[AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
Shame on me, huh, Jack? Yep... 10 years (9 according to the neighbor) that lot next to The Empress was a mess. I have no clue whether it was my own following up which gt it cleaned out or whether it was an amazing coincidence, I am not sure that either you nor Brian even have a coincidence. Have either of you TRIED to make change in Asbury Park? I hear a hint here and a hint there... Seeing as I do not live there, I quite possibly am not privy to these attempts of change. Yep, it will probably be a parking lot as historically, it always has been. Jack, if you think that I come to AP and don't think that I see the same things that you see, you are wrong. Yes, I do not live there. I was an annoying advocate of change with that Empress lot and none of us will ever know if I had anything to to with the cleanup, but it's clean. I do know one thing, logging into this group and bitching and complaining to cyberspace accomplishes absolutely nothing. You can point your finger at me and berate me for calling someone out, but I DID SOMETHING, I ACTED. I'm probably on the City's list of assholes, but please inform me of my list mates, who else has acted? Honestly, I am losing interest in AP, sad that. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Wow! First off, Brian lives in this town just like I do, and we see every fucking day what a mess has been made of this city. After what, a decade or more the lot behind the Empress has been cleared. And tell me this, what will it become? A parking lot? Where's the plan for it's future? I'd be willing to bet it becomes a parking lot. Barf. I've lived here for nearly 6 years, and as I approach the age of 50, I can honestly say AP has been part of my entire life. I live in a graveyard of destruction, and it goes on and on and on. I don't see anything with rose colored glasses, and Brian is right on the money, and shame on you Glenn for calling him out. He see's exactly the same thing I see. We have a weak local government. It's pathetic. Powerless. Zero balls whatsoever. The local rose colored glass wearing public is in total denial. Sure, progress has been made, but we are accepting marginal development as if it's the greatest thing ever. Total bullshit. I look out my living room window, and I see destruction. This city is a microcosm of a plague that affects much of the USA...homogenization and a total lack or care or respect to a cultural history. It's pathetic. Tear it down, and replace it with crap. I'm sorry, but I will not waver from my opinion that the boardwalk we now have is nothing more than a soulless strip mall. It will forever be inhabited by a rotating cast of characters that will never take hold, because they lack uniqueness and a sense of place. Once upon a time, there was a thing called architecture, and right now in the City of Asbury Park, it's being mocked. There is zero continuity. It's a mismatch of conflicting styles punctuated by acre upon acre of empty lots. Masterplan my ass. Our so called Historical society is a piece of ineffective crap. We have a historic Carousel House that contains the most dubious piece of garbage Xmas display ever. It's a joke. Here's a thought, put a Carousel in there. The Paramount is dark how many days a year? It's a theater, but it's empty more than anything. Finally, just in case anybody isn't paying attention, the Arthur Pryor Band Shell is done. Never, ever coming back. The roof is falling apart, and I'd be willing to bet everything I have that it will never be put back to what it was...something great. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: Brian, this is a City administration, not a town your first clue should have been the title City of Asbury Park. Before I comment on your Ceremonial statement, I would like to ask you what YOU have done to make a difference in the City of Asbury Park. You complain a lot, I got that. You brag a lot about your military service. I got that too. (those two coupled have earned you the moniker Captain McBragg by the way. When, exactly, does Captain McBragg take action in the City of Asbury Park? I do net see the Council as Ceremonial as I personally worked with the Council to get the lot next to The Empress cleared out. That lot has been cleared. I don't even live in Asbury Park. What have YOU done, Brian? Should Maureen be doing it FOR you? Should I do it? If you see this as a generalization of AP residents, then possibly, Captain McBragg should become Captain Action. I have fixed what I can, I don't LIVE within that City. Quite possibly, we have reached the time for you to stop bitching and take action. DO SOMETHING! Maureen is doing something... do you think she should save YOUR ass too? Wake up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
[AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
Glenn, It's great that the Empress lot got cleaned up, but are you aware of what they did with it? They just moved it a few blocks away and made it somebody else's eyesore. Sure, it's a solution, but it seemed hasty and not so well thought out. We all have our causes here. Years ago, mine was exactly the same thing, clean up that lot and the many others, and I went to many a council meeting. Earlier this year, I helped lead a group to try and shut down an attempt to remove live music from Cookman and the surrounding area, and we succeeded in preserving that, and we lent support to bringing the Upstage back. Coincidentally, at one of those meetings, Loffredo made the absurd suggestion to move the Empress lot across the street. Audible laughter rang out across the room. And what about the bigger picture? It's now another empty lot, but has there been any mention of a plan on what to do with it? My gut feeling is they'll take the easy way out and make a parking lot. Can something better be done? Absolutely, but where's the plan? