Re: [Assam] Army firing in Kakopathar -politics, lynching Sonia Gandhi, army
Priyankoo-da,I agree killing of Ajit Mahanta was wrong but why did they not protest non violently only. As in the account given by Assam Tribune : http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40assamnet.org/msg03800.htmlsome of the instigators -from behind-- pushed people towards the police and lynched a couple of CRPF soldiers in their midst who had tried to pacify the mob. Killing one of the sodires while others escaped. The politicinas killed the soldiers from the back of the mob - while pushing others forward to face the bullets by police in retailiation.Haven't we seen it elsewhere. The politicians push people from the back -to set fire to themselves etc - while the backbenchers reap politicial mileage. A couple of years back in a student rally at Jaipur one of the college students set fire to himself. Later he recovered but said that someone else has poured petrol on him and set fire to him -- one of the student leaders -who sought political mileage out of the event.It was certainly wrong for GOA not to take adequate measures to pacify the local people on Ajit Mahanta's death --causing 20,000 people (as per national media) who later had gathered. It was very stupid of Sonia Gandhi to use that very day as the day to lauch a political campaign in the state. She promoted the image the national govt is only interested in politics and not in people's welfare. Instead of launching the elkection campaign she should have visted the area to pacify the people and avoid such largescale protests .Just my views.Umesh PS: Indian army is very uncouth is common knowledge. Even at Delhi train station the soldiers to frontlines regulalrly bully train drivers and passengers -to delay trains and declare whole (unreserved) bogies as only for army -throwing out poor passengers - I have been out myself many a times. Further, in Rajasthan desert also the India soldiers - on Indo-Pak border while in lined up for years - following the Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament of Dec 2002 -- they beat up many villagers and took away food items and goats for their own use. Some even molested girls.priyankoo sarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40assamnet.org/msg01433.html Why different?My postings were did not have anything to do with supporting or not supporting ULFA. The point is that why should innocent villagers like Mahanta be killed in the name of capturing ULFA. Why should a 75 year old man be shot in his head suspecting him as ULFA? These assembled people killed a CRPF soldier by stoning him to death, why and how. Did the soldiers run away or what? http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1410548.cmsRead the newspapers from Assam. Janaxadharan clearly mentions how the two CRPF people were killed in Assam Police firing. I hardly trust the Indian newspapers in presenting issues pertaining to Assam. A similar incident happened in Afghanistan when some Afghans were shot dead by their police last week when they attempted to advance towards a US army base - in protest against cartoons in Danish papers.So what? Does that imply that incident in Kakopothar is justified?Dex mathoeta dharona,thikonar xexxari... The mostimportant thingin lifeis neverto forgetwho youare... http://plaza.ufl.edu/priyanku Umesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of 2005 Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Army firing in Kakopathar -politics, lynching Sonia Gandhi, army
Umesh read down the same article you sent me. you will find: However, according to some other sources, firing was ordered instantly and without any provocation. Some organizations that visited Kakopathar today alleged that the incident could have been averted if proper measures were taken in time. As per Dr Arun Sharma, the local MP the State Government is fully responsible for the incident in which innocent people were killed by the security personnel. The State government, according to him, should have pacified the people who resorted to road blockade in protest of killing of innocent villager Ajit Mahanta in Army custody. The present government had also allowed the Army to continue the torture of innocent villagers in the name of counter insurgency. Sri Pradyut Bordoloi who came to visit Kakopathar and the Dirak area, which falls under his constituency, said that the incident was most unfortunate. blah blah blah blah On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 umesh sharma wrote : Priyankoo-da, I agree killing of Ajit Mahanta was wrong but why did they not protest non violently only. As in the account given by Assam Tribune : http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40assamnet.org/msg03800.html some of the instigators -from behind-- pushed people towards the police and lynched a couple of CRPF soldiers in their midst who had tried to pacify the mob. Killing one of the sodires while others escaped. The politicinas killed the soldiers from the back of the mob - while pushing others forward to face the bullets by police in retailiation. Haven't we seen it elsewhere. The politicians push people from the back -to set fire to themselves etc - while the backbenchers reap politicial mileage. A couple of years back in a student rally at Jaipur one of the college students set fire to himself. Later he recovered but said that someone else has poured petrol on him and set fire to him -- one of the student leaders -who sought political mileage out of the event. It was certainly wrong for GOA not to take adequate measures to pacify the local people on Ajit Mahanta's death --causing 20,000 people (as per national media) who later had gathered. It was very stupid of Sonia Gandhi to use that very day as the day to lauch a political campaign in the state. She promoted the image the national govt is only interested in politics and not in people's welfare . Instead of launching the elkection campaign she should have visted the area to pacify the people and avoid such largescale protests . Just my views. Umesh PS: Indian army is very uncouth is common knowledge. Even at Delhi train station the soldiers to frontlines regulalrly bully train drivers and passengers -to delay trains and declare whole (unreserved) bogies as only for army -throwing out poor passengers - I have been out myself many a times. Further, in Rajasthan desert also the India soldiers - on Indo-Pak border while in lined up for years - following the Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament