Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[SANDIP DUTTA]

:-))

C'da wrote : "So what if I infer something incorrectly and someone corrects me? 
Would that make me look stupid? On the other hand it would make me more 
informed. We will all be better for it. Being exposed as disingenuous however 
is another matter"

Heh Heh - why not get into the art of practicing what you speak ?? You are 
being corrected all the time by all our netters here - but do you learn? The 
answer is no! 

People with closed minds never learn - do they :-)?

Rgds,
SD


- Original Message 
From: Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram 
Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:02:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM


Hmmm..  does that do any good.  We tried it a
number of times (includnig the Ant Grasshopper) but
---  'nwdhown gaa  dhouaali, nakhawn  bhaat khuali,
nigilw ki koro kor' "   (Quote courtesy C'da)


--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  >It is definitely a good example but in other
> sense ---
> >   of how you twist words, put your words in others
> >mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *** If I did that, the antidote would have been to
> point out  HOW I 
> TWISTED it or what I put on a whose mouth, for all
> to see. End of 
> story!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:59 PM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
> wrote:
> >  > A good example was  your understanding of  the
> >>  feeble fable of  the
> >>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
> >>
> >
> >It is definitely a good example but in other sense
> ---
> >   of how you twist words, put your words in others
> >mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  I have always maintained I will explain. But I
> want
> >>  to see where the
> >>  questioners are coming from.
> >>  If they get it, it is a feather on their caps.
> If
> >>  not we will explain.
> >>
> >>  A good example was  your understanding of  the
> >>  feeble fable of  the
> >>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  At 10:55 AM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu
> Chakraborty
> >>  wrote:
> >>  >  > It is also widely known that people
> sometimes
> >>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability
> to
> >>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid
> facing
> >>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit
> or to
> >>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
> >>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the
> correct
> >>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded
> or of
> >>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is
> what
> >>  >>  produces the response.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >That perfectly explains why you avoid answering
> >>  many
> >>  >unpleasant questions :-)
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly,
> could
> >>  >not help jumping in
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >>  At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA
> wrote:
> >>  >>  >Dear Sondon Da,
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >I am not in the business of mind reading.
> So I
> >>  >>  asked.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  *** How about ordinary English?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an
> ability
> >>  to
> >>  >>  draw inferences from what is written, in
> >>  ordinary
> >>  >>  English, that is .
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Degree of this ability is a measure of a
> >>  person's
> >>  >>  intelligence, which usually improves with
> >>  >>  experiences and exposures gained over time.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  It is also widely known that people
> sometimes
> >>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability
> to
> >>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid
> facing
> >>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit
> or to
> >>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
> >>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the
> correct
> >>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded
> or of
> >>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is
> what
> >>  >>  produces the response.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  But  we are all in that same boat. So what
> if I
> >>  >>  infer something incorrectly and someone
> corrects
> >>  >>  me? Would that make me look stupid? On the
> other
> >>  >>  hand it would make me more informed. We will
> all
> >>  >>  be better for it. Being exposed as
> disingenuous
> >>  >>  however is another matter.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the
> >>  >>  thought about hurting my feelings by
> exposing my
> >>  >>  hidden intentions.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  s-d
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >Rgds,
> >>  >>  >Sandip
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >- Original Message 
> >>  >>  >From: Chan

Re: [Assam] India shining?

[Chan Mahanta]

In spite of the ill-wishers of India, looks like it has finally 
arrived at the promised land.


So, when is the party to celebrate?
















At 7:01 AM +0530 8/23/07, mc mahant wrote:
India shining??-- 


Doubts?
mm


Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:31:53 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: [Assam] India shining?

This from the New York Times.

I know, columns like this give heartburns to a few naysayers on the 
net, but hopefully, they realize that even a country like Japan, 
does not want to be left behind when it comes to investments in 
India. :).
 Without resorting to rah-rahs, while a few diehards on the net may 
want it otherwise, India is fast developing into a major economic 
power. Last night, at the Charlie Rose Show, Larry Summers (of 
Harvard, economist, and former Treasury Secy) was also talking about 
the huge developmental (and distributional) strides both China and 
India have been experiencing.


--Ram

 


August 21, 2007

As Japan and India Forge Economic Ties, a Counterweight to China Is Seen

By HEATHER TIMMONS
NEW DELHI, Aug. 20 - When Prime Minister 
Shinzo 
Abe of 
Japan 
touches down in 
India 
this week, it will be the highest-level step yet in what analysts 
say is a long-term effort to balance, if not contain, China's 
growing economic and political might.
As Beijing's influence in Asia and around the world has grown, their 
common interests have forced Tokyo and New Delhi to begin warming 
their historically chilly relationship and to start forging closer 
economic ties. "The key issue facing the whole region is how to 
accommodate the rise of China," said Suman Bery, the director 
general of the National Council of Applied Economic Research, a New 
Delhi research group. Indian economists estimate that Japanese 
investment in India will reach $5.5 billion by 2011, compared with 
just $515 million in the 2006 fiscal year.
Mr. Abe is on his first trip to India. He and his Indian 
counterpart, Manmohan Singh, are expected to unveil public-private 
partnerships and new business initiatives. Leading the agenda will 
be a $100 billion infrastructure project to create a high-tech 
manufacturing and freight corridor between New Delhi, India's 
capital, and Mumbai, its port and financial center. It would be the 
most expensive development project in India, and a third of the bill 
would be paid by Japanese public and private money. Mr. Abe and Mr. 
Singh are expected to announce that the two governments have reached 
formal agreement on the deal.
Japanese business leaders traveling with Mr. Abe will disclose 
similar deals this week - on natural gas, transportation, currency 
swaps and Japanese investment in Indian educational projects, Indian 
officials said. Chief executives from 
Toyota, 
Mitsubishi, 
Canon, 
Hitachi 
and others have joined a new India-Japan business leader forum, 
which will meet for the first time on Wednesday in New Delhi.
Consultants are trying, so far in vain, to coin the catchphrase, 
like "the Samurai and the Swami," that will sum up the nascent 
strategic economic relationship between the countries.
Courting India has come slowly for the Japanese, who were highly 
critical of India's surprise nuclear weapons test in 1998. While 
Japan is a large lender to India, until now it has not been a major 
investor or business partner. Instead, Japan has virtually sat on 
the sidelines while countries from Switzerland to Brazil cemented 
business alliances in India, where economic growth is about 9 
percent a year.
Japan's trade with India was about $6.5 billion in 2006, according 
to the Indian government - about 4 percent of Japan's trade with 
China. "Whatever doubts Japan had for so long, now India is smelling 
like roses," said Jagdish N. Bhagwati, an economist and a professor 
at 
Columbia 
University and a fellow at the 
Council 
on Foreign Relations. "They want to get in

Re: [Assam] India shining?