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawpr...@... wrote: Shame on me, huh, Jack? Yep... 10 years (9 according to the neighbor) that lot next to The Empress was a mess. I have no clue whether it was my own following up which gt it cleaned out or whether it was an amazing coincidence, I am not sure that either you nor Brian even have a coincidence. Have either of you TRIED to make change in Asbury Park? I hear a hint here and a hint there... Seeing as I do not live there, I quite possibly am not privy to these attempts of change. Yep, it will probably be a parking lot as historically, it always has been. Jack, if you think that I come to AP and don't think that I see the same things that you see, you are wrong. Yes, I do not live there. I was an annoying advocate of change with that Empress lot and none of us will ever know if I had anything to to with the cleanup, but it's clean. I do know one thing, logging into this group and bitching and complaining to cyberspace accomplishes absolutely nothing. You can point your finger at me and berate me for calling someone out, but I DID SOMETHING, I ACTED. I'm probably on the City's list of assholes, but please inform me of my list mates, who else has acted? Honestly, I am losing interest in AP, sad that. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Wow! First off, Brian lives in this town just like I do, and we see every fucking day what a mess has been made of this city. After what, a decade or more the lot behind the Empress has been cleared. And tell me this, what will it become? A parking lot? Where's the plan for it's future? I'd be willing to bet it becomes a parking lot. Barf. I've lived here for nearly 6 years, and as I approach the age of 50, I can honestly say AP has been part of my entire life. I live in a graveyard of destruction, and it goes on and on and on. I don't see anything with rose colored glasses, and Brian is right on the money, and shame on you Glenn for calling him out. He see's exactly the same thing I see. We have a weak local government. It's pathetic. Powerless. Zero balls whatsoever. The local rose colored glass wearing public is in total denial. Sure, progress has been made, but we are accepting marginal development as if it's the greatest thing ever. Total bullshit. I look out my living room window, and I see destruction. This city is a microcosm of a plague that affects much of the USA...homogenization and a total lack or care or respect to a cultural history. It's pathetic. Tear it down, and replace it with crap. I'm sorry, but I will not waver from my opinion that the boardwalk we now have is nothing more than a soulless strip mall. It will forever be inhabited by a rotating cast of characters that will never take hold, because they lack uniqueness and a sense of place. Once upon a time, there was a thing called architecture, and right now in the City of Asbury Park, it's being mocked. There is zero continuity. It's a mismatch of conflicting styles punctuated by acre upon acre of empty lots. Masterplan my ass. Our so called Historical society is a piece of ineffective crap. We have a historic Carousel House that contains the most dubious piece of garbage Xmas display ever. It's a joke. Here's a thought, put a Carousel in there. The Paramount is dark how many days a year? It's a theater, but it's empty more than anything. Finally, just in case anybody isn't paying attention, the Arthur Pryor Band Shell is done. Never, ever coming back. The roof is falling apart, and I'd be willing to bet everything I have that it will never be put back to what it was...something great. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: Brian, this is a City administration, not a town your
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
Glenn I'm not going to sit her and give you a list of my accomplishments in fighting the city for change. Have I acted? Damn Straight..Is there more I can do? Probably, actually definitely, but i have learned, from both personal experience, and from the experience of others, that i need to pick and choose my battles very very carefully. Have YOU personally ever dealt with getting building permits for your home in AP? Or had the inspectors come into your home in AP? (no you havent) These are just two small reasons why i pick and choose very carefully what i want to voice my opinions about at the Council Meetings (in which i attend regularly) Though most of what i've done to help with change does NOT involve the redevelopment of the Waterfront, i did take my happy ass out ON FOOT to the Southwest Section of the city, (as well as the Northwest side) with a clipboard and a petition to help STOP CHANGE, and that change was the removal of our trees downtown, it was a lost cause but i still put in the time to walk around some unsafe streets (sans my dog), to obtain a few hundred signatures. While doing this, i opened MANY residents eyes to events/situations taking place within the city government that they were previously unaware of. I've also helped two HS Students from making the horrible decision of slinging dope on the corners for one of the local sects. Now i'm not taking 100% of the credit for this, but i did help with their school work, take them places, write letters to colleges for them etc etc. One is currently attending Montclair State and the other is hopefully heading to Wagner this year, so i changed (or helped change) the direction of our cities youth, albeit 1 at a time. This past summer i also brought Elements skateboard company into the city to film one of their videos. Granted only 12 minutes of footage made it into the final video, but there is still that Asbury Park, NJ at the bottom of the video, so add some free promotion for the city as well I've bought property in the city, i pay my taxes, and i'm