when the foundation of the overriding agreement if so faulty? The question that needs asking is whether a valid contract ever existed, has there occurred a lawful closing and does this profusion of errors, omissions and stupidity not require reopening the entire procedure? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Plan, as amended from the March 02 Draft, was adopted June 02. > > You are missing the core of what I am saying. Now they say yes, the > adopted plan is the March Draft and the June version is not official. > However, the main difference relating to C-8 between the two drafts is > that the June version is actually more adverse to the developer's > position. They are trying to sell the story that the developer tried to > slip that in. Why? We're not fools, it is obvious that that language > was supposed to, but never made it into the plan. More importantly, the > ordinance adopting the plan is deficient in that it does not, and can > not, adopt any Plan other than that which was given to the Planning > Board on January 16, 2002. That is what the ordinance adopting the plan > says. It may have meant that same plan as amended on subsequent dates, > but that is not what it says and I am afraid that in a legal sense, it > did not and could not adopt the March Draft. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
Title: AOL Email Most definately YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > bruno will eventually step on the wrong toes , or should i say the right > toes, and he will get his just due. Hopefully you will support a recall effort to oust him. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
Title: AOL Email Oh yes, and one more thing, a lot of you were duped into voting them in. Keady is the best thing that happened to the council, now they want to treat him like they did hamilton. They are turning on him because he is not playing their game. They are sitting down now, trying to figure out a way to silence or get rid of him. Keep your eyes open, it's going to get worse. Money and greed will definitely destroy this city again. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
Title: AOL Email bruno will eventually step on the wrong toes , or should i say the right toes, and he will get his just due. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
Title: AOL Email Ed Johnson is just finally showing his true self behind his b.s. smiles SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Why is this City Dysfunctional?
Title: AOL Email that's because we know they are full of b.s.. It gets a tad tedious at times. Bruno is definitely a savage, and they are all working for their own personal gains. Kevin is nothing but a stooge,sitting on the bench as a tie breaker, what kind of mayor is that? They need top do away with the city mgr position and put someone in the mayors spot that REALLY cares about the city. This council is a joke and always has been since i've been here. All the other cities have mayors, this one and about one other city has a city mgr. If everthing else is to grow, why not let the position grow, and get rid of that antiquated city mgr position? SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Adoption
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Plan, as amended from the March 02 Draft, was adopted June 02. You are missing the core of what I am saying. Now they say yes, the adopted plan is the March Draft and the June version is not official. However, the main difference relating to C-8 between the two drafts is that the June version is actually more adverse to the developer's position. They are trying to sell the story that the developer tried to slip that in. Why? We're not fools, it is obvious that that language was supposed to, but never made it into the plan. More importantly, the ordinance adopting the plan is deficient in that it does not, and can not, adopt any Plan other than that which was given to the Planning Board on January 16, 2002. That is what the ordinance adopting the plan says. It may have meant that same plan as amended on subsequent dates, but that is not what it says and I am afraid that in a legal sense, it did not and could not adopt the March Draft. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Message to Blue Bishop
Tom Know anything about the law governing a recall of councilmembers? You can email me off line if you like. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Adoption
"I guess the Council itself doesn't know what it did." Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do; it is for The Fishman to know and order his council do his bidding. This, little children, is why god made Fish, the passive peoples of NJ and a wondrous play land, NJ, where those having sufficient wealth may play. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Plan, as amended from the March 02 Draft, was adopted June 02. > > http://tinyurl.com/cco5p > > I guess the Council itself doesn't know what it did. > > Big surprise ??? > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Why is this City Dysfunctional?
Here's a gem of a quote reported in the media. "At this point, I plan to step outside the continuing debate over whether we did or did not ignore the Planning Board?s report (I certainly don?t think so!) and I hope we can all move on. (Besides it? s time to start ironing a dress for tonight?s council meeting.!) "Thanks for listening, Kate Mellina" -Sounds like Ed Johnson's 'Let's just move on' comment last night. -Sounds like Jim Bruno's 'The train has left the station' comments -Sounds like John Loffredo's 'We made a decision, even if it's not the right one' comments -Sounds like Kevin Sander's 'I don't care what we do, as long as we do something' comments Too bad most folks did not attend all the meetings to hear these and other gems. Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Adoption
The Plan, as amended from the March 02 Draft, was adopted June 02. http://tinyurl.com/cco5p I guess the Council itself doesn't know what it did. Big surprise ??? Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is why Jime Keady was voted in. Where are his comments? Jim has taken a break from this forum (shouldn't we all). Were you at the council meeting? Jim was the only one on the council who took up this issue and was basically asked to SHUT UP by Ed Johnson. Ed obviously does not appreciate what this latest trick represents, or simply doesn't care. Had you been at the meeting, you would have witnessed something that should make every citizen irate. Jim Keady, after they tried to silence him on the plan issue, brought up the issue of him being denied the floor and asked for a point of order from the city attorney pursuant to Roberts. The Deputy Mayor, Jim Bruno, basically told Keady, you want to play by the rules? Okay, you will never get three votes for anything you want on this council. That is one of his latest episodes. He has threatened to slap citizens at meetings, told them to shut up. I don't care how long he or his family has been in this town, or what he has done, he is a disgrace and obviously understands little that is brought before him. He owes his pension and his allegiance to Weldon. He should not only be removed from the council, but should be physically removed from the chambers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