[mc mahant]

India shining?‏-- 
 
Doubts?
mm



Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:31:53 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Assam] India shining?
This from the New York Times.
 
I know, columns like this give heartburns to a few naysayers on the net, but 
hopefully, they realize that even a country like Japan, does not want to be 
left behind when it comes to investments in India. :).
 Without resorting to rah-rahs, while a few diehards on the net may want it 
otherwise, India is fast developing into a major economic power. Last night, at 
the Charlie Rose Show, Larry Summers (of Harvard, economist, and former 
Treasury Secy) was also talking about the huge developmental (and 
distributional) strides both China and India have been experiencing.  
 
--Ram
 
 


August 21, 2007

As Japan and India Forge Economic Ties, a Counterweight to China Is Seen 
By HEATHER TIMMONS

NEW DELHI, Aug. 20 — When Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan touches down in 
India this week, it will be the highest-level step yet in what analysts say is 
a long-term effort to balance, if not contain, China's growing economic and 
political might. 
As Beijing's influence in Asia and around the world has grown, their common 
interests have forced Tokyo and New Delhi to begin warming their historically 
chilly relationship and to start forging closer economic ties. "The key issue 
facing the whole region is how to accommodate the rise of China," said Suman 
Bery, the director general of the National Council of Applied Economic 
Research, a New Delhi research group. Indian economists estimate that Japanese 
investment in India will reach $5.5 billion by 2011, compared with just $515 
million in the 2006 fiscal year. 
Mr. Abe is on his first trip to India. He and his Indian counterpart, Manmohan 
Singh, are expected to unveil public-private partnerships and new business 
initiatives. Leading the agenda will be a $100 billion infrastructure project 
to create a high-tech manufacturing and freight corridor between New Delhi, 
India's capital, and Mumbai, its port and financial center. It would be the 
most expensive development project in India, and a third of the bill would be 
paid by Japanese public and private money. Mr. Abe and Mr. Singh are expected 
to announce that the two governments have reached formal agreement on the deal. 
Japanese business leaders traveling with Mr. Abe will disclose similar deals 
this week — on natural gas, transportation, currency swaps and Japanese 
investment in Indian educational projects, Indian officials said. Chief 
executives from Toyota, Mitsubishi, Canon, Hitachi and others have joined a new 
India-Japan business leader forum, which will meet for the first time on 
Wednesday in New Delhi. 
Consultants are trying, so far in vain, to coin the catchphrase, like "the 
Samurai and the Swami," that will sum up the nascent strategic economic 
relationship between the countries. 
Courting India has come slowly for the Japanese, who were highly critical of 
India's surprise nuclear weapons test in 1998. While Japan is a large lender to 
India, until now it has not been a major investor or business partner. Instead, 
Japan has virtually sat on the sidelines while countries from Switzerland to 
Brazil cemented business alliances in India, where economic growth is about 9 
percent a year. 
Japan's trade with India was about $6.5 billion in 2006, according to the 
Indian government — about 4 percent of Japan's trade with China. "Whatever 
doubts Japan had for so long, now India is smelling like roses," said Jagdish 
N. Bhagwati, an economist and a professor at Columbia University and a fellow 
at the Council on Foreign Relations. "They want to get in before it is too 
late." 
For Japan, India is an attractive market, both for its growing consumer 
spending and cheap labor. Tokyo also has an interest in diversifying its Asian 
trading partners and reducing its dependence on China. As an increasingly 
confident China has flexed its muscle regionally and globally, anti-Chinese 
sentiment has been rising in Japan, as has anti-Japanese sentiment in China. 
"India is a much safer bet, in business terms," because it lacks the historical 
baggage, said Richard Tanter, professor of international relations at the Royal 
Melbourne Institute of Technology in Australia.
Then there is the straightforward economics. Japanese and other automakers, for 
instance, view India as a potential manufacturing center that could offer lower 
labor costs than China. But India's manufacturing and export potential are 
still crippled by an inability to move goods in and around the country. 
The proposed New Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor could address that problem. 
The nearly 1,500-kilometer corridor would include a high-speed freight line and 
nine 200-square-kilometer investment regions dedicated to industries like 
chemicals and engineering, as well as three ports and six airports. 
Infrastructure projects like the industrial corridor ar

[Assam] India shining?

[Ram Sarangapani]

This from the New York Times.

I know, columns like this give heartburns to a few naysayers on the net, but
hopefully, they realize that even a country like Japan, does not want to be
left behind when it comes to investments in India. :).
 Without resorting to rah-rahs, while a few diehards on the net may want it
otherwise, India is fast developing into a major economic power. Last night,
at the Charlie Rose Show, Larry Summers (of Harvard, economist, and former
Treasury Secy) was also talking about the huge developmental (and
distributional) strides both China and India have been experiencing.

--Ram

 
--
August 21, 2007
 As Japan and India Forge Economic Ties, a Counterweight to China Is Seen By
HEATHER TIMMONS 

NEW DELHI, Aug. 20 — When Prime Minister Shinzo
Abeof
Japantouches
down in
Indiathis
week, it will be the highest-level step yet in what analysts say is a
long-term effort to balance, if not contain, China's growing economic and
political might.

As Beijing's influence in Asia and around the world has grown, their common
interests have forced Tokyo and New Delhi to begin warming their
historically chilly relationship and to start forging closer economic ties.
"The key issue facing the whole region is how to accommodate the rise of
China," said Suman Bery, the director general of the National Council of
Applied Economic Research, a New Delhi research group. Indian economists
estimate that Japanese investment in India will reach $5.5 billion by 2011,
compared with just $515 million in the 2006 fiscal year.

Mr. Abe is on his first trip to India. He and his Indian counterpart,
Manmohan Singh, are expected to unveil public-private partnerships and new
business initiatives. Leading the agenda will be a $100 billion
infrastructure project to create a high-tech manufacturing and freight
corridor between New Delhi, India's capital, and Mumbai, its port and
financial center. It would be the most expensive development project in
India, and a third of the bill would be paid by Japanese public and private
money. Mr. Abe and Mr. Singh are expected to announce that the two
governments have reached formal agreement on the deal.

Japanese business leaders traveling with Mr. Abe will disclose similar deals
this week — on natural gas, transportation, currency swaps and Japanese
investment in Indian educational projects, Indian officials said. Chief
executives from
Toyota,
Mitsubishi,
Canon, 
Hitachiand
others have joined a new India-Japan business leader forum, which will
meet for the first time on Wednesday in New Delhi.