of Dec 2002 -- they beat up many villagers and took away food items and goats for their own use. Some even molested girls. priyankoo sarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40assamnet.org/msg01433.html Why different? My postings were did not have anything to do with supporting or not supporting ULFA. The point is that why should innocent villagers like Mahanta be killed in the name of capturing ULFA. Why should a 75 year old man be shot in his head suspecting him as ULFA? These assembled people killed a CRPF soldier by stoning him to death, why and how. Did the soldiers run away or what? http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1410548.cms Read the newspapers from Assam. Janaxadharan clearly mentions how the two CRPF people were killed in Assam Police firing. I hardly trust the Indian newspapers in presenting issues pertaining to Assam. A similar incident happened in Afghanistan when some Afghans were shot dead by their police last week when they attempted to advance towards a US army base - in protest against cartoons in Danish papers. So what? Does that imply that incident in Kakopothar is justified? Dex matho eta dharona, thikonar xex xari... The most important thing in life is never to forget who you are... http://plaza.ufl.edu/priyanku Umesh Sharma 5121 Lackawanna ST College Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 - Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Dex mathoeta dharona,thikonar xexxari... The mostimportant thingin lifeis neverto forgetwho youare... http://plaza.ufl.edu/priyanku ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Army firing in Kakopathar -politics, lynching Sonia Gandhi, army
Priyankoo-da,It is ofocurse true that the incident could have been averted had the GOA and Sonia present then in the state - had handled it properly. It is also true that armed soldiers got killed -earlier news-reports were that some soldiers had got injured - which might have been cooked up - but you can't cook up the story of a dead soldier's body. Something happened which was very violent.Look at my other post for Indian army.Umeshpriyankoo sarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Umesh read down the same article you sent me. you will find:"However, according to some other sources, firing was ordered instantly and without any provocation. Some organizations that visited Kakopathar today alleged that the incident could have been averted if proper measures were taken in time. As per Dr Arun Sharma, the local MP the State Government is fully responsible for the incident in which innocent people were killed by the security personnel. The State government, according to him, should have pacified the people who resorted to road blockade in protest of killing of innocent villager Ajit Mahanta in Army custody. The present government had also allowed the Army to continue the torture of innocent villagers in the name of counter insurgency. Sri Pradyut Bordoloi who came to visit Kakopathar and the Dirak area, which falls under his constituency, said that the incident was most unfortunate. blah blah blah blah"On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 umesh sharma wrote :Priyankoo-da, I agree killing of Ajit Mahanta was wrong but why did they not protest non violently only. As in the account given by Assam Tribune : http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40assamnet.org/msg03800.html some of the instigators -from behind-- pushed people towards the police and lynched a couple of CRPF soldiers in their midst who had tried to pacify the mob. Killing one of the sodires while others escaped. The politicinas killed the soldiers from the back of the mob - while pushing others forward to face the bullets by police in retailiation. Haven't we seen it elsewhere. The politicians push people from the back -to set fire to themselves etc - while the backbenchers reap politicial mileage. A couple of years back in a student rally at Jaipur one of the college students set fire to himself. Later he recovered but said that someone else has poured petrol on him and set fire to him -- one of the student leaders -who sought political mileage out of the event. It was certainly wrong for GOA not to take adequate measures to pacify the local people on Ajit Mahanta's death --causing 20,000 people (as per national media) who later had gathered. It was very stupid of Sonia Gandhi to use that very day as the day to lauch a political campaign in the state. She promoted the image the national govt is only interested in politics and not in people's welfare . Instead of launching the elkection campaign she should have visted the area to pacify the people and avoid such largescale protests . Just my views. Umesh PS: Indian army is very uncouth is common knowledge. Even at Delhi train station the soldiers to frontlines regulalrly bully train drivers and passengers -to delay trains and declare whole (unreserved) bogies as only for army -throwing out poor passengers - I have been out myself many a times. Further, in Rajasthan desert also the India soldiers - on Indo-Pak border while in lined up for years - following the Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament of Dec 2002 -- they beat up many villagers and took away food items and goats for their own use. Some even molested girls.priyankoo sarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40assamnet.org/msg01433.html Why different?My postings were did not have anything to do with supporting or not supporting ULFA. The point is that why should innocent villagers like Mahanta be killed in the name of capturing ULFA. Why should a 75 year old man be shot in his head suspecting him as ULFA? These assembled people killed a CRPF soldier by stoning him to death, why and how. Did the soldiers run away or what? http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1410548.cmsRead the newspapers from Assam. Janaxadharan clearly mentions how the two CRPF people were killed in Assam Police firing. I hardly trust the Indian newspapers in presenting issues pertaining to Assam. A similar incident happened in Afghanistan when some Afghans were shot dead by their police last week when they attempted to advance towards a US army base - in protest against cartoons in Danish papers.So what? Does that imply that incident in Kakopothar is justified?Dex matho eta dharona, thikonar xex xari...The most important thing in life is never to forget who you are...http://plaza.ufl.edu/priyankuUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of
