[AsburyPark] Re: This needs to be fixed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Little League Runs Into More Obstacles by Board I've been working on this for two years and everyone was aware, McKee said. The school board voted that we could go ahead. They're always coming up with more hoops for me to jump through, McKee said. The board, according to McKee, has also asked for information from the Little League. Information sought includes bank statements, how much money is in escrow and who will have a key to the field-house. The board also asked about insurance. I asked about the insurance issues a month ago and received no response, he said. Finally, McKee says, it was determined that the deed governing the land which the field is on would need to be changed in order for the project to be completed. He said that the deed prohibits any structures within 25 feet of the street. Under this rule the fence installed by the school is also illegal, McKee said. The school board wants the league, however, to pay the $300 necessary to change the ordinance, McKee said. If this is a microcosm of what's going on down there then they have serious problems, McKee said. The kids, who everyone is supposed to be working for, are nowhere on the radar. Acting School Superintendent James Parham declined to comment on the situation. I can't talk about that right now, he said. There are some legal issues that need to be addressed. Robert Frank Garrett or any other board member, who reads this, want to comment what is going on, there is always 2 sides to every story please enlighten us, why the 180 swith why is this man jumping thru hoops and being given last minute changes when he is so close to accomplishing something wonderful? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This needs to be fixed
It's the old, Catch 22! Damned if you do, damned if you don't! If you ever want to discourage and beat someone down, this is the way, to do it! Frank, I know where your heart is, Can this be resolved? Why does the little league have to pay to change an ordinance? How long has that field, been there? Someone broke the rules, a long time ago! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Little League Runs Into More Obstacles by Board By TOM CARDINALE The ongoing renovations at the Asbury Park Little League field at Asbury Park High School have run into some new obstacles, according to Little League president Danny McKee. I've been working on this for two years and everyone was aware, McKee said. The school board voted that we could go ahead. McKee says, after meeting with school board member Frank D'Alessandro and the district's Assistant Business Administrator Michael Steinmetz on Mon., Nov. 12 he was told to move forward with the completion of the project. The lighting structures were en route from Iowa and set to be delivered on Nov. 15, he says, when he received a call on Nov. 14 from Aiman Mahmoud, the district's Head Business Administrator, advising him that he would not be able to move forward with the project. Mr. Mahmoud called on Wednesday and said `Stop everything' and I couldn't even store the lights at the field, McKee said. McKee said he believes Mahmoud, who has been a supporter of the project, was acting on instructions from someone from the board. They're always coming up with more hoops for me to jump through, McKee said. The latest issue, according to McKee, is that the board wants a soil test done on the field to ensure the sandy soil can support the lighting structures. However, McKee says that the electrical companies - Lucas Electric and Musko Lighting - have constructed similar lighting towers in far sandier locations. They've installed lights at the bay where they had to wait for the tide to go out to do it, McKee said. McKee says Lucas was aware of the sandy soil throughout the project and has planned ahead for it. He also said he looked into getting a soil test but discovered that it costs nearly $10,000, a cost that would be impossible for the league to afford. If I had $10,000 I'd do the soil test, he said, but I'm on a shoestring as it is. McKee says he hopes to convince the board that the lighting will be safe and secure using testimony from Lucas Electric. Lucas Electric; it warms me how they've handled it, they're storing the lights until it gets resolved, McKee said. The board, according to McKee, has also asked for information from the Little League. Information sought includes bank statements, how much money is in escrow and who will have a key to the field-house. The board also asked about insurance. I asked about the insurance issues a month ago and received no response, he said. Finally, McKee says, it was determined that the deed governing the land which the field is on would need to be changed in order for the project to be completed. He said that the deed prohibits any structures within 25 feet of the street. Under this rule the fence installed by the school is also illegal, McKee said. The school board wants the league, however, to pay the $300 necessary to change the ordinance, McKee said. If this is a microcosm of what's going on down there then they have serious problems, McKee said. The kids, who everyone is supposed to be working for, are nowhere on the radar. Acting School Superintendent James Parham declined to comment on the situation. I can't talk about that right now, he said. There are some legal issues that need to be addressed. McKee says his only choice