Consultants are trying, so far in vain, to coin the catchphrase, like "the
Samurai and the Swami," that will sum up the nascent strategic economic
relationship between the countries.

Courting India has come slowly for the Japanese, who were highly critical of
India's surprise nuclear weapons test in 1998. While Japan is a large lender
to India, until now it has not been a major investor or business partner.
Instead, Japan has virtually sat on the sidelines while countries from
Switzerland to Brazil cemented business alliances in India, where economic
growth is about 9 percent a year.

Japan's trade with India was about $6.5 billion in 2006, according to the
Indian government — about 4 percent of Japan's trade with China. "Whatever
doubts Japan had for so long, now India is smelling like roses," said
Jagdish N. Bhagwati, an economist and a professor at Columbia
Universityand
a fellow at the Council
on Foreign 
Relations.
"They want to get in before it is too late."

For Japan, India is an attractive market, both for its growing consumer
spending and cheap labor. Tokyo also has an interest in diversifying its
Asian trading partners and reducing its dependence on China. As an
increasingly confident China has flexed its muscle regionally and globally,
anti-Chinese sentiment has been rising in Japan, as has anti-J

Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Chan Mahanta]

At 2:32 PM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>Hmmm..  does that do any good.  We tried it a
>number of times (includnig the Ant Grasshopper) but
>---  'nwdhown gaa  dhouaali, nakhawn  bhaat khuali,
>nigilw ki koro kor' "   (Quote courtesy C'da)




 That would erode, if not damage the credibility of the offender, 
wouldn't it?

Anyone can say anything. Claim  whatever he wants to. But if he has 
no credibility, what good does that do? Isn't that what it is all 
about?










>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  >  >It is definitely a good example but in other
>>  sense ---
>>  >   of how you twist words, put your words in others
>>  >mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *** If I did that, the antidote would have been to
>>  point out  HOW I
>>  TWISTED it or what I put on a whose mouth, for all
>>  to see. End of
>>  story!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  At 12:59 PM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  wrote:
>>  >  > A good example was  your understanding of  the
>>  >>  feeble fable of  the
>>  >>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >It is definitely a good example but in other sense
>>  ---
>>  >   of how you twist words, put your words in others
>>  >mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>  I have always maintained I will explain. But I
>>  want
>>  >>  to see where the
>>  >>  questioners are coming from.
>>  >>  If they get it, it is a feather on their caps.
>>  If
>>  >>  not we will explain.
>>  >>
>>  >>  A good example was  your understanding of  the
>>  >>  feeble fable of  the
>>  >>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  At 10:55 AM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu
>>  Chakraborty
>>  >>  wrote:
>>  >>  >  > It is also widely known that people
>>  sometimes
>>  >>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability
>>  to
>>  >>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid
>>  facing
>>  >>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit
>>  or to
>>  >>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
>>  >>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the
>>  correct
>>  >>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded
>>  or of
>>  >>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is
>>  what
>>  >>  >>  produces the response.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >That perfectly explains why you avoid answering
>>  >>  many
>>  >>  >unpleasant questions :-)
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly,
>>  could
>>  >>  >not help jumping in
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA
>>  wrote:
>>  >>  >>  >Dear Sondon Da,
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >I am not in the business of mind reading.
>>  So I
>>  >>  >>  asked.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  *** How about ordinary English?
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an
>>  ability
>>  >>  to
>>  >>  >>  draw inferences from what is written, in
>>  >>  ordinary
>>  >>  >>  English, that is .
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  Degree of this ability is a measure of a
>>  >>  person's
>>  >>  >>  intelligence, which usually improves with
>>  >>  >>  experiences and exposures gained over time.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  It is also widely known that people
>>  sometimes
>>  >>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability
>>  to
>>  >>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid
>>  facing
>>  >>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit
>>  or to
>>  >>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
>>  >>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the
>>  correct
>>  >>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded
>>  or of
>>  >>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is
>>  what
>>  >>  >>  produces the response.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  But  we are all in that same boat. So what
>>  if I
>>  >>  >>  infer something incorrectly and someone
>  > corrects
>>  >>  >>  me? Would that make me look stupid? On the
>>  other
>>  >>  >>  hand it would make me more informed. We will
>>  all
>>  >>  >>  be better for it. Being exposed as
>>  disingenuous
>>  >>  >>  however is another matter.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the
>>  >>  >>  thought about hurting my feelings by
>>  exposing my
>>  >>  >>  hidden intentions.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  s-d
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >Rgds,
>>  >>  >>  >Sandip
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >- Original Message 
>>  >>  >>  >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >>  >>  >To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>  Krishnendu
>>  >>  >>  >Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan
>>  Mahanta
>>  >>  

Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Krishnendu Chakraborty]

Hmmm..  does that do any good.  We tried it a
number of times (includnig the Ant Grasshopper) but
---  'nwdhown gaa  dhouaali, nakhawn  bhaat khuali,
nigilw ki koro kor' "   (Quote courtesy C'da)


--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  >It is definitely a good example but in other
> sense ---
> >   of how you twist words, put your words in others
> >mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *** If I did that, the antidote would have been to
> point out  HOW I 
> TWISTED it or what I put on a whose mouth, for all
> to see. End of 
> story!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:59 PM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
> wrote:
> >  > A good example was  your understanding of  the
> >>  feeble fable of  the
> >>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
> >>
> >
> >It is definitely a good example but in other sense
> ---
> >   of how you twist words, put your words in others
> >mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  I have always maintained I will explain. But I
> want
> >>  to see where the
> >>  questioners are coming from.
> >>  If they get it, it is a feather on their caps.
> If
> >>  not we will explain.
> >>
> >>  A good example was  your understanding of  the
> >>  feeble fable of  the
> >>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  At 10:55 AM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu
> Chakraborty
> >>  wrote:
> >>  >  > It is also widely known that people
> sometimes
> >>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability
> to
> >>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid
> facing
> >>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit
> or to
> >>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
> >>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the
> correct
> >>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded
> or of
> >>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is
> what
> >>  >>  produces the response.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >That perfectly explains why you avoid answering
> >>  many
> >>  >unpleasant questions :-)
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly,
> could
> >>  >not help jumping in
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >>  At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA
> wrote:
> >>  >>  >Dear Sondon Da,
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >I am not in the business of mind reading.
> So I
> >>  >>  asked.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  *** How about ordinary English?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an
> ability
> >>  to
> >>  >>  draw inferences from what is written, in
> >>  ordinary
> >>  >>  English, that is .
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Degree of this ability is a measure of a
> >>  person's
> >>  >>  intelligence, which usually improves with
> >>  >>  experiences and exposures gained over time.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  It is also widely known that people
> sometimes
> >>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability
> to
> >>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid
> facing
> >>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit
> or to
> >>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
> >>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the
> correct
> >>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded
> or of
> >>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is
> what
> >>  >>  produces the response.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  But  we are all in that same boat. So what
> if I
> >>  >>  infer something incorrectly and someone
> corrects
> >>  >>  me? Would that make me look stupid? On the
> other
> >>  >>  hand it would make me more informed. We will
> all
> >>  >>  be better for it. Being exposed as
> disingenuous
> >>  >>  however is another matter.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the
> >>  >>  thought about hurting my feelings by
> exposing my
> >>  >>  hidden intentions.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  s-d
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >Rgds,
> >>  >>  >Sandip
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >- Original Message 
> >>  >>  >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>  >To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Krishnendu
> >>  >>  >Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan
> Mahanta
> >>  >>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani
> >>  >>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>  >Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu
> Chakraborty
> >>  >>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>  >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:21:39 PM
> >>  >>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE
> PEOPLE OF
> >>  >>  ASSAM
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >*** Why don't you give it a try and figure
> it
> >  > >>  >out by yourself? As a highly trained
> whatever,
> >>  >>  >you ought to be able to  do so. A high
> school
> 
=== message truncated ===



