Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal

2005-10-06 Thread Abdualtalac
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  Ed Johnson is just finally showing his true self behind his b.s. 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal

2005-10-06 Thread Abdualtalac
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  bruno will eventually step on the wrong toes , or should i say the 
  right toes, and he will get his just 
due.

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal

2005-10-06 Thread Abdualtalac
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  Oh yes, and one more thing, a lot of you were duped into voting 
  them in. Keady is the best thing that happened to the council, now they 
  want to treat him like they did hamilton. They are turning on him because 
  he is not playing their game. They are sitting down now, trying to figure 
  out a way to silence or get rid of him. Keep your eyes open, it's going to 
  get worse. Money and greed will definitely destroy this city 
  again.

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal

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  Most definately

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal

2005-10-06 Thread Allen McDaniel
HERE HERE!!!  I AGREE!  -al

--- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  This is why Jime Keady was voted in.  Where are
 his comments?
 
 Jim has taken a break from this forum (shouldn't we
 all). Were you 
 at the council meeting? Jim was the only one on the
 council who took 
 up this issue and was basically asked to SHUT UP by
 Ed Johnson. Ed 
 obviously does not appreciate what this latest trick
 represents, or 
 simply doesn't care.
 
 Had you been at the meeting, you would have
 witnessed something that 
 should make every citizen irate. Jim Keady, after
 they tried to 
 silence him on the plan issue, brought up the issue
 of him being 
 denied the floor and asked for a point of order from
 the city 
 attorney pursuant to Roberts. The Deputy Mayor, Jim
 Bruno, basically 
 told Keady, you want to play by the rules? Okay, you
 will never get 
 three votes for anything you want on this council.
 That is one of 
 his latest episodes. He has threatened to slap
 citizens at meetings, 
 told them to shut up. I don't care how long he or
 his family has 
 been in this town, or what he has done, he is a
 disgrace and 
 obviously understands little that is brought before
 him. He owes his 
 pension and his allegiance to Weldon. He should not
 only be removed 
 from the council, but should be physically removed
 from the chambers.
 
 
 
 
 




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal

2005-10-05 Thread Allan Peterson



This is why Jime Keady was voted in. Where are his comments?Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"If the actual official "Official Adopted Plan" (whatever that is andif ever it is found) differs drastically from what was represented asbeing the Adopted Plan, then there are more serious questions aboutwhat is actually going on in this city with regard to the waterfrontdevelopment."It is widely known that New Jersey is the most corrupt state in theUnion; that said who would be surprised that official governmentdocuments at any level, remain official only until their currencybecomes dated and their subsequent currency is determined to beinsufficient to compensate those who paid, in good faith, to acquirewhatever they may have wished from whichever governments that werethen peddling public wares. I'm breathless.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked
 the city why the Plan was removed from its website. The  answer I received raises more questions in my mind (which I posed to  them), as I am sure it will in yours. It appears that when I cited  pages from the Plan (which I obtained from the city website)  relating to the C-8 site, the city could not find the same  references in its "official" copy of the Adopted Plan. The cover  page of the Plan from its website, and I believe the one from which  reference, is dated June 5, 2002 (Amended), which coincides with the  official date of adoption by the City.  The City now maintains that that copy of the Plan is not that which  was adopted by the Council, and thus, had it removed from its  website. I might also add that it is my understanding that this is  the same version which has been supplied to the public in hardcopy  and for intents and purposes, has been portrayed as the
 Adopted Plan.  Pursuant to the City, the plan that was "officially" adopted by the  Mayor and Council on 6/5/02 has a cover page with a date of DRAFT,  March 15,2002 and a latest amended date of "to be determined,"  whatever that is supposed to mean. That is almost the same language  used for the purchase price of the Triangle which was actually  conveyed almost 3 years ago with the price to the City still yet to  be determined.  The City also maintains that the Official Adopted Plan will also  contain all of the amendments adopted to the plan by Mayor and  Council by ordinance numbers 2607 and 2729, and that WHEN it finds a  copy of the Official Adopted Plan, it will be posted to its website.  Now before I, or anyone, jumps to conclusions of malfeasance, let me  say this: Even if the Official Adopted Plan (when found) is  identical to the Adopted
 Plan which we all thought was "official",  the City, in the words of Ricky Ricardo, "has some splainin to do."  I would like to know who prepared the Amended June 5, 2002 Plan and  for what purpose? This is the version of the Plan we were told  represented what the City adopted as a result of the input,  suggestions and testimony of the Planning Board and the public by  means of a series of meetings. This is the version of the Adopted  Plan that the public was given in both electronic and hardcopy  format.  I have heard suggestions that it was commissioned by Asbury Partners  in response to the changes that were were supposed to be adopted as  a result of the public meetings and Planning Board input. In fact,  it is the same version which the city clerk has and until recently,  assumed was the Adopted Plan as amended by ordinances enacted  subsequent to
 6/5/02. No one can own up to creating this document.  Now if it turns out that in fact Asbury Partners created it and it  is touted as being an "official" document, but now IS NOT, I think  that proves what many of us have been saying, that is, that Asbury  Partners is the preverbial tail wagging the dog.  If the actual official Official Adopted Plan (whatever that is and  if ever it is found) differs drastically from what was represented  as being the Adopte Plan, then there are more serious questions  about what is actually going on in this city with regard to the  waterfront development.  Far be it from me to unnecessarily cast suspicion, however, this  entire process was hatched badly (Weldon) and has done nothing but  raise further questions along the way. The most simplest part should  be to say WHAT THE PLAN IS. We can't even say that. I am not making
  this stuff up. I couldn't. Watch the road.
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