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At 7:48 AM -0800 11/19/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: It is time to turn to private sector for airport management in India. I read an article about an airport in Kerala that is being managed under private sector and how clean the airport is. MANAGEMENT or OWNERSHIP? If it is management, how does the competitive forces of the free market system operate? If the managers fail to deliver can it be replaced ? Imagine IGI management handed over to Tata Consultancy overnight or over a year and its woes disappear like a bad dream! Private sector management of airports MAY have merit. But in the absence of institutional checks and balances maintained by the PUBLIC, the government, it is merely a license to steal from the many toi enrich a few. If it is OWNERSHIP, then why should a private profit making entity get the monopoly to run a public service like an airport ( or a sanitation system or water supply), without public oversight? And talking of effective PUBLIC oversight , if it were available in Indian governance, why would IGI or Mumbai Int'l airports be in the sorry states they have been? *** Point therefore is that to avoid tackling India's failed governance with 'free-market' slogans is merely another attempt at evading what informed Indians ought to know they are condemned with but are unable or unwilling or both to determine out why and doing something about it. How about assigning the airport management to Lalu Yadav? Apparently he made a lot of improvements in the railways. Dilip = Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare ? Has??? It has always been so. Just getting worse. I was there a month ago. The parking lot is a nightmare. We could not push our luggage loaded carts to the car in the parking lot, because of the unbelievable pot-holes, all the way. Had to lift the cart up, with the help of all the young men waiting around for the opportunity to help out. Not that I grudge them. But IGI being the front door to the capital of a super-power wanna-be, the state of affairs IN and AROUND the airport and its amenities ( if one could call it that) boggled the mind. Someone explained a new parking lot is being built. I will believe it when I see it. All the renovation work going on in the passenger areas tell a tale of appalling infrastructure behind the ripped out finishes. No wonder the ceilings keep falling. And that tunnel out of the international arrivals area! It has no parallel. What seems to be India's problem anyway? But on a the brighter side, I was pleasantly surprised by a CLEANER Delhi, at least at the upscale neighborhoods like Defense Colony . The sidewalks were swept, no plastic bags and paper on the plants flanking them. The plants looked maintained. The taxi driver explained it is the upcoming Asian Games ( or is it the Commonwealth Games). It was a different story however, on the way to IIT Delhi. cm Click! IGI official escapes roof collapse 15 Nov 2007, 0508 hrs IST,TNN Print SaveEMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare not only for passengers but also for those who are working there. On Wednesday morning, a lady officer had a miraculous escape when the roof of her newly renovated room collapsed on her. Aman Saini, assistant general manager of terminal-II, was working on her computer about 10.30 am when the false ceiling came crashing down, along with the airconditioning ducts. A senior official of the airport had to pull her out from under the debris. Even as preparations are on to make travelling more convenient during the foggy months, frequent complaints by people on the degraded condition of the airport at present has forced the ministry of civil aviation to sit up and take notice. Sources said that based on the complaints on dysfunctional toilets and other issues sent to the ministry, it was planning to conduct a surprise check at the airport in the near future. While Delhi International Airport (P) Limited (DIAL) officials tried to downplay the incident and said that only a single panel had fallen and the official wasn't hurt, sources revealed that officials were appalled at the condition of the airport. The airport manager's room is newly constructed and if this is what happens to renovated rooms, one can imagine how it is elsewhere, said an official. We are lucky that the Amin escaped with scratches but to have the entire roof collapse on one's head can be a major shock and could have turned very ugly, he added. The old airport manager's room was recently demolished and the new one set up outside terminal-II. Strangely, with renovation on, there is no access to the room from inside and can only be reached from the city side. The room where the roof collapsed was a little way behind the main structure which
