[Assam] YT: India in 1947 -Aug 15

2007-09-23 Thread umesh sharma
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Re: [Assam] YT: Teachers' Day: St Mary's Assam

2007-09-23 Thread umesh sharma
earlier was wrong link pl try this one --good fest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs8GzOc3VVg

Cheers.

Umesh


umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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Umesh Sharma

Washington D.C. 

1-202-215-4328 [Cell]

Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

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http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)




www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )




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Umesh Sharma

Washington D.C. 

1-202-215-4328 [Cell]

Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)




www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )




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Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] Ram, Science and Religious Belief

2007-09-23 Thread Chan Mahanta

Greetings Dr. G. We meet again in Waterwatch.

I tried to understand what you are saying. But need more than a little help.

Perhaps we need to go back to the issue in hand, and not dwell on 
religion, faith, rationalism, scientists, so-called scientists, 
rationalists, so-called rationalists, devotees, so-called 
progressives,  secularism, pseudo-secularism and so forth.


All these are semantic evasive tactics to obfuscate and avoid dealing 
with the real issue: The need to evaluate the wisdom of destroying 
the sea-bed  features, RATIONALLY and deciding if it is good for not 
just India and ALL Indians, but all other peoples and creatures whose 
lives and livelihoods depend on the health of the bay/straits. Does 
not matter if the sea-bed features called Ramsethu, were naturally 
formed over millenia or  Hanuman-led and monkey-brigade-built as 
commissioned by Lord Ram himself. The latter is a manufactured 
controversy by irrational people. And the scheme to destroy Ramsethu 
is a ploy by  other irrational people to enrich a few at the cost of 
the many .


That is what is all about, wouldn't you think?

As a scientifically trained person ( pardon me if I am wrong, but so 
I presume), what would YOUR prescription be?


Regards.

cm












At 1:50 PM +0100 9/20/07, DR MC GEORGE wrote:

ATTn: Dear Friend
Why the so called scientists have ever tried to
find out the truth by analytical/statistical methods.
Usually these are the ways that the scientists try and
goes on trying.The Archeological Department could have
tried to see whether the structure has got any
engineering skill employed or not.The Mohanjodaro and
Harrappa findings were the result of such works.To
leave anything as myths and unscientific should have
some basis /reasonings.How the story came to be so
deeprooted in the minds of so many generations with
out any break is to be researched.Let the so called
rationalist thinkers/scientific people work it out and
come with an answer.Instead of that to pretend that
millions of devotees are following some myth as if the
so called progressives are the only intelligent ones
on earth is nothing but perversion.
Dr.M.C.George,Advocate,INFAM(IndianFarmersMovement)
--- Chan Mahanta mailto:cmahanta%40charter.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 There was an article in the Indian Express under
 the heading Ram, science and religious belief,
 by P.V. Indiresan, a former Director of IIT ,
 Chennai, which can be seen below. I responded to
 it to the Indian Express. But if past experience
 is any guide, it won't be posted either in the
 Letter to the Editor section or in the Feedback
 forum. Since it deals with the Ramsethu issue,
 even though it was never mentioned by the author,
 I thought Water Watch members might find it
 relevant.

 cm







 Dr. Indiresan spent a lot of time pretending to
 be singing the praises of scientific pursuits of
 the truth and rational thinking. But really he
 bares in this article, filled with inane
 arguments , his own inability to reconcile
 rational thinking expected of a man of his
 stature as a technocrat and educationist,
 supposedly excelling in inculcating an ethos of
 learning with a critical and analytical approach
 required of technical/scientific studies, with
 irrational dogmas camouflaged as a defence of
 Hindu 'sentiments' from an unfair and/or
 selective challenges to the irrationalities of
 the faith's myriad myths. Dr. Indiresan is
 attempting to have it both ways, sporting the
 aura of a rational technocrat while spouting
 irrational arguments in defense of 'feelings' and
 'sentiments'.