at this point is to try his best to fulfill their requirements. I could hire an attorney but then what? he said. If I have to hire an attorney that's where I get off. The only reason I haven't given up is because if I do this project will never get done, he said, and everyone who read about it will say same old s different day in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This needs to be fixed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The school board wants the league, however, to pay the $300 necessary to change the ordinance, McKee said. Robert Frank Garrett or any other board member, who reads this, want to comment what is going on, there is always 2 sides to every story please enlighten us, why the 180 swith why is this man jumping thru hoops and being given last minute changes when he is so close to accomplishing something wonderful? I am assured that no obstacles were placed in their way by the City. Agree, there may be two sides to the story but Danny has done a lot and many of us have donated to make this happen. Is it a real insurance issue of the lights posing a danger or a red herring? Unless the powers that be speak up we won't know. Speculation and uncertainty are not a good thing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This needs to be fixed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the old, Catch 22! Damned if you do, damned if you don't! If you ever want to discourage and beat someone down, this is the way, to do it! Frank, I know where your heart is, Can this be resolved? Why does the little league have to pay to change an ordinance? How long has that field, been there? Someone broke the rules, a long time ago! Hi Sharon and Group, Speaking strictly for myself, I'm with Danny McKee on this one. Our law firm (I voted against them) has spent so much money fighting the Little League (they say they are trying to protect us). There are some on board, and they are sincere and good people, who are a lot more cautious than I. But the Board continues to say yes, yes, yes and the lawyers say No, no, no. Instead of using the time and money on productive things, this is what they do, and now the state monitors have gotten into the act. It is a miracle that anything gets accomplished. Even though Danny has already gotten the necessary permits from the city, collected tens of thousands of dollars, and spent countless, uncompensated hours with some of the other parents, he is confronted with new and bigger obstacles at every turn. I'm hoping that there will be some folks at the next BOE meeting (it's at 6:30 at the Bradley Elem. School on 3rd Ave. this coming Wednesday) who will show their support for Danny and the Little League and voice their concerns and displeasure. My yelling at the lawyers seems to have no effect, I'm sorry to say. Frank Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York Times
November 25, 2007 Roads A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle By JILL P. CAPUZZO Wall Township “GO, go, go,” shouted Narendra Khichi from inside his truck parts shop, urging a white sedan that had stopped outside his window in the middle of the traffic circle where Routes 33 and 34 meet. “Go, wherever you want to go, but just go.” This kind of armchair traffic controlling has become a daily source of entertainment and frustration for Mr. Khichi and others affected by this busy route in central Monmouth County who find themselves facing yet another configuration of roads, courtesy of the New Jersey Department of Transportation. The latest design — and one of the new buzzwords in traffic management — is a roundabout. Imported from Europe, this smaller, more simplified version of the loathed traffic circle is gaining popularity among transportation officials not only in New Jersey but also around the country as a way of slowing traffic down and reducing the number of accidents. While not unique to New Jersey, traffic circles — along with another famed New Jersey road design, the jughandle — are the bane of many drivers’ existence. First introduced to the state in 1925, the traffic circle, or rotary, concept was meant to keep traffic flowing by allowing cars to pass through an intersection in a circular motion without stopping. Back then, when roads were less congested and drivers were more polite, it worked. Not so today. Lengthy backups on roads leading into the circles and accidents are commonplace. Over the last several years, the Department of Transportation has been on a mission to eliminate circles statewide, as resources become available, said Erin Phalon, a spokeswoman for the department. Where once there were 44 traffic circles on state roads (and 25 to 30 on county and local roads), now there are just 25 circles on state roads, and several of them are slated for elimination. In some cases, the circle is being straightened out, replaced by a regular intersection with traffic lights, as at Routes 30 and 130 in Collingswood in Camden County, or by an intersection with contiguous jughandles, as at the old Berlin Circle at Routes 30 and 73, also in Camden County. A third alternative — which is generally less costly and involves acquiring less land — has been to transform the circles into roundabouts, which tend to be smaller and with fewer lanes. And here is where a new set of problems begins. “It was the biggest mistake,” said Kristen Van Dunk, a clerk at the Exxon gas station that sits on the Route 33/34 roundabout in Wall. “Now that