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Unlike what some informed people think, India has strong regulatory bodies for many services . for Telephone (including cellphone, broadband etc) there is TRAI, for Insurance, there is IRDA and so on. People who have dealt with these regulatory bodies (uninformed and simple minded people :) ) know that these are very effective. I have used TRAI to resolve issues with Cell Phone and Banking Ombudsman to resolve my issues with Credit Card billing and it is smoother then dealing with Department of Insurance in US. Also, private ownership does NOT necessarily mean monopoly or license to steal... good example is cell phone providers or Air Lines And where are the checks and balances when Walmart forces closure of mon and pop shops On a different note, the Mumbai Domestic airport (Santacruz), after its recent renovation have been excellent. This is being done as a private-public joint venture. The congested Sahar international still resembles the old JFK though. It is time to turn to private sector for airport management in India. I read an article about an airport in Kerala that is being managed under private sector and how clean the airport is. MANAGEMENT or OWNERSHIP? If it is management, how does the competitive forces of the free market system operate? If the managers fail to deliver can it be replaced ? Imagine IGI management handed over to Tata Consultancy overnight or over a year and its woes disappear like a bad dream! Private sector management of airports MAY have merit. But in the absence of institutional checks and balances maintained by the PUBLIC, the government, it is merely a license to steal from the many toi enrich a few. If it is OWNERSHIP, then why should a private profit making entity get the monopoly to run a public service like an airport ( or a sanitation system or water supply), without public oversight? And talking of effective PUBLIC oversight , if it were available in Indian governance, why would IGI or Mumbai Int'l airports be in the sorry states they have been? *** Point therefore is that to avoid tackling India's failed governance with 'free-market' slogans is merely another attempt at evading what informed Indians ought to know they are condemned with but are unable or unwilling or both to determine out why and doing something about it. How about assigning the airport management to Lalu Yadav? Apparently he made a lot of improvements in the railways. Dilip = Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net wrote: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare ? Has??? It has always been so. Just getting worse. I was there a month ago. The parking lot is a nightmare. We could not push our luggage loaded carts to the car in the parking lot, because of the unbelievable pot-holes, all the way. Had to lift the cart up, with the help of all the young men waiting around for the opportunity to help out. Not that I grudge them. But IGI being the front door to the capital of a super-power wanna-be, the state of affairs IN and AROUND the airport and its amenities ( if one could call it that) boggled the mind. Someone explained a new parking lot is being built. I will believe it when I see it. All the renovation work going on in the passenger areas tell a tale of appalling infrastructure behind the ripped out finishes. No wonder the ceilings keep falling. And that tunnel out of the international arrivals area! It has no parallel. What seems to be India's problem anyway? But on a the brighter side, I was pleasantly surprised by a CLEANER Delhi, at least at the upscale neighborhoods like Defense Colony . The sidewalks were swept, no plastic bags and paper on the plants flanking them. The plants looked maintained. The taxi driver explained it is the upcoming Asian Games ( or is it the Commonwealth Games). It was a different story however, on the way to IIT Delhi. cm Click! IGI official escapes roof collapse 15 Nov 2007, 0508 hrs IST,TNN Print SaveEMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare not only for passengers but also for those who are working there. On Wednesday morning, a lady officer had a miraculous escape when the roof of her newly renovated room collapsed on her. Aman Saini, assistant general manager of terminal-II, was working on her computer about 10.30 am when the false ceiling came crashing down, along with the airconditioning ducts. A senior official of the airport had to pull her out from under the debris. Even as preparations are on to make travelling more convenient during the foggy months, frequent complaints by people on the degraded condition of the airport at present has forced the ministry of civil aviation to sit up and take notice. Sources said that based on the complaints on dysfunctional toilets and other issues sent to the ministry, it was planning to
Re: [Assam] From ToI/IGI Airport
It is time to turn to private sector for airport management in India. I read an article about an airport in Kerala that is being managed under private sector and how clean the airport is. How about assigning the airport management to Lalu Yadav? Apparently he made a lot of improvements in the railways. Dilip = Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare ? Has??? It has always been so. Just getting worse. I was there a month ago. The parking lot is a nightmare. We could not push our luggage loaded carts to the car in the parking lot, because of the unbelievable pot-holes, all the way. Had to lift the cart up, with the help of all the young men waiting around for the opportunity to help out. Not that I grudge them. But IGI being the front door to the capital of a super-power wanna-be, the state of affairs IN and AROUND the airport and its amenities ( if one could call it that) boggled the mind. Someone explained a new parking lot is being built. I will believe it when I see it. All the renovation work going on in the passenger areas tell a tale of appalling infrastructure behind the ripped out finishes. No wonder the ceilings keep falling. And that tunnel out of the international arrivals area! It has no parallel. What seems to be India's problem anyway? But on a the brighter side, I was pleasantly surprised by a CLEANER Delhi, at least at the upscale neighborhoods like Defense Colony . The sidewalks were swept, no plastic bags and paper on the