  

Shape Yahoo! in your own image.  Joi

Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Chan Mahanta]

>  >It is definitely a good example but in other sense ---
>   of how you twist words, put your words in others
>mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.




*** If I did that, the antidote would have been to point out  HOW I 
TWISTED it or what I put on a whose mouth, for all to see. End of 
story!













At 12:59 PM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>  > A good example was  your understanding of  the
>>  feeble fable of  the
>>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
>>
>
>It is definitely a good example but in other sense ---
>   of how you twist words, put your words in others
>mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.
>
>
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>  I have always maintained I will explain. But I want
>>  to see where the
>>  questioners are coming from.
>>  If they get it, it is a feather on their caps. If
>>  not we will explain.
>>
>>  A good example was  your understanding of  the
>>  feeble fable of  the
>>  Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  At 10:55 AM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  wrote:
>>  >  > It is also widely known that people sometimes
>>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to
>>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing
>>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to
>>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
>>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the correct
>>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of
>>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what
>>  >>  produces the response.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >That perfectly explains why you avoid answering
>>  many
>>  >unpleasant questions :-)
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly, could
>>  >not help jumping in
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
>>  >>  >Dear Sondon Da,
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >I am not in the business of mind reading. So I
>>  >>  asked.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  *** How about ordinary English?
>>  >>
>>  >>  It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an ability
>>  to
>>  >>  draw inferences from what is written, in
>>  ordinary
>>  >>  English, that is .
>>  >>
>>  >>  Degree of this ability is a measure of a
>>  person's
>>  >>  intelligence, which usually improves with
>>  >>  experiences and exposures gained over time.
>>  >>
>>  >>  It is also widely known that people sometimes
>>  >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to
>>  >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing
>>  >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to
>>  >>  express it when faced with more than one
>>  >>  possibility but unsure of which is the correct
>>  >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of
>>  >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what
>>  >>  produces the response.
>>  >>
>>  >>  But  we are all in that same boat. So what if I
>>  >>  infer something incorrectly and someone corrects
>>  >>  me? Would that make me look stupid? On the other
>>  >>  hand it would make me more informed. We will all
>>  >>  be better for it. Being exposed as disingenuous
>>  >>  however is another matter.
>>  >>
>>  >>  So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the
>>  >>  thought about hurting my feelings by exposing my
>>  >>  hidden intentions.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  s-d
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >Rgds,
>>  >>  >Sandip
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >- Original Message 
>>  >>  >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >>  >To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Krishnendu
>>  >>  >Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan Mahanta
>>  >>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani
>>  >>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >>  >Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  >>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >>  >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:21:39 PM
>>  >>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF
>>  >>  ASSAM
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >*** Why don't you give it a try and figure it
>  > >>  >out by yourself? As a highly trained whatever,
>>  >>  >you ought to be able to  do so. A high school
>>  >>  >graduate could.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >But if you still can't, I am always here to
>>  help
>>  >>  the needy. Just let me know.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >  >Since you went right out of this country
>>  with
>>  >>  >gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never
>>  >>  >returning, >could you explain your pastime of
>>  >>  >continually making digs at India or Indians for
>>  >>  >all of Assam's ills.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >*** Yes, I came along with our friend and one
>>  >>  >time netter, Digambar Pungta, sporting my
>>  >>  >baapoti-xahwn
>>  >>  >gamosa, which, in time  even flew into
>>  >>  >outer-space, thanks to Mike Finke the
>>  >>  >Markharkhowa jowain of all older Kharkhowas in
>>  >>  >these shores.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >Did you really have to ASK why I rattle
>>  >>  >desi-cage

[Assam] Quotable quotes

[Dilip/Dil Deka]

Quotable quotes from George Fernandes:
   
  Lip Slips   On Indira Gandhi: “Congenital liar... All dictators are 
congenital liars, but Madam, you excel them all!”   On Sanjay Gandhi: “The 
third generation upstart hailed as the Rising Son.”   On Bansi Lal: “Faceless 
hack.”   On V P Singh: “If there is no V P Singh, we have to invent one.”   On 
Rajiv Gandhi, after he ridiculed the coalition United Front government of V P 
Singh as “United Affront”: “If it (coalitions) can work in your mother-in-law’s 
country, it can work in your mother’s country also.”   On Sonia Gandhi: “What 
is her contribution to the nation? The two children she gave birth to. She has 
contributed two people to the 100 crore population of our country.”   On the 
secular vs non-secular claptrap: “There are two types of people in this 
country; those who are normal and those who are secular.”

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Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Krishnendu Chakraborty]

> A good example was  your understanding of  the
> feeble fable of  the 
> Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
> 

It is definitely a good example but in other sense ---
  of how you twist words, put your words in others
mouth and avoid answering relevant questions.




