Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread charlie
There are no plans to 'cut-down' the park as you put it.
You are completely wrong about the sprinkler system. It was paid for,
installed and donated to the City by the Garden Club. The only thing
wrong with it was that the City refused to maintain it or even use it.
   
   The Bradley Park one day will be renovated.  Do you think it will really 
remain in the same state that it's in now? 
   I'm fully aware that the sprinkler system was donated from the garden 
club to the city. Maybe i should have worded better.  The fact was that it was 
paid for, and then destroyed (as you, and others have pointed out).

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-04 Thread firemer
The bottom line is the CH is one of the focal points of Asbury Park that people 
will judge it by.? It looks like crap in the inside now, broken tile floors, 
cracks on the wall etc.? An attractive and fixed up CH will do alot to the 
revival of the town.


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Considering that people go to Convention hall (shows and events are scheduled) 
maybe that is why there is a focus.? I gather the impression that some will not 
be happy unless Asbury Park looks exactly as it did in 1972 and back they it 
was failing.? 


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 Another inappropriate use of resources and waste of money.
Large concrete planters and lots of plants - WHY ???
Has it not occured to anyone that there is a saddly neglected formal 
park right there.
Bradley park is what needs the plants - to be restored as a beutiful 
landscape.
So, they spend tons on money to put potted plants next to the park.
Dysfunctional

 Theres nothing wrong with the planters in my opinion.? They look nice.? 
You're right however, there's no functional reason for their existence... . But 
does there have to be 
 The shrubs planted decades ago on each corner of Bradley Park are also 
pointless.? They have no privacy function behind them.? Unless you know of 
something?? They were planted to beautify the park.? The same way the pots 
beautify the Paramount courtyard and sidewalk in front of CH.? If you don't 
agree with how it looks, thats your opinion, which is fine!!
? ?? I'm sure Bradley Park will be restored with new grass and plants someday 
soon.? The park still needs to be cut down a few feet to match the new sidewalk 
height...? In my opinion this is why the underground sprinkler system wasn't 
cared for, because they new it would need to come up in the future.? Not fair 
that the city paid for it, and it was destroyed tho.? Something should be given 
back for sure. 
? ? ? A completely separate issue!? The two do not connect in anyway.? You 
can't compare adding beautification to sidewalks and courtyards with a park 
that is next to them!? One thing at a time.? 
 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-04 Thread charlie
Disputing the location of platers is really splitting hairs.we 
should all me happy MM is PLANTING as well as all the others who are 
vested in this AP community. I like Charlie's comment. one step 
at time.or was it step by step, something like that.

John
   
  Thanks. It makes sence to me  OF COURSE plants in the park would be nice, 
but do you see any construction activity going on there?  Why plant shurbs and 
trees when the ground they are planted in will soon be leveled down a few feet? 
 
   The placement of the planters is purley an opinon.  They are 
beautifucation.  If you don't like them, thats fine, but it's your opinion.  

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-04 Thread charlie
Considering that people go to Convention hall (shows and events are scheduled) 
maybe that is why there is a focus.  I gather the impression that some will not 
be happy unless Asbury Park looks exactly as it did in 1972 and back they it 
was failing.  
   
   There will always be people who don't like change... Change is happening 
and will happen in the future (a lot!).  There's no way around it.  Saving 
buidlings and historical sites are good and should be done (I know there are 
issues with this topic, but lets not get into that right now, stick with the 
overall concept).  When you start adding new things, things that weren't there 
before, people tend to throw questions out left and right.  It's wild.  New 
things are coming, things that weren't there before.

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-03 Thread charlie
 Another inappropriate use of resources and waste of money.
 Large concrete planters and lots of plants - WHY ???
 Has it not occured to anyone that there is a saddly neglected formal 
 park right there.
 Bradley park is what needs the plants - to be restored as a beutiful 
 landscape.
 So, they spend tons on money to put potted plants next to the park.
 Dysfunctional

 Theres nothing wrong with the planters in my opinion.  They look nice.  
You're right however, there's no functional reason for their existence But 
does there have to be???  
 The shrubs planted decades ago on each corner of Bradley Park are also 
pointless.  They have no privacy function behind them.  Unless you know of 
something?  They were planted to beautify the park.  The same way the pots 
beautify the Paramount courtyard and sidewalk in front of CH.  If you don't 
agree with how it looks, thats your opinion, which is fine!!
 I'm sure Bradley Park will be restored with new grass and plants someday 
soon.  The park still needs to be cut down a few feet to match the new sidewalk 
height...  In my opinion this is why the underground sprinkler system wasn't 
cared for, because they new it would need to come up in the future.  Not fair 
that the city paid for it, and it was destroyed tho.  Something should be given 
back for sure. 
  A completely separate issue!  The two do not connect in anyway.  You 
can't compare adding beautification to sidewalks and courtyards with a park 
that is next to them!  One thing at a time.  
 

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