[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't the ESP shut down this month last year? Has anybody heard any updates about it fate, or plans to restart building? It's starting to be a real slap in the cities face that there's another derelict structure on the same exact location as the last one. = What about the indignation expressed by the City Council at that time? Demanding an accounting of their financial information as I recall. Giving deadlines for a response, making a big show of it in the media. So, where is the info? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
I believe the city came to an agreement with Metro. Payment for the City attorney fees and a new timeline was decided. I can't find the info but Dec 2008 or Jan 2009 sticks in my head for Metro to submit a new plan. From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 3:18:43 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 21 year later Perhaps the ESP could be repurposed into being an urban paintball game, with a special area similar to Shoot the Geek in Pt. Pleasant, but in the AP version, the geek could be wearing a Dean Geibel mask. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, cwpvt cwpvt@ wrote: It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? = = = = === == It would actually be better to include the Esperanza site in the parking discussion. The part that is built is the proposed parking levels. It could be finished as such rather easily forming the base of a future tower expansion should the economy warrant. The City could exercise Eminent Domain, take the site, make it public property and then lease the rights to operate it as Parking with some commercial uses perhaps. Thank you for the thought, I see myself in your post Several terms come to mind: - Selective Enforcement - Malicious Prosecution I've been photo documenting various sites for years. It's clear that there is some 'Personalizing' going on. Werner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
The sad fact is that it is virtually impossible to get a loan to do almost anything at the current time for even the most creditworthy of borrowers. Real Estate is on the lower end of the health spectrum at the moment. I have no specific knowledge here but my guess is that this project is going nowhere for a while until the health of the lending market improves considerably. So the update would be that it is in limbo for quite some time. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't the ESP shut down this month last year? Has anybody heard any updates about it fate, or plans to restart building? It's starting to be a real slap in the cities face that there's another derelict structure on the same exact location as the last one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad fact is that it is virtually impossible to get a loan to do almost anything at the current time for even the most creditworthy of borrowers. Real Estate is on the lower end of the health spectrum at the moment. I have no specific knowledge here but my guess is that this project is going nowhere for a while until the health of the lending market improves considerably. So the update would be that it is in limbo for quite some time. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Didn't the ESP shut down this month last year? Has anybody heard any updates about it fate, or plans to restart building? It's starting to be a real slap in the cities face that there's another derelict structure on the same exact location as the last one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cwpvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? = It would actually be better to include the Esperanza site in the parking discussion. The part that is built is the proposed parking levels. It could be finished as such rather easily forming the base of a future tower expansion should the economy warrant. The City could exercise Eminent Domain, take the site, make it public property and then lease the rights to operate it as Parking with some commercial uses perhaps. Thank you for the thought, I see myself in your post Several terms come to mind: - Selective Enforcement - Malicious Prosecution I've been photo documenting various sites for years. It's clear that there is some 'Personalizing' going on. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
Perhaps the ESP could be repurposed into being an urban paintball game, with a special area similar to Shoot the Geek in Pt. Pleasant, but in the AP version, the geek could be wearing a Dean Geibel mask. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cwpvt cwpvt@ wrote: It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? === == It would actually be better to include the Esperanza site in the parking discussion. The part that is built is the proposed parking levels. It could be finished as such rather easily forming the base of a future tower expansion should the economy warrant. The City could exercise Eminent Domain, take the site, make it public property and then lease the rights to operate it as Parking with some commercial uses perhaps. Thank you for the thought, I see myself in your post Several terms come to mind: - Selective Enforcement - Malicious Prosecution I've been photo documenting various sites for years. It's clear that there is some 'Personalizing' going on. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