--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I have always maintained I will explain. But I want
> to see where the 
> questioners are coming from.
> If they get it, it is a feather on their caps. If
> not we will explain.
> 
> A good example was  your understanding of  the
> feeble fable of  the 
> Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 10:55 AM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
> wrote:
> >  > It is also widely known that people sometimes
> >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to
> >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing
> >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to
> >>  express it when faced with more than one
> >>  possibility but unsure of which is the correct
> >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of
> >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what
> >>  produces the response.
> >
> >
> >That perfectly explains why you avoid answering
> many
> >unpleasant questions :-)
> >
> >
> >c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly, could
> >not help jumping in
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>  At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
> >>  >Dear Sondon Da,
> >>  >
> >>  >I am not in the business of mind reading. So I
> >>  asked.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  *** How about ordinary English?
> >>
> >>  It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an ability
> to
> >>  draw inferences from what is written, in
> ordinary
> >>  English, that is .
> >>
> >>  Degree of this ability is a measure of a
> person's
> >>  intelligence, which usually improves with
> >>  experiences and exposures gained over time.
> >>
> >>  It is also widely known that people sometimes
> >>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to
> >>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing
> >>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to
> >>  express it when faced with more than one
> >>  possibility but unsure of which is the correct
> >>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of
> >>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what
> >>  produces the response.
> >>
> >>  But  we are all in that same boat. So what if I
> >>  infer something incorrectly and someone corrects
> >>  me? Would that make me look stupid? On the other
> >>  hand it would make me more informed. We will all
> >>  be better for it. Being exposed as disingenuous
> >>  however is another matter.
> >>
> >>  So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the
> >>  thought about hurting my feelings by exposing my
> >>  hidden intentions.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  s-d
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  >
> >>  >Rgds,
> >>  >Sandip
> >>  >
> >>  >- Original Message 
> >>  >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Krishnendu
> >>  >Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan Mahanta
> >>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani
> >>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty
> >>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:21:39 PM
> >>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF
> >>  ASSAM
> >>  >
> >>  >*** Why don't you give it a try and figure it
> >>  >out by yourself? As a highly trained whatever,
> >>  >you ought to be able to  do so. A high school
> >>  >graduate could.
> >>  >
> >>  >But if you still can't, I am always here to
> help
> >>  the needy. Just let me know.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >  >Since you went right out of this country
> with
> >>  >gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never
> >>  >returning, >could you explain your pastime of
> >>  >continually making digs at India or Indians for
> >>  >all of Assam's ills.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >*** Yes, I came along with our friend and one
> >>  >time netter, Digambar Pungta, sporting my
> >>  >baapoti-xahwn
> >>  >gamosa, which, in time  even flew into
> >>  >outer-space, thanks to Mike Finke the
> >>  >Markharkhowa jowain of all older Kharkhowas in
> >>  >these shores.
> >>  >
> >>  >Did you really have to ASK why I rattle
> >>  >desi-cages? I think I give you guys enough
> >>  >heartburn already. So , not to overdo it, I
> will
> >>  >pass on it for now.  But, but --- if it gives
> >>  >you headaches agonizing over it, do let me
> know.
> >>  >I am a kind-hearted person, always here to
> help.
> >>  >
> >>  >>  >I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you
> >  > >>were not around but were gone long before
> that.
> >>  >>
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >*** I can't help you  with the exact timing of
> >>  >the birth of ULFA, but, yes, I did leave India
> >>  >in 1970.  That however has nothing to do with
> my
> >>  >favorite pastime in assamnet.
> >>  >
> >>  >:-)
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  

Re: [Assam] Who is the Sentinel of Freedom?

[xourov pathok]

--- SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Xourov,
> 
> Thanks for your email. Your observation about the
> neutrality of a language is very much in coherence
> with today's needs. For eg. most of us here are
> equally at home with Hindi & English in addition to
> our mother tongues (Oxomiya, Bodo, Bangla etc.)
> 
> Its time the others took notice too :-).
> 

let sleeping dogs lie.  the problems in assam are no
longer tied to language.

imposing languages on peoples are never a good idea.
bengali was imposed on the assamese in the 19th 
century. assamese was imposed in the entire assam in 
20th century, partly as a revenge.  nothing good came 
off either of them.  in the 21st century we should 
keep away from prescribing languages for peoples.

it might be best to let people use the language they 
prefer.  instead of making rules and laws, peoples and

governments should use the language that is the most
convenient.

as for the mother tongues, it is probably best to let
people expand and stretch their own languages at will.
 
the bodos, the karbis and the dimasas should take 
their languages where they never were before.  and 
they should share it with others.  the sylhetis
in barak valley should be able to discover and enrich
their own siloti, and in their own newly discovered 
siloti-nagari hand.

the problems today have nothing to do with language.
it has been fashionable to blame the "assamese" for 
all ills in the region.  look at manipur-nagaland.  
assam-nagaland.  look at hiren gohain's article.

rajiv gandhi famously said that only 15% of government

spending reach the common man.  do you have a plan to 
curb the struggle for an access to the remaining 85%? 

in the times of terrible unemployment, do you have a 
plan to stop the struggle for government jobs via 
sc/st status?

blaming language today is living in the past.

x


  

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[Assam] From TOI : Now what?

[Chan Mahanta]

Now what

cm






Delhi HC acquits Soren in Jha murder case
22 Aug 2007, 1519 hrs IST,PTI

 
Delhi HC acquitted Shibu Soren in the murder case of his private 
secretary Shashinath Jha. ( AP Photo)
NEW DELHI: The Delhi High Court on Wednesday acquitted former Union 
Minister Shibu Soren in connection with the murder of his private 
secretary Shashinath Jha in 1994 after slamming the CBI for failing 
"miserably" in getting evidence against the tribal leader.

Setting aside the trial court order, which had sentenced Soren and 
four others to life term, a bench of Justice R S Sodhi and H R 
Malhotra said the CBI had "miserably failed" to prove the case.

"We set aside the order of the trial court," the bench said observing 
that that CBI was not able to prove that the body exhumed was that of 
Jha.

The bench also held that "the trial court order is far from convincing".

The 62-year-old tribal leader from Jharkhand, who had to quit as 
Union Coal Minister following his conviction on November 28 last, is 
at present lodged at Jamtara prison in Jharkhand in connection with 
Chirudih massacre case.

The court also acquitted four others-- Nand Kishore Mehta, Shailendra 
Bhattacharya, Pashupati Nath Mehta and Ajay Kumar Mehta-- of all the 
charges on the same grounds.

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Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Chan Mahanta]

I have always maintained I will explain. But I want to see where the 
questioners are coming from.
If they get it, it is a feather on their caps. If not we will explain.

A good example was  your understanding of  the feeble fable of  the 
Ant and the Grasshopper  :-).