plants flanking them. The plants looked maintained. The taxi driver explained it is the upcoming Asian Games ( or is it the Commonwealth Games). It was a different story however, on the way to IIT Delhi. cm Click! IGI official escapes roof collapse 15 Nov 2007, 0508 hrs IST,TNN PrintSave EMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare not only for passengers but also for those who are working there. On Wednesday morning, a lady officer had a miraculous escape when the roof of her newly renovated room collapsed on her. Aman Saini, assistant general manager of terminal-II, was working on her computer about 10.30 am when the false ceiling came crashing down, along with the airconditioning ducts. A senior official of the airport had to pull her out from under the debris. Even as preparations are on to make travelling more convenient during the foggy months, frequent complaints by people on the degraded condition of the airport at present has forced the ministry of civil aviation to sit up and take notice. Sources said that based on the complaints on dysfunctional toilets and other issues sent to the ministry, it was planning to conduct a surprise check at the airport in the near future. While Delhi International Airport (P) Limited (DIAL) officials tried to downplay the incident and said that only a single panel had fallen and the official wasn't hurt, sources revealed that officials were appalled at the condition of the airport. The airport manager's room is newly constructed and if this is what happens to renovated rooms, one can imagine how it is elsewhere, said an official. We are lucky that the Amin escaped with scratches but to have the entire roof collapse on one's head can be a major shock and could have turned very ugly, he added. The old airport manager's room was recently demolished and the new one set up outside terminal-II. Strangely, with renovation on, there is no access to the room from inside and can only be reached from the city side. The room where the roof collapsed was a little way behind the main structure which is not frequented by people often. According to sources, the condition of the airport, specially during renovation, has made travelling a complete hassle. Recently, a passenger at the international departure terminal had a part of the false ceiling collapse on her head. She too, luckily escaped with minor injuries. Cases of people tripping over loose tiles and slippery floors is also becoming common. Sources also revealed that only one ladies' toilet was functional at the international departure terminal, and that too on the lower level. The maintenance of toilets at the international airport is with AAI and there are some issues between the GMR Group and AAI employees that is aggravating the problem, said sources. News on the airside is no better. Recently, civil aviation director general Kanu Gohain took a tour of the operations area at the airport to see the conditions after the recent spate of accidents. He is learnt to have reprimanded eight drivers who were found to be driving worse than Blueline drivers. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Lalu Yadav? Apparently he made a lot of improvements Lalu is a lovable mascot.His theatrical actions were backed up by a dramatic I'm the Boss- folksyCM air.At the end he is a good ,peoles' man. And he shows up like a village Dada at a Bahaona if anything was happening in any slum/Mandir/under a tree!. 1000's Rail Exec,s do the profit-making clearings-up. AS SOON he becameRail Min, he Dared to personally break up Corruption Rackets Rampant at Rail Goods booking offices where the 2000/-initial deposit was almost never returned when finally Wagon was being loaded. The customer took the pound of flesh by demanding showing less weight to carry-hence less booking cost. Rail Co. lost-railmen gained!!Booking staff had a valid alibi--none of rail weighbridges were working. He touched and rectified 50% at terminals. Filth is gone . He is at home anywhere-and loves to show off in folksy Dehati style. English--not an issue. He is everywhere. He keeps his head intact. His net aim-return to Patna as King.Although he stated in Parliament once I shall be PM even for a day He is not wasting money. He rakes in and loves to boost the bottom line. He may be able to clean up Airports.But the never-happy Aircrew demanding European wages will bog him down. These may not toe his line.He may not be a success in Air/airports/Aviation mess. mm Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:48:56 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] From ToI/IGI Airport It is time to turn to private sector for airport management in India. I read an article about an airport in Kerala that is being managed under private sector and how clean the airport is. How about assigning the airport management to Lalu Yadav? Apparently he made a lot of improvements in the railways. Dilip =Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare ? Has??? It has always been so. Just getting worse. I was there a month ago. The parking lot is a nightmare. We could not push our luggage loaded carts to the car in the parking lot, because of the unbelievable pot-holes, all the way. Had to lift the cart up, with the help of all the young men waiting around for the opportunity to help out. Not that I grudge them. But IGI being the front door to the capital of a super-power wanna-be, the state of affairs IN and AROUND the airport and its amenities ( if one could call it that) boggled the mind. Someone explained a new parking lot is being built. I