[AsburyPark] Re: Start over or amend?

2005-08-22 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I don't think Asbury Partners or their supporters need to wage 
 a disinformation campaign when the people opposing them are being 
 so contradictory.

I don't think we are contradictory, it's just free thinking. I 
understand your post is a constructive criticisms and I will take it 
as that. Quite frankly, I guess most of us do not like the plan as 
written and see Asbury Partners for what it is, and wish both would 
just go away and we could get something/someone better. However, we 
realize that that is not going to happen and thus, instead of 
contradicting ourselves, we understand that there must be a compromise 
if anything. Thus, the partial retreat. The posts here are not offical 
communiques from the underground, and in essence, have amounted to our 
collective mental masturbation (don't start picketing me Tom). I 
thought our message was clear during the pre-election period, but 
obviously not clear enough or what people wanted to hear. I don't think 
Asbury Partners could mount a disinformation campaign if it wanted to, 
unless it is disinformation about what it means to do with our 
waterfront. Disinformation is part of the government culture here.





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Start over or amend?

2005-08-22 Thread Sharon G. Boone


So do you mean, that Asbury Partners has a "George Bush", mentality? My way or the highway? "Stay the course", type of thing? This will only incite the citizens here, as Cindy Sheehan started her protest of "one" and it snowballed! One Mother protesting the senseless death of HER son, but Mr. Bush stated, "he died for a Noble Cause"! Thus, "Operation Noble Cause" and "Arlington South", has taken off. Just a comparison in contrast, off subject a bit, to compare the way Asbury Partners want to "dumb down" the citizens here, in our fair city! What a shame! What's their point? I'll tell you; to Bamboozle us is what! Smoke and mirrors won't do!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Idon'tthinkAsburyPartnersortheirsupportersneedtowagea"disinformationcampaign"whenthepeopleopposingthemarebeingsocontradictory.Idon'tthink"we"arecontradictory,it'sjustfreethinking.Iunderstandyourpostisa"constructive"criticismsandIwilltakeitasthat.Quitefrankly,Iguessmostof"us"donotliketheplanaswrittenandseeAsburyPartnersforwhatitis,andwishbothwouldjustgoawayandwecouldgetsomething/someonebetter.However,werealizethatthatisnotgoingtohappenandthus,insteadofcontradictingourselves,weunderstandthattheremustbeacompromiseifanything.Thus,thepartialretreat.Thepostsherearenotofficalcommuniquesfromtheunderground,andinessence,haveamountedtoourcollectivementalmasturbation(don'tstartpicketingmeTom).Ithought"our"messagewasclearduringthepre-electionperiod,butobviouslynotclearenoughorwhatpeoplewantedtohear.Idon'tthinkAsburyPartnerscouldmountadisinformationcampaignifitwantedto,unlessitisdisinformationaboutwhatitmeanstodowithourwaterfront.Disinformationispartofthegovernmentculturehere.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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