At 10:55 AM -0700 8/22/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>  > It is also widely known that people sometimes
>>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to
>>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing
>>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to
>>  express it when faced with more than one
>>  possibility but unsure of which is the correct
>>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of
>>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what
>>  produces the response.
>
>
>That perfectly explains why you avoid answering many
>unpleasant questions :-)
>
>
>c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly, could
>not help jumping in
>
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
>>  >Dear Sondon Da,
>>  >
>>  >I am not in the business of mind reading. So I
>>  asked.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *** How about ordinary English?
>>
>>  It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an ability to
>>  draw inferences from what is written, in ordinary
>>  English, that is .
>>
>>  Degree of this ability is a measure of a person's
>>  intelligence, which usually improves with
>>  experiences and exposures gained over time.
>>
>>  It is also widely known that people sometimes
>>  play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to
>>  exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing
>>  unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to
>>  express it when faced with more than one
>>  possibility but unsure of which is the correct
>>  one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of
>>  being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what
>>  produces the response.
>>
>>  But  we are all in that same boat. So what if I
>>  infer something incorrectly and someone corrects
>>  me? Would that make me look stupid? On the other
>>  hand it would make me more informed. We will all
>>  be better for it. Being exposed as disingenuous
>>  however is another matter.
>>
>>  So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the
>>  thought about hurting my feelings by exposing my
>>  hidden intentions.
>>
>>
>>
>>  s-d
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  >
>>  >Rgds,
>>  >Sandip
>>  >
>>  >- Original Message 
>>  >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Krishnendu
>>  >Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan Mahanta
>>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani
>>  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:21:39 PM
>>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF
>>  ASSAM
>>  >
>>  >*** Why don't you give it a try and figure it
>>  >out by yourself? As a highly trained whatever,
>>  >you ought to be able to  do so. A high school
>>  >graduate could.
>>  >
>>  >But if you still can't, I am always here to help
>>  the needy. Just let me know.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  >Since you went right out of this country with
>>  >gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never
>>  >returning, >could you explain your pastime of
>>  >continually making digs at India or Indians for
>>  >all of Assam's ills.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >*** Yes, I came along with our friend and one
>>  >time netter, Digambar Pungta, sporting my
>>  >baapoti-xahwn
>>  >gamosa, which, in time  even flew into
>>  >outer-space, thanks to Mike Finke the
>>  >Markharkhowa jowain of all older Kharkhowas in
>>  >these shores.
>>  >
>>  >Did you really have to ASK why I rattle
>>  >desi-cages? I think I give you guys enough
>>  >heartburn already. So , not to overdo it, I will
>>  >pass on it for now.  But, but --- if it gives
>>  >you headaches agonizing over it, do let me know.
>>  >I am a kind-hearted person, always here to help.
>>  >
>>  >>  >I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you
>  > >>were not around but were gone long before that.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >*** I can't help you  with the exact timing of
>>  >the birth of ULFA, but, yes, I did leave India
>>  >in 1970.  That however has nothing to do with my
>>  >favorite pastime in assamnet.
>>  >
>>  >:-)
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >At 12:01 AM -0700 8/17/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>Dear Sondon Da,
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>Yes Please - We would like to hear why you have
>>  >>been forwarding articles from TOI or Indian
>>  >>express/Telegraph commenting about poverty in
>>  >>Bihar or rapes inside women's hostels in Delhi.
>>  >>If they dont concern Assam, why forward those
>>  >>articles or get heartburn from them?
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>Since you went right out of this country with
>>  >>gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never
>>  >>returning, could you explain your pastime of
>>  >>continually making digs at India or Indians for
>>  >>all of Assam's ills.
>> 

Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Krishnendu Chakraborty]

> It is also widely known that people sometimes 
> play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to 
> exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing 
> unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to 
> express it when faced with more than one 
> possibility but unsure of which is the correct 
> one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of 
> being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what 
> produces the response.


That perfectly explains why you avoid answering many
unpleasant questions :-)


c'da ,  since this was copied to me directly, could
not help jumping in



--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
> >Dear Sondon Da,
> >
> >I am not in the business of mind reading. So I
> asked.
> 
> 
> 
> *** How about ordinary English?
> 
> It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an ability to 
> draw inferences from what is written, in ordinary 
> English, that is .
> 
> Degree of this ability is a measure of a person's 
> intelligence, which usually improves with 
> experiences and exposures gained over time.
> 
> It is also widely known that people sometimes 
> play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to 
> exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing 
> unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to 
> express it when faced with more than one 
> possibility but unsure of which is the correct 
> one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of 
> being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what 
> produces the response.
> 
> But  we are all in that same boat. So what if I 
> infer something incorrectly and someone corrects 
> me? Would that make me look stupid? On the other 
> hand it would make me more informed. We will all 
> be better for it. Being exposed as disingenuous 
> however is another matter.
> 
> So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the 
> thought about hurting my feelings by exposing my 
> hidden intentions.
> 
> 
> 
> s-d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >Rgds,
> >Sandip
> >
> >- Original Message 
> >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Krishnendu 
> >Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan Mahanta 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:21:39 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF
> ASSAM
> >
> >*** Why don't you give it a try and figure it 
> >out by yourself? As a highly trained whatever, 
> >you ought to be able to  do so. A high school 
> >graduate could.
> >
> >But if you still can't, I am always here to help
> the needy. Just let me know.
> >
> >
> >  >Since you went right out of this country with 
> >gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never 
> >returning, >could you explain your pastime of 
> >continually making digs at India or Indians for 
> >all of Assam's ills.
> >
> >
> >*** Yes, I came along with our friend and one 
> >time netter, Digambar Pungta, sporting my 
> >baapoti-xahwn
> >gamosa, which, in time  even flew into 
> >outer-space, thanks to Mike Finke the 
> >Markharkhowa jowain of all older Kharkhowas in 
> >these shores.
> >
> >Did you really have to ASK why I rattle 
> >desi-cages? I think I give you guys enough 
> >heartburn already. So , not to overdo it, I will 
> >pass on it for now.  But, but --- if it gives 
> >you headaches agonizing over it, do let me know. 
> >I am a kind-hearted person, always here to help.
> >
> >>  >I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you 
> >>were not around but were gone long before that.
> >>
> >
> >
> >*** I can't help you  with the exact timing of 
> >the birth of ULFA, but, yes, I did leave India 
> >in 1970.  That however has nothing to do with my 
> >favorite pastime in assamnet.
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 12:01 AM -0700 8/17/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
> >
> >>Dear Sondon Da,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Yes Please - We would like to hear why you have 
> >>been forwarding articles from TOI or Indian 
> >>express/Telegraph commenting about poverty in 
> >>Bihar or rapes inside women's hostels in Delhi. 
> >>If they dont concern Assam, why forward those 
> >>articles or get heartburn from them?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Since you went right out of this country with 
> >>gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never 
> >>returning, could you explain your pastime of 
> >>continually making digs at India or Indians for 
> >>all of Assam's ills.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you were 
> >>not around but were gone long before that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Rgds,
> >>
> >>Sandip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message 
> >>From: Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram
> Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:36:00 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF
> ASSAM
>

