[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady Inconvenient Truth(s) Nero Sleeps While Rome Burns

2006-11-03 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I disagree.  He should not have given out that number unless there 
are facts to back up.  The town is too small in size and 200 would 
represent a rather large percentage meaning that gang crime is out 
of control.  People have risked everything to create businesses, fix 
homes etc.  This do-gooder must realize his words can cause damage.  

Maybe he has the back up? What does the number have to rise to 
before someone says something? It's not like it is news.

Legislators take steps to combat gangs
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 05/19/06
BY TOM BALDWIN
GANNETT STATE BUREAU

TRENTON — Lawmakers stepped up the war on street gangs Thursday, 
advancing a raft of measures they hope might restore calm.

One in particular said gangland defendants had to prove bail money 
comes from legitimate sources, erasing the oft-repeated parlay in 
which a gang member bails out another with cash — of uncertain 
sources — stuffed into a brown paper bag.

The steps also include special gun courts, shielding the identities 
of victims and lawyers and confiscating vehicles of people nabbed 
with illegal weapons.

Where there's drugs, there's gangs, said Assemblyman Peter Barnes, 
D-Middlesex, chairman of the Assembly Law and Public Safety 
Committee.

Barnes sat in front of a state map that showed gang presence 
spreading across the state from urban centers to suburbs in 
Monmouth, Camden and Middlesex counties, across the Interstate 78 
corridor to Warren County and in pockets around southern New Jersey.

Heck, they're in Princeton, said Assemblyman Reed Gusciora, D-
Mercer.

It is a package of triage legislation, said Assemblywoman Bonnie 
Watson Coleman, D-Mercer, where late-March gang battles on Trenton 
streets killed six people, including a 7-year-old girl and two 
bystanders, all in a 24-hour period.

First Assistant Attorney General Anne Milgram urged passage of the 
package, saying all major violent gangs are present in New Jersey, 
from South Jersey bikers to West Coast street groups that have 
expanded east.

She mentioned gangs in Asbury Park, Lakewood, Camden, Vineland and 
Trenton.




 
 I am sure gangs exist but 200 members?  Well organized?  If that 
was the case then he should show his facts.  I don't think people 
have a problem with him saying that gang members reside in town.  It 
is when he goes on a new broadcast and starts ramblining numbers.  
Why? So he can show he is going to save the town with basketball 
programs?  More homeless shelters?  Rent control?  All his 
intentions are good just not for ocean front property.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 9:42:13 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady  Inconvenient Truth(s)
 
 This whole thing against Jim Keady is bullshit.
 Attacking him because of the 200 Bloods comment is ridiculous. It 
may not be the exact 
 number, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were that many 
of them in our town. The 
 sick thing about all of this is that he's basically being asked to 
not tell the truth...hush 
 hush, don't let the outside world know what a scary place AP is.
 What a joke. Just disgusting.
 And this is coming from Debbie at the Wonderbar... claiming it 
hurt their business and it'll 
 prevent new biz from coming our way. Give me a break. Asburys 
legacy of neglect, crime, 
 drugs etc. are the problem, not Jim Keady.
 And speaking of the Wonder Bar...I worked there one night this 
past summer. Most 
 unfriendly place i've ever been to. Debbie wasn't nice at all to 
me, and neither was the rest 
 of the staff. Only nice person there was a bouncer. 
 Unfriendly places keep me away.
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, MarioAPNJ@ . wrote:
 
  
  In reference to NJ Dave'scomment: 
  
  
  Keady's campaign included gathering information and listening to 
the 
  thoughts and concerns of the people of Asbury Park. Door by 
door. 
  Apparently, those people liked what he stood for enough to get 
him 
  elected. 
  
  
  
  
  
  As Jim knows and as I've said here before, I did not vote for 
Jim in the 
  last election.
  
  The tactics being used against him in recent months are so 
contemptible to 
  me that I've already started to reevaluate my voting criteria.
  
  e.g.: Asking him to read the letter from the UEZ. And 
especially, if 
  true, the reports here that it was done with malicious glee. And 
then there are 
  the commie and assassination accusation!
  
