Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The plan needs

2008-01-16 Thread Allan Peterson
Who is the we?  I keep seeing WE and US.   


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Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The plan needs

I forgot to mention the Wonder Bar and my glee to see that it's coming back in 
my 2 cents posted on Asbury Radio. Like to get your feedback. This is basically 
what I posted:
Motolla's Plans Stir Hope  Questions
 
The president and financial head of Madison Marquette Investments, Gary Motolla 
, must have mined every big name in the area over the past few months to put 
together his star-studded cast for the boardwalk's revival. 
 
We don't see any clunkers among the names we recognized, but are saddened not 
to see Eddie Gaspar 's restaurant in the First Avenue Pavilion  (formerly The 
Tides) missing from the press release and news report. Maybe we missed it.
 
We'd like to see more transparency in these announcements and plans. The 
announcement yesterday was termed a “press conference”, but we didn't get the 
feeling there were a lot of press questions answered, from the report by Nancy 
Shields in the APP, and we don't see anything in the Star-Ledger today. Channel 
12 had a report last night, which seemed pretty much a replay of the press 
release with some local shots of the boardwalk.
 
What's nagging at us -- 
We agree wholeheartedly with Mottola that the city can't come back without a 
concerted effort to stimulate all its facets, including things seemingly as 
diverse as the downtown business district and our educational system. Mottola's 
willingness to take on the residential developments, since Charles -- tear down 
that old historic carousel house, it's in my way -- Kushner decided to dump 
Wesley Lake and run is wise, too. How can you say come and have a great time 
when those empty windows are gaping at tourists like so many open mouths? But 
what about the impossible deal Asbury Partners left hanging in the air, which 
amounts to tentacles that remain in the project long after the property deed is 
signed over?
 
We're talking about, in addition to the per unit development rights of about 
$100k per, the 7% piece on the sale of every unit, and $20,000 per unit for the 
infrastructure improvement reimbursement, and the Partners’ retention of all 
commercial rights on the sites. This is the piece of the story that never gets 
discussed. When we’ve brought it up, we’re quickly hushed up.
 
This is why the developers have been trying to achieve mission impossible - 
build quality units with skilled labor with the best materials, and sell at 
market rates, while giving the Partners their share -- and ride out a 
Recession, and a credit and real estate Crash. No wonder it caved in.
 
In the Press, Hugh Lamle , of  MD Sass, a partner in Asbury Partners, hinted at 
needing to help Dean Geibel of Metro Homes, whose building the Esperanza is now 
suspended in animation, a cold reminder on the same piece of land as the famous 
symbol of the last fiasco. He got caught in this national financing debacle, 
Lamle's quoted saying. Was it the “national debacle” or a far more local one? 
Perhaps the Partners' Mission Impossible Deal? 
 
He can’t do much about the national economy but is Lamle willing to change this 
impossible agreement? Loosen the handcuffs?  
 
Mottola is quoted saying he needs to negotiate a subsequent redeveloper 
agreement with the city for the boardwalk plans and an agreement on the Kushner 
properties. Is this when the tentacles of the existing contracts with Asbury 
Partners will bare their slimy barbs? Isn't the city itself, mum at yesterday’s 
press conference, also negotiating yet another agreement with the Partners -- 
the global settlement agreement?  
 
Was Kushner's decision to pull out prompted at all by his unwillingness to fork 
over 7% of the sale of the Wesley Grove units to Asbury Partners? Twenty-two 
have been sold; we'd like to know if 7% of those sale prices went to the 
Partners. It's time the residents and officials of Asbury Park knew the details 
of these deals. 
 
And, by the way, where is Cherokee Investments? Last time we looked they were 
50% of Asbury Partners. Don't they have a say in this? Our former redevelopment 
attorney Jimmy Aaron said Cherokee put $30 million into the Partners’ pot. Did 
they sell their share? If so, who bought it? 
 
We have a right to be in the loop, because it is our taxes, our businesses and 
our homes on the line.
If we're entering a new phase with Madison Marquette let’s be sure we're on 
equal footing. We can't be if only some parties know the details. Otherwise the 
plans sound wonderful.
 
 

Maureen Nevin
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RE: [AsburyPark] Re: The plan needs

2008-01-15 Thread Debbie DeLisa

If the Wonder Bar reopens The Windmill will be going in there!


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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA! Windmill on the BW. That was an almost. you also 
have the mayfair. The older the grill, the better - like a pizza stone. 







RE: [AsburyPark] Re: The plan needs

2008-01-15 Thread Debbie DeLisa

I forgot to say Gary is going to put in a dog run outside so we can have Doggy 
Happy Hour every night!  Hooray!


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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I totally agree, as a wise man told me 5 months ago, the biggest $  grossing 
night of the W.B. was closing night, which will be squashed by A wise man on 
the boardwalk once showed his receipts from the 1960's when soda was 10 cents 
as was ice cream. That's why he coudn't take it any longer because when he 
showed me, it was $1.00 and he was doing less.That's why there is opportunity. 
Sorry if I tied it to $. These wisemen see it. That's why there is a call to 
action