[Assam] Some photographs of the NH-52 at Dhemaji (http://dhemaji.bihu.in)

[Buljit Buragohain]

 
  Some photographs of the  NH-52  at Dhemaji  which was taken on 19.08.2007.
   
  http://dhemaji.bihu.in/
   



   
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[Assam] reports from blitz, Dhaka

[Nava Thakuria]

  


Note: Forwarded message attached

-- Original Message --

From: "Nava Thakuria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ban to celebrate I-Day


--- Begin Message ---
*Published in Weekly Blitz, Dhaka, Bangladesh*



(
http://weeklyblitz.net/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1187788182&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&cat=3
)



*Ban to celebrate I-Day**  *

* *

*Nava Thakuria  reporting from Northeast*

* *

If for a section of the armed outfits of the Northeast, it becomes a ritual
to impose a ban on the celebration of the Independence Day (and the Republic
Day), the counter-reactions by media persons also emerges equally true to
form and more significantly gains momentum day by day. The journalists of
the trouble torn state of Assam has not only started disapproving such
boycott calls in their media columns, but also assembling in press club to
observe the auspicious Days of India.

As the country prepared to celebrate its 61st Independence Day, four
Northeast based banned armed groups namely the Kamatapur Liberation
Organization, Manipur People's Liberation Front, Tripura Peoples Democratic
Front and the United Liberation Front of Asom called   upon the people of
the region to 'boycott and prevent the celebration in any manner'. In a
joint statement, issued on August 10, the outfits also imposed a daylong
general strike   throughout the region starting the midnight of August 14 as
a 'mark of solidarity against Indian colonial occupation and repression'.

Simultaneously with the boycott call, the militants stepped up violence in
various parts of Assam. The explosions and shootings in different places had
snatched away the lives of nearly 40 people on the eve of the Independence
Day. Other hundred were wounded in the incidents. Most of the victims were
identified as the migrant laborers (Hindu and Hindi speaking) from Northern
India.  The police blamed ULFA and its ally  Karbi Longri NC Hills
Liberation Front (KLNLF) for the transgression.

The incident invited strong condemnation from the Prime Minister Dr Manmohan
Singh to various organizations in the State including the All Assam Students
Union and others. Meanwhile, a dawn to dusk Assam Bandh was observed in
protest against the killing of common people in the State. Called by
Purvottar Hindustani Sanmilan, Bhojpuri Yuva Chatra Parishad, Bihari Yuva
Manch and Kamrup Chamber of Commerce, the 12 hours Bandh passed off
peacefully on August 14. The ULFA militants received international media
headlines, while killing nearly hundred people in the first month of the
year on the eve of the  Republic Day.

The militants belonged to ULFA did not forget to carry out expositions on
the I-Day too. Four explosions took place nearer to the I-Day celebration
ground at Gauripur (under Dhubri district) and Bongaigaon in western Assam.
The blasts at around 9 in the morning, of course, did not claim any
casualties though reportedly injuring two persons. Meanwhile, huge amounts
of explosives were recovered from Kharupetia, Mangaldoi and Sivsagar
localities.

But the violence and the diktat of militants could not prevent the people of
the region to come forward to observe the Day.  The habitants of Mizoram,
Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland and also the presently insurgency
stricken States like Manipur, Meghalaya, Tripura (one CRPF jowan was killed
there in militants' attack on August 15) and Asom came forward and
participated in the celebration.

The journalist and citizens of Assam gathered in Guwahati Press Club
premises to mark the 61st anniversary of Indian Independence Day. Noted
litterateur Nirupama Borgohain unfurled the Tri-colour amidst an impressive
gathering. Hoisting the flag, Ms Borgohain underlined the significance of
Independence Day celebrations in today's context and she called upon the
young generations to emulate the ideals upheld by the freedom fighters. The
people should come forward overcoming all threats issued by certain quarters
to uphold the spirit of the freedom struggle, she asserted. Earlier the
veteran journalist DN Chakrabarty  led the rituals to pay tributes to the
martyrs of the freedom movement, who faced all sorts of torture of the
colonial rulers to make the country free.

The participants also carried out a procession through the main streets of
Guwahati holding the banners reading 'Uphold the dignity of the National
flag.' They also chanted slogans like Vande Mataram, Jai Hind, Bharat Mata
Ki Jai. The conscious citizens in various parts of Guwahati in particular
and Asom in general demonstrated great zeal in upholding the cause espoused
by the freedom fighters on the occasion of the Day. They organized community
celebrations too at their respective localities with great enthusiasm and
hoisted the national Tri-colour atop their houses. Guwahati, for the first
time in the last two decades, witnessed community celebrations of
Independence Day in more than ten localities.

It may mentioned that 16 senior journalists and column

[Assam] http://as.wikipedia.org

[Buljit Buragohain]

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Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

[Chan Mahanta]

At 9:27 PM -0700 8/20/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:

Dear Sondon Da,

I am not in the business of mind reading. So I asked.




*** How about ordinary English?

It does  NOT take mind-reading, but an ability to 
draw inferences from what is written, in ordinary 
English, that is .


Degree of this ability is a measure of a person's 
intelligence, which usually improves with 
experiences and exposures gained over time.


It is also widely known that people sometimes 
play 'no-comprendo' and invoke an inability to 
exercise the ability, in order to avoid facing 
unpleasant truths they would hate to admit or to 
express it when faced with more than one 
possibility but unsure of which is the correct 
one. A fear of being seen as simple-minded or of 
being seen as disingenuous or dishonest is what 
produces the response.


But  we are all in that same boat. So what if I 
infer something incorrectly and someone corrects 
me? Would that make me look stupid? On the other 
hand it would make me more informed. We will all 
be better for it. Being exposed as disingenuous 
however is another matter.


So, give it a try. Read my lips ! Perish the 
thought about hurting my feelings by exposing my 
hidden intentions.




s-d

















Rgds,
Sandip

- Original Message 
From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Krishnendu 
Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan Mahanta 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:21:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

*** Why don't you give it a try and figure it 
out by yourself? As a highly trained whatever, 
you ought to be able to  do so. A high school 
graduate could.


But if you still can't, I am always here to help the needy. Just let me know.


 >Since you went right out of this country with 
gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never 
returning, >could you explain your pastime of 
continually making digs at India or Indians for 
all of Assam's ills.