  Tommy used Shakespeare to introduce yesterday's column. He 
should look up 
  what Hamlet meant when he said: For 'tis the sport to have the 
engineer / 
  Hoist with his own petard; and 't shall go hard.
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady Inconvenient Truth(s) Nero Sleeps While Rome Burns

2006-11-03 Thread Allan Peterson


All he has to do is say where he is getting that information from
- Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, November 3, 2006 1:05:20 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady  Inconvenient Truth(s) Nero Sleeps While Rome Burns

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote: I disagree. He should not have given out that number unless there are facts to back up. The town is too small in size and 200 would represent a rather large percentage meaning that gang crime is out of control. People have risked everything to create businesses, fix homes etc. This do-gooder must realize his words can cause damage. Maybe he has the back up? What does the number have to rise to before someone says something? It's not like it is news.Legislators take steps to combat gangsPosted by the Asbury Park Press on 05/19/06BY TOM BALDWINGANNETT STATE BUREAUTRENTON — Lawmakers stepped up the war on street gangs Thursday, advancing a raft of measures they hope might restore calm.One in particular said gangland defendants
 had to prove bail money comes from legitimate sources, erasing the oft-repeated parlay in which a gang member bails out another with cash — of uncertain sources — stuffed into a brown paper bag.The steps also include special gun courts, shielding the identities of victims and lawyers and confiscating vehicles of people nabbed with illegal weapons."Where there's drugs, there's gangs," said Assemblyman Peter Barnes, D-Middlesex, chairman of the Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee.Barnes sat in front of a state map that showed gang presence spreading across the state from urban centers to suburbs in Monmouth, Camden and Middlesex counties, across the Interstate 78 corridor to Warren County and in pockets around southern New Jersey."Heck, they're in Princeton," said Assemblyman Reed Gusciora, D-Mercer."It is a package of triage legislation, " said Assemblywoman Bonnie Watson
 Coleman, D-Mercer, where late-March gang battles on Trenton streets killed six people, including a 7-year-old girl and two bystanders, all in a 24-hour period.First Assistant Attorney General Anne Milgram urged passage of the package, saying all major violent gangs are present in New Jersey, from South Jersey bikers to West Coast street groups that have expanded east.She mentioned gangs in Asbury Park, Lakewood, Camden, Vineland and Trenton.  I am sure gangs exist but 200 members? Well organized? If that was the case then he should show his facts. I don't think people have a problem with him saying that gang members reside in town. It is when he goes on a new broadcast and starts ramblining numbers. Why? So he can show he is going to save the town with basketball programs? More homeless shelters? Rent control? All his intentions are good just not for ocean front property. 
   - Original Message  From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 9:42:13 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady  Inconvenient Truth(s)  This whole thing against Jim Keady is bullshit. Attacking him because of the 200 Bloods comment is ridiculous. It may not be the exact  number, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were that many of them in our town. The  sick thing about all of this is that he's basically being asked to not tell the truth...hush  hush, don't let the outside world know what a scary place AP is. What a joke. Just disgusting. And this is coming from Debbie at the Wonderbar... claiming it hurt their business and it'll  prevent new biz from coming our way. Give me a break.
 Asburys legacy of neglect, crime,  drugs etc. are the problem, not Jim Keady. And speaking of the Wonder Bar...I worked there one night this past summer. Most  unfriendly place i've ever been to. Debbie wasn't nice at all to me, and neither was the rest  of the staff. Only nice person there was a bouncer.  Unfriendly places keep me away.  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, MarioAPNJ@ . wrote: In reference to NJ Dave'scomment:   Keady's campaign included gathering information and listening to the   thoughts and concerns of the people of Asbury Park. Door by door.   Apparently, those people liked what he stood for enough to get him   elected. As Jim knows and as I've said here before, I did not vote
 for Jim in the   last election.The tactics being used against him in recent months are so contemptible to   me that I've already started to reevaluate my voting criteria.e.g.: Asking him to read the letter from the UEZ. And especially, if   true, the reports here that it was done with malicious glee. And then there are   the "commie" and assassination accusation!Tommy used Shakespeare to introduce yesterday's column. He should look up   what Hamlet meant when he said: "For 'tis the sport to have the engineer /   Hoist with his own petard; and 't shall go hard."  =