currently working on bringing a MUCH needed business into the city this Janaury (again this is where the permits and inspectors also become an an issue) so i'd appreciate in the future, before you step on your soapbox again accusing me of doing nothing, ASK FIRST oh and thanks for having that shit removed from behind the Empress, but now my Aunt sees it everyday from her apartment, could you possibly get it removed from there and actually have it put to use? Or is moving an eyesore from one lot to another ok because you dont frequent that end of Kingsley? Now before i got back to work, in regards to the city council, the city (and Maureen please correct me here because i may be off a bit) is run under Municipality Manager Law, i think this was instilled as a law in the late 1800's in NJ. Anyhow, under this law, the council has very little power, typically they have ZERO Executive responsibility, they generally sit over council meetings and thats it. They make NO EXECUTIVE decisions when it comes to the town or city, this is why there is a City Manager in these types of municipalities. Cordially brian On 14 December 2010 04:19, dapawprint dapawpr...@yahoo.com wrote: Shame on me, huh, Jack? Yep... 10 years (9 according to the neighbor) that lot next to The Empress was a mess. I have no clue whether it was my own following up which gt it cleaned out or whether it was an amazing coincidence, I am not sure that either you nor Brian even have a coincidence. Have either of you TRIED to make change in Asbury Park? I hear a hint here and a hint there... Seeing as I do not live there, I quite possibly am not privy to these attempts of change. Yep, it will probably be a parking lot as historically, it always has been. Jack, if you think that I come to AP and don't think that I see the same things that you see, you are wrong. Yes, I do not live there. I was an annoying advocate of change with that Empress lot and none of us will ever know if I had anything to to with the cleanup, but it's clean. I do know one thing, logging into this group and bitching and complaining to cyberspace accomplishes absolutely nothing. You can point your finger at me and berate me for calling someone out, but I DID SOMETHING, I ACTED. I'm probably on the City's list of assholes, but please inform me of my list mates, who else has acted? Honestly, I am losing interest in AP, sad that. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Wow! First off, Brian lives in this town just like I do, and we see every fucking day what a mess has been made of this city. After what, a decade or more the lot behind the Empress has been cleared. And tell me this, what will it become? A parking lot? Where's the plan for it's future? I'd be willing to bet it becomes a parking lot. Barf. I've lived here for nearly 6 years, and as I
[AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
Brian forgot to take a another bow for being in the armed forces... he deserves to be branded whatever he earned. Since jack and I nearing aarp membership, we can probably recalling being REQUIRED to sign up for a possible draft around 1979. I reluctantly went with my buds - and said something stupid - like if you go, I'm with you... Well good thing we never HAD to go (or make the decision to go if selected). I had my father's french tapes out and was trying to learn french. Would I freeze in canada or find some nice warm island and open up my hamburger there instead of AP??? Today, I tell my son and have told him what my dad told me - you have to read, be smart - you DON'T want to be on the front line. To you want to be some number on the news (maybe if they even bother)?? I've watched a few kids who have hung around my daughter and now son - get recruited. One kid joined the navy to become a helicopter mechanic - he succeeded. he thought the navy -on a boat being the same nut he was here. Well, he got all his training in the desert - where he still is. I would never knock anyone that served. Better yet, kiss their ass. While I'm going on, I met a very nice group of people in AP over the past 2 weeks. The Tabernacle Church 1325 Asbury Ave. Little place, with a ton of spirit. I'm tryiong to figure out how to help them. While they are looking to move into larger quarters - they will need additional $. They offer a kitchen, food pantry and other services to help those less fortunate. They want to help people get jobs, training and more. So sure you going to say. Hoe many of these are needed in AP? I don't know. But I do know is that as I sat amongst boxes of food talking and thinking what's wrong in the world?? As I opened the door, I looked at what I was driving. Then realied my kids are off on a vacation. The sign on the door stated something like you must show the need... you cannot sell what you receive... The next day - I swung by my house for lunch which I rarely do and to get my pc...whihc I forgot. Then I decided I'd go get a slice of pizza..then I turned back around and went back to my house and figured why waste money...while I was getting my lunch ready, I heard water running - real fast. I realized - the sprinklers never got shut off. Sure enough, my basement was filling up with water. So I guess If I hadn't thought about helping that church on asbury ave, my house would of floated away. Now I have to act. Don't forget. these people aren't oprah or buffet grandstanding. To me, they have all the heart and will to help. Asbury Park is far far perfect - if such a place exists. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