will believe it when I see it. All the renovation work going on in the passenger areas tell a tale of appalling infrastructure behind the ripped out finishes. No wonder the ceilings keep falling. And that tunnel out of the international arrivals area! It has no parallel. What seems to be India's problem anyway? But on a the brighter side, I was pleasantly surprised by a CLEANER Delhi, at least at the upscale neighborhoods like Defense Colony . The sidewalks were swept, no plastic bags and paper on the plants flanking them. The plants looked maintained. The taxi driver explained it is the upcoming Asian Games ( or is it the Commonwealth Games). It was a different story however, on the way to IIT Delhi. cm Click!IGI official escapes roof collapse15 Nov 2007, 0508 hrs IST,TNN Print Save EMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare not only for passengers but also for those who are working there.On Wednesday morning, a lady officer had a miraculous escape when the roof of her newly renovated room collapsed on her. Aman Saini, assistant general manager of terminal-II, was working on her computer about 10.30 am when the false ceiling came crashing down, along with the airconditioning ducts. A senior official of the airport had to pull her out from under the debris.Even as preparations are on to make travelling more convenient during the foggy months, frequent complaints by people on the degraded condition of the airport at present has forced the ministry of civil aviation to sit up and take notice.Sources said that based on the complaints on dysfunctional toilets and other issues sent to the ministry, it was planning to conduct a surprise check at the airport in the near future.While Delhi International Airport (P) Limited (DIAL) officials tried to downplay the incident and said that only a single panel had fallen and the official wasn't hurt, sources revealed that officials were appalled at the condition of the airport.The airport manager's room is newly constructed and if this is what happens to renovated rooms, one can imagine how it is elsewhere, said an official.We are lucky that the Amin escaped with scratches but to have the entire roof collapse on one's head can be a major shock and could have turned very ugly, he added.The old airport manager's room was recently demolished and the new one set
Re: [Assam] From ToI/IGI Airport
This I will agree with. IGI airport is just crap. Regards, Sandip - Original Message From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:42:36 PM Subject: [Assam] From ToI/IGI Airport Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare ? Has??? It has always been so. Just getting worse. I was there a month ago. The parking lot is a nightmare. We could not push our luggage loaded carts to the car in the parking lot, because of the unbelievable pot-holes, all the way. Had to lift the cart up, with the help of all the young men waiting around for the opportunity to help out. Not that I grudge them. But IGI being the front door to the capital of a super-power wanna-be, the state of affairs IN and AROUND the airport and its amenities ( if one could call it that) boggled the mind. Someone explained a new parking lot is being built. I will believe it when I see it. All the renovation work going on in the passenger areas tell a tale of appalling infrastructure behind the ripped out finishes. No wonder the ceilings keep falling. And that tunnel out of the international arrivals area! It has no parallel. What seems to be India's problem anyway? But on a the brighter side, I was pleasantly surprised by a CLEANER Delhi, at least at the upscale neighborhoods like Defense Colony . The sidewalks were swept, no plastic bags and paper on the plants flanking them. The plants looked maintained. The taxi driver explained it is the upcoming Asian Games ( or is it the Commonwealth Games). It was a different story however, on the way to IIT Delhi. cm Click! IGI official escapes roof collapse 15 Nov 2007, 0508 hrs IST,TNN Print SaveEMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare not only for passengers but also for those who are working there. On Wednesday morning, a lady officer had a miraculous escape when the roof of her newly renovated room collapsed on her. Aman Saini, assistant general manager of terminal-II, was working on her computer about 10.30 am when the false ceiling came crashing down, along with the airconditioning ducts. A senior official of the airport had to pull her out from under the debris. Even as preparations are on to make travelling more convenient during the foggy months, frequent complaints by people on the degraded condition of the airport at present has forced the ministry of civil aviation to sit up and take notice. Sources said that based on the complaints on dysfunctional toilets and other issues sent to the ministry, it was planning to conduct a surprise check at the airport in the near future. While Delhi International Airport (P) Limited (DIAL) officials tried to downplay the incident and said that only a single panel had fallen and the official wasn't hurt, sources revealed that officials were appalled at the condition of the airport. The airport manager's room is newly constructed and if this is what happens to renovated rooms, one can imagine how it is elsewhere, said an official. We are lucky that the Amin escaped with scratches but to have the entire roof collapse on one's head can be a major shock and could have turned very ugly, he added. The old airport manager's room was recently demolished and the new one set up outside