*** Yes, I came along with our friend and one 
time netter, Digambar Pungta, sporting my 
baapoti-xahwn
gamosa, which, in time  even flew into 
outer-space, thanks to Mike Finke the 
Markharkhowa jowain of all older Kharkhowas in 
these shores.


Did you really have to ASK why I rattle 
desi-cages? I think I give you guys enough 
heartburn already. So , not to overdo it, I will 
pass on it for now.  But, but --- if it gives 
you headaches agonizing over it, do let me know. 
I am a kind-hearted person, always here to help.


 >I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you 
were not around but were gone long before that.





*** I can't help you  with the exact timing of 
the birth of ULFA, but, yes, I did leave India 
in 1970.  That however has nothing to do with my 
favorite pastime in assamnet.


:-)




At 12:01 AM -0700 8/17/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:


Dear Sondon Da,



Yes Please - We would like to hear why you have 
been forwarding articles from TOI or Indian 
express/Telegraph commenting about poverty in 
Bihar or rapes inside women's hostels in Delhi. 
If they dont concern Assam, why forward those 
articles or get heartburn from them?




Since you went right out of this country with 
gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never 
returning, could you explain your pastime of 
continually making digs at India or Indians for 
all of Assam's ills.




I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you were 
not around but were gone long before that.





Rgds,

Sandip







- Original Message 
From: Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: assam@assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:36:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

 >Printing articles

 of  Tavleen Singh
 criticizing Delhi does not do a damn thing for
 Assam.


So, let us know why you publish those Or for that
matter the news items on what Delhi or Mumbai police
is doing?

I don' t care

 what India is
 doing or when Indians are going to the moon or to
 hell in a
 hand-basket.


Then why cry hoarse on Indian Education System ...
you really do not care  right ??



 Can you or anybody else here explain why there is
 nothing useful or
 meaningful  to show for Rs. 300,000,000 a year for
 32,000,000 people
 of the region?


A couple of things off the head --- flyovers of
Guwahati,  Software Technology Park in Borjhar (though
there are no takers because of threat to
life/business), Tejpur University, the Golden
quadrilateral road network connecting Assam to rest of
India.
I know Health/Primary education etc remains concern
. but these matters are in State Govt's hand ,
why blame Delhi for these?  There have been umpteen
cases where funds allocated have been returned
unutilized and/or shared by top Assamese officials
with blessing of Dispu

Gogoi, ministers are B�deshi saviours: AASU

[Pradip Kumar Datta]

  Gogoi, ministers are B’deshi saviours: AASU

  By our Staff Reporter
GUWAHATI, Aug 21: The All Assam Students’ Union (AASU) today came down heavily 
on Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi and three of his ministerial colleagues — Himanta 
Biswa Sarma, Ripun Bora and Rockybul Hussain — and termed them as spokesmen of 
the Bangladeshis staying in the State.
Talking to newsmen in the city today, AASU president Sankar Prasad Rai, general 
secretary Tapan Kumar Gogoi and advisor Samujjal Bhattacharyya said that though 
they had not raised any demand for resignation of the Chief Minister and his 
ministerial colleagues, yet Gogoi, Sarma, Bora and Hussain should have tendered 
their resignation when none other than a Bangladeshi, who had entered Asom from 
Arunachal Pradesh recently, admitted before a magistrate that he was from 
Bangladesh. It may be mentioned here that Gogoi aired a public statement 
recently that he would quit politics if anybody could prove any person to be a 
Bangladeshi from among those who had entered Asom from Arunachal Pradesh. But 
one Jahed Ali (37), who had been handed over to the police in Sivasagar by the 
AASU, admitted before the magistrate there that he was from Bangladesh. The 
AASU leaders said that the admission by Jahed Ali before the magistrate punched 
holes in the Chief Minister’s claim that all those
 who had entered Asom from Arunachal Pradesh recently were Indians.
On the BJP’s stand that the Hindu immigrants from Bangladesh should be treated 
as refugees, but the Muslim immigrants from the neighbouring country should be 
sent back to Bangladesh, the AASU leaders said there should not be any 
categorization of Bangladeshis. “If the BJP wants to accord refugee status to 
Bangladeshi Hindus coming to India, let the party give them shelter in States 
under BJP’s rule,” the AASU leaders said.
The AASU leaders further said that Tarun Gogoi was treading the Hiteswar Saikia 
line on the Bangladeshi issue. “If Gogoi is sure that he came to power not with 
any Bangladeshi vote, what has restrained him from setting a deadline to all 
Bangladeshis who entered Asom after March 25, 1971 to the leave the State on 
their own, and act on them after the expiry of the deadline?” the AASU leaders 
asked, and added: “The State Government should keep the Bangladeshis entering 
Asom from the neighbouring States in detention camps and deport them as per the 
existing laws”.

   
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Re: [Assam] Gum Good for Teeth

[mc mahant]

Maybe Tamwol+PAAN+swun +Dhopat are better still.
Dig seriously.Let the world know and take note.
mm


Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:04:37 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Assam] Gum Good for Teeth
Is Xylitol found in any of the Indian plants used in Ayurveda?
Neem twigs are not sweet, in fact bitter, and they are used in India for 
brushing teeth. What chemical does it have?
Dilip
=
 
Scientists find ancient gum in Finland 



Mon Aug 20, 11:29 PM ET 

HELSINKI, Finland - Finns, who introduced a birch-tree sweetener for gum, have 
found that the habit of chewing sticky lumps dates back thousands of years. 
Last month, students in western Finland found a piece of Stone Age birch-bark 
tar, believed to have been used for chewing and to fix broken arrowheads or 
clay dishes, archaeologists said Monday. 
 
"Most likely the lump was used as an antique kind of chewing gum," said Sami 
Viljamaa, an archaeologist who led the dig near Oulu, some 380 miles north of 
the capital, Helsinki. "But its main purpose was to fix things."
Viljamaa said the piece of Neolithic gum was found among artifacts, like dishes 
and jewelry, in a Stone Age village at the Kierikki Stone Age Center. "It's 
somewhere between 5,500 and 6,000 years old," he said.
The ancient Finnish habit of chewing gum surged in the 1980s when Finnish 
scientists discovered that gum containing xylitol, a natural sweetener found in 
plant tissue including birch trees, prevents tooth decay. Schools began to give 
xylitol gum free to children after meals, and sales of chewing gum almost 
doubled during five years as xylitol's popularity grew.
The ancient gum was found by British student Sarah Pickin, who was assisted by 
four other students at the site, Viljamaa said. "They also found an amber ring 
and a slate arrowhead, which were great finds," he added.
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