So, are you turning 50 next year too? It's interesting to see how the tone of life changes over the decades. This former punk/metal guitarist is now a closet Top Chef... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: Brian forgot to take a another bow for being in the armed forces... he deserves to be branded whatever he earned. Since jack and I nearing aarp membership, we can probably recalling being REQUIRED to sign up for a possible draft around 1979. I reluctantly went with my buds - and said something stupid - like if you go, I'm with you... Well good thing we never HAD to go (or make the decision to go if selected). I had my father's french tapes out and was trying to learn french. Would I freeze in canada or find some nice warm island and open up my hamburger there instead of AP??? Today, I tell my son and have told him what my dad told me - you have to read, be smart - you DON'T want to be on the front line. To you want to be some number on the news (maybe if they even bother)?? I've watched a few kids who have hung around my daughter and now son - get recruited. One kid joined the navy to become a helicopter mechanic - he succeeded. he thought the navy -on a boat being the same nut he was here. Well, he got all his training in the desert - where he still is. I would never knock anyone that served. Better yet, kiss their ass. While I'm going on, I met a very nice group of people in AP over the past 2 weeks. The Tabernacle Church 1325 Asbury Ave. Little place, with a ton of spirit. I'm tryiong to figure out how to help them. While they are looking to move into larger quarters - they will need additional $. They offer a kitchen, food pantry and other services to help those less fortunate. They want to help people get jobs, training and more. So sure you going to say. Hoe many of these are needed in AP? I don't know. But I do know is that as I sat amongst boxes of food talking and thinking what's wrong in the world?? As I opened the door, I looked at what I was driving. Then realied my kids are off on a vacation. The sign on the door stated something like you must show the need... you cannot sell what you receive... The next day - I swung by my house for lunch which I rarely do and to get my pc...whihc I forgot. Then I decided I'd go get a slice of pizza..then I turned back around and went back to my house and figured why waste money...while I was getting my lunch ready, I heard water running - real fast. I realized - the sprinklers never got shut off. Sure enough, my basement was filling up with water. So I guess If I hadn't thought about helping that church on asbury ave, my house would of floated away. Now I have to act. Don't forget. these people aren't oprah or buffet grandstanding. To me, they have all the heart and will to help. Asbury Park is far far perfect - if such a place exists. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: So, are you turning 50 next year too? It's interesting to see how the tone of life changes over the decades. June. someday, when I'm 50, just wait My mother-in-law moved to The Villages in central nowhere land in florida. Check it out. thevillages.com Real scary place. But those living there, love it (or so they say). It is, and has been, one of the fastest growing markets in the US. We were down a few weeks ago - George W stopped by to sign his book. Golf carts, garage sales, cheap beer and so much more. every fast food place everything and anything you need - except the ocean. AP should model itself on this. The developer controls the media - paper and radio. The developer controls everything and the place is spotless. To 50 we go if my kids,dog or wife don't kill me first. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: City declares Istar in default.....in APP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: June. someday, when I'm 50, just wait Babies Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] happening at plan b
Restaurant Plan B 705 Cookman Ave. Asbury Park, New Jersey 732-807-4710 www.restaurantplanbap.com December 14, 2010 Dear Friends and Family, I cannot believe how fast time is flying, or how cold is actually is today. Asbury Park is going through a big transformation. We have had a large number of businesses close up. On the surface it is rather disheartening, that business could not hold on through the holidays. On the up side, the 500 block is going through major renovation, the streets and sidewalks have been re-done. Hopefully we will get street lighting and signage to better help the navigation of downtown. There is a big music initiative in town that should bring many new potential customers to town. I am looking forward to the continued developments. Be sure to check out the cities website for more information. www.cityofasburypark.com. During this difficult economic time is up to us to support the local businesses as much as we can, pass on the information to our friends who have not had the Asbury Park experience. We have a new chamber of commerce board and hopefully they will be able to bring some fresh ideas to help promote what is an amazing city. As for Plan B We are going to be open CHRISTMAS EVE and CHRISTMAS DAY. (Christmas day we will open at 3pmand I will be doing the cooking) New Year's Eve is around the corner and we will be having a 5 course dinner, Live Music, Champagne Toast for 75.00. Reservations from 6:30-10:30pm. NO SEATINGS COME WHEN YOU WANT. As always our PRIX FIXE Tuesday-Thursday 25.00 for a 4 course dinner. Thursday's Dinner and a Movie with The Showroom. And don't forget BRUNCH SUNDAYS. Our menu offers great VEGAN and GLUTEN FREE options. Please remember to SHOP...DINE...STAY...EXPERIENCE Asbury Park often Jeffrey Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] TONY CLIFTON, at your service...
This Friday only, Tony Clifton will be tending bar at the Voodoo Lounge, upstairs at Trinity The Pope. Tony drinks a mean drink, and we'll just have to see how he pours 'em. Come let off some Holiday steam with Tony --and who knows, he may even sit in and do a tune with the band! Hope to see you Friday after 8pm Carl Chesna Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