terminal-II. Strangely, with renovation on, there is no access to the room from inside and can only be reached from the city side. The room where the roof collapsed was a little way behind the main structure which is not frequented by people often. According to sources, the condition of the airport, specially during renovation, has made travelling a complete hassle. Recently, a passenger at the international departure terminal had a part of the false ceiling collapse on her head. She too, luckily escaped with minor injuries. Cases of people tripping over loose tiles and slippery floors is also becoming common. Sources also revealed that only one ladies' toilet was functional at the international departure terminal, and that too on the lower level. The maintenance of toilets at the international airport is with AAI and there are some issues between the GMR Group and AAI employees that is aggravating the problem, said sources. News on the airside is no better. Recently, civil aviation director general Kanu Gohain took a tour of the operations area at the airport to see the conditions after the recent spate of accidents. He is learnt to have reprimanded eight drivers who were found to be driving worse than Blueline drivers. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare ? Has??? It has always been so. Just getting worse. I was there a month ago. The parking lot is a nightmare. We could not push our luggage loaded carts to the car in the parking lot, because of the unbelievable pot-holes, all the way. Had to lift the cart up, with the help of all the young men waiting around for the opportunity to help out. Not that I grudge them. But IGI being the front door to the capital of a super-power wanna-be, the state of affairs IN and AROUND the airport and its amenities ( if one could call it that) boggled the mind. Someone explained a new parking lot is being built. I will believe it when I see it. All the renovation work going on in the passenger areas tell a tale of appalling infrastructure behind the ripped out finishes. No wonder the ceilings keep falling. And that tunnel out of the international arrivals area! It has no parallel. What seems to be India's problem anyway? But on a the brighter side, I was pleasantly surprised by a CLEANER Delhi, at least at the upscale neighborhoods like Defense Colony . The sidewalks were swept, no plastic bags and paper on the plants flanking them. The plants looked maintained. The taxi driver explained it is the upcoming Asian Games ( or is it the Commonwealth Games). It was a different story however, on the way to IIT Delhi. cm Click! IGI official escapes roof collapse 15 Nov 2007, 0508 hrs IST,TNN Print SaveEMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: Delhi's IGI Airport has become a nightmare not only for passengers but also for those who are working there. On Wednesday morning, a lady officer had a miraculous escape when the roof of her newly renovated room collapsed on her. Aman Saini, assistant general manager of terminal-II, was working on her computer about 10.30 am when the false ceiling came crashing down, along with the airconditioning ducts. A senior official of the airport had to pull her out from under the debris. Even as preparations are on to make travelling more convenient during the foggy months, frequent complaints by people on the degraded condition of the airport at present has forced the ministry of civil aviation to sit up and take notice. Sources said that based on the complaints on dysfunctional toilets and other issues sent to the ministry, it was planning to conduct a surprise check at the airport in the near future. While Delhi International Airport (P) Limited (DIAL) officials tried to downplay the incident and said that only a single panel had fallen and the official wasn't hurt, sources revealed that officials were appalled at the condition of the airport. The airport manager's room is newly constructed and if this is what happens to renovated rooms, one can imagine how it is elsewhere, said an official. We are lucky that the Amin escaped with scratches but to have the entire roof collapse on one's head can be a major shock and could have turned very ugly, he added. The old airport manager's room was recently demolished and the new one set up outside terminal-II. Strangely, with renovation on, there is no access to the room from inside and can only be reached from the city side. The room where the roof collapsed was a little way behind the main structure which is not frequented by people often. According to sources, the condition of the airport, specially during renovation, has made travelling a complete hassle. Recently, a passenger at the international departure terminal had a part of the false ceiling collapse on her head. She too, luckily escaped with minor injuries. Cases of people tripping over loose tiles and slippery floors is also becoming common. Sources also revealed that only one ladies' toilet was functional at the international departure terminal, and that too on the lower level. The maintenance of toilets at the international airport is with AAI and there are some issues between the GMR Group and AAI employees that is aggravating the problem, said sources. News on the airside is no better. Recently, civil aviation director general Kanu Gohain took a tour of the operations area at the airport to see the conditions after the recent spate of accidents. He is learnt to have reprimanded eight drivers who were found to be driving worse than Blueline drivers.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