 Allow me to explain:


 The same holds good in the case of Ram too;
 there is no proof that he existed; neither is
 there any scientific proof that he did not
 exist. That is where #8216;rational#8217;

scientists drift

 outside the scientific path. They make
 assertions about matters of faith, forgetting
 their own principles. They can say, at the
 most, there is no proof that Ram was a real
 person. They cannot proceed further and assert
 that Ram was not a real person.


 *** Fair enough. Rationalists cannot prove or
 assert Lord Ram was NOT a real person. But what
 does that have to do with the issue at hand:
 Whether Ram-sethu was built by Ram or his
 minions? Should the likes of Dr. Indiresan , no
 doubt someone endowed with wisdoms that shallow
 rationalists are deprived of , NOT pursue the
 question to its logical end? Or would it amount
 to attacking a soft-target, thus out of bounds
 for the wise rationalist?

 *** Furthermore, a rational scientist /technocrat
 would NOT stop at that. She would also dig deeper
 to look at the REAL issue: Whether destroying
 the geological features of the sea-bed referred
 to as the Ram-sethu in Indian folklore is a
 prudent thing to do, considering its many
 ramifications that could be examined
 scientifically. Is he doing 

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2007-09-23 Thread Rini Kakati


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Re: [Assam] [asom] Re: From Tarun Vijay of the Organiser: Tears on the NE!

2007-09-23 Thread Ganesh C Bora
It is always good to have statistics, hard data. In this case, the information 
about change in demography of Assam can be found in Census of India 
http://www.censusindia.net/ and with RTI, one can also get previous years data. 
Election Commission can provide information about change of demography among 
voters (which more or less goes the same way as the population). The facts can 
be also gauged by the election results of Assam Assembly.

Now the question is: has the demography of Assam changed? For this answer, one 
should not hide behind statistics/hard data. And there is no mark for guessing 
the correct answer! People living in Assam knows it well.



- Original Message 
From: Sailaj Baruah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:07:16 AM
Subject: [asom] Re: From Tarun Vijay of the Organiser: Tears on the NE!

statistics collected by a reliable source-and if it is by a govt agency then 
all the better,definitely has its own relevance.Again while stating that some 
districts are bengali-dominated or muslim dominated by itself does not become 
relevant unless it can be shown that this was not the position say 10-20 years 
back,that such demographic change,if any,is because of migration from another 
country and so on. Any arguement to be meaningful has to be backed by hard 
facts and there will always be those who will doubt/question the veracity of 
any such claim.The time has come for setting aside emotions alone and taking a 
hard look at all available facts and data and 
conclusively prove that illegal migration is a major,major problem for the 
state/country and does not affect the assamese speaking population alone-the 
revealations in the hyderabad blasts is perhaps a pointer towards things to 
come.Problem is-who will bell the cat!




From: SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
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To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [asom] Re: From Tarun Vijay of the Organiser: Tears on the NE!
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:44:13 -0700 (PDT)

This is a good point!
 
However the question is, what would you do even if there were such an official 
statistic. Statistics say many districts/subdivisi ons in Assam are now Muslim 
majority and predominantly Bengali speaking (eg. hojai, dhubri, karimganj etc.) 
- but that is hotly contested by many of our own Assamnet members from this 
forum. So there is no agreement even on certain very basic and visible facts.
 
Rgds,
Sandip

- Original Message 
From: Sailaj Baruah [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:37:24 AM
Subject: [asom] Re: From Tarun Vijay of the Organiser: Tears on the NE!

Has any survey actually been done by the govt or any non-govt agency regarding 
the statement that many Bangladeshi- origin people in Assam who had earlier 
declared their mother-tongue to be Assamese have now declared their 
mother-tongue to be Bengali?

Its important to have authentic statistical information on such vital issues if 
we really want to impress upon the powers that be 

s.r.baruah
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/assamonlin e/message/ 3577 

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