they’ve changed it, nobody knows who’s supposed to go where and when.” Ms. Van Dunk said she had witnessed numerous accidents since the roundabout opened in June, including a serious one in mid-November after which “the police spent an hour cleaning up glass after a guy was rear-ended.” That accident was caused by a drunken driver, according to Capt. Tim Clayton of the Wall Township Police Department, who said that “no engineering in the world can stop a drunk.” While minor accidents still occur regularly, Captain Clayton said there had been a slight reduction in the overall number of accidents (to 36 from June to September, down from 40 in the same period in 2006) and a drastic drop in severe accidents at the site, which was a primary goal in replacing the circle with a roundabout. Another goal, to improve traffic flow, by all accounts has not been met, with drivers complaining that backups at the circle are worse than before. One problem stems from the fact that the generally unwritten rules governing traffic circles run opposite those governing roundabouts. With roundabouts, those entering are supposed to yield to those already in the roundabout, who have the right-of-way. For traffic circles, the rules are a little more ambiguous, with the advantage going to what is deemed the dominant roadway. The New Jersey Driver Manual published by the Department of Transportation does not do much to clear up the confusion. “There are not set rules for driving into, around and out of a traffic circle in New Jersey,” the manual states. “Common sense and precaution must prevail at all times.” Another hitch is that the modern roundabout is typically a tight, one- lane loop that forces drivers to drop down to 25 miles per hour in the circle. That works well in slowing down traffic on local roads but not so well when the feeder roads are four-lane highways with cars traveling at 50 m.p.h., as is the case in Wall. The road there narrows to one lane through about half the circle. (In a Federal Highway Administration policy paper on roundabouts, published in 2000, the agency suggests that single-lane roundabouts serve areas where the number of daily cars passing through does not exceed 26,000. The Route 33/34
Re: [AsburyPark] A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York T...
In a message dated 11/24/2007 11:11:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle Actually the featured picture of the Routes 33 34 Roundabout in Wall is pretty uncomplicated. _A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/25circlesnj.html?_r=1ref=n yregionspecial2oref=slogin) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
[AsburyPark] Red Bull Dog type spotted
I don't know, if this is the dog you all are looking for or not, but I have never seen this male dog here before. He was definitely dark reddish about 75 - 80 pounds. Ears were choppy, and was being walked by a black male around 5'8 - 5'9 - The dog came over to me and I petted him, and then the guy walked away rather suddenly. This was in Long Branch at 1:40 pm Saturday. KB NEWS AND INFORMATION WITH A UNIQUE TWIST The Brown Report on the Electric News weeknights a 7 est._www.electricnews.com_ (http://www.electricnews.com/) KEVIN BROWN ALSO PUBLISHES _www.njeminentdomainabuse.com_ (http://www.njeminentdomainabuse.com/) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
[AsburyPark] Re: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York T...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/24/2007 11:11:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle Actually the featured picture of the Routes 33 34 Roundabout in Wall is pretty uncomplicated. The problem is NJ drivers;-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Things noticed in MM's offices
In a message dated 11/24/2007 12:19:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Walked by Madison Marquettes offices today... through the windows both in the conference room on the boardwalk and on the side of the building, noticed alot of presentation boards with plans and renderings on them... i'll run down what I saw (it made me feel very optimistic about the future for the boardwalk): I got the same feeling on my visits there for tickets. A beehive of activity; and personable people too. Thanks for the detailed notes **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
RE: [AsburyPark] Red Bull Dog type spotted
Thanks for information, but Maxie is a female and she only weighs at the most 50lbs, but please still keep an eye out for her. Regards, Anthony _ From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:00 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Red Bull Dog type spotted I don't know, if this is the dog you all are looking for or not, but I have never seen this male dog here before. He was definitely dark reddish about 75 - 80 pounds. Ears were choppy, and was being walked by a black male around 5'8 - 5'9 - The dog came over to me and I petted him, and then the guy walked away rather suddenly. This was in Long Branch at 1:40 pm Saturday. KB NEWS AND INFORMATION WITH A UNIQUE TWIST The Brown Report on the Electric News weeknights a 7 est.www.electricnews. http://www.electricnews.com/ com KEVIN BROWN ALSO PUBLISHES www.njeminentdomain http://www.njeminentdomainabuse.com/ abuse.com _ Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301 products and top http://money.aol.com/top5/general/ways-you-are-wasting-money?NCID=aoltop000 302 money wasters of 2007.
