Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

2005-09-02 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk
but Not


At 9:00 PM +0100 9/2/05, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
 
I'm sorry but I do not have access to
Cable TV like you do.



 My heart goes out for deprivation U :-). That is double
trouble. You made your assessment with even less information than I
thought you had. Not a good tack if you asked me.



But my old friend, the Large Animal Shrink Dr. Tilok Hatimuria
tells me that
is not where the problem is. It is apparently in the receptors in
the visual and aural centers of your psyche. Some of them are either
partially shut down or on temporarily disabled mode, that allows
certain information to register and others to be refused entry. It is
a kind of selective information processing in the field of LAS. Kind
of a neurological semi-conductor array I  imagine.

But not to worry, you can reactivate the receptors with a tad bit
of extra interest in listening and observing :-).

Take care



 Only after writing me earlier mail
I was able to see CNN today at Montgomery college and realize that
most of the victims were poor and black. However, I do not see any
reason for your accusations of my supposed bias. Maybe it is how you
stereotype me.
 
Umesh
 
PS: I like to analyse and find some
solution -- you did not suggest any solution -- here is
mine:
The school system of such places should
have programs for not only the students but also community members ---
simulation exercises about how to respond in case of such calamities.
Esp in coastal areas where such cyclones etc regularly
occur.
 I'm told that in schools kids have
a fire drill (saw a Hollywood movie about Schwartzernegger as a school
teacher -showing that).
 


Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
U:

>Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere
school
>level >education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and
have
>money enough to buy >TVs and hire buses to leave the city.
Still
>about 100,000 remained in the city >and thousands are supposed
to be
>dead.


Dilip explained some of it.

But do you not realize, even after watching all that news
coverage,
that not all or even the most ( I don't buy Dilip's
characterization
here--even though I have watched perhaps 30 minutes of TV coverage
so
far) in serious trouble are either the able bodied, or the
economically able ?

Only thing you did not throw in this time was your racial / gender
or
religious stereotyping.

Umesh, it is about time, more so after a year in Harvard, that
before
you shoot off these seat-of-! the-pants conclusions and
judgements,
exercise your reasoning abilities a tad bit more.

Good luck,

c-da







At 6:09 PM +0100 9/2/05, umesh sharma wrote:
>C-da,
>
>It is surprising that so many people are dying even after the
>announcement that ALL must leave the cities being hit by
Katrina.
>Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere
school
>level education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have
money
>enough to buy TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still
about
>100,000 remained in the city and thousands are supposed to be
dead.
>
>Umesh
>

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Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

2005-09-02 Thread umesh sharma
Dilip-da,
 
I think your analysis is very correct. Esp about the pictures of cars still in NO under water and people not leaving town. There are some victims coming to DC and a friend from college has asked for volunteers next week for Red Cross. I hope to do something to help.
 
Umesh
 
Dilip-da wrote: 
The first group is the majority since you can see in pictures that a large number of cars are still in the city under flood water .Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Umesh,
There are two reasons for the able bodied people staying behind.
Some did not take the warnings seriously despite the Louisiana governor "begging" people to leave New Orleans. I read the story of tourists flying into N.O. on Saturday just before the hurricane landed.
Others did not have the means to leave - no cars or no money for gas.
The first group is the majority since you can see in pictures that a large number of cars are still in the city under flood water .
 
Anyway, Texas as a neighbor is doing all it can by opening all large public places to the victims. Many Houston businesses are also hiring some of the victims to let them settle in Houston. The Houston Mayor estimates there are 100,000 victims sheltered in Metro Houston. Read today's Houston Chronicle to find out about the effort in Houston -http://www.chron.com. Houstonians are doing as much as possible, through donations and volunteer work.
 
Dilipdaumesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

C-da,
 
It is surprising that so many people are dying even after the announcement that ALL must leave the cities being hit by Katrina. Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school level education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have money enough to buy TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still about 100,000 remained in the city and thousands are supposed to be dead.
 
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Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

2005-09-02 Thread umesh sharma
C-da,
 
I'm sorry but I do not have access to Cable TV like you do. Only after writing me earlier mail I was able to see CNN today at Montgomery college and realize that most of the victims were poor and black. However, I do not see any reason for your accusations of my supposed bias. Maybe it is how you stereotype me.
 
Umesh
 
PS: I like to analyse and find some solution -- you did not suggest any solution -- here is mine: 
The school system of such places should have programs for not only the students but also community members --- simulation exercises about how to respond in case of such calamities. Esp in coastal areas where such cyclones etc regularly occur.
 I'm told that in schools kids have a fire drill (saw a Hollywood movie about Schwartzernegger as a school teacher -showing that). 
 
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
U:>Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school >level >education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have >money enough to buy >TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still >about 100,000 remained in the city >and thousands are supposed to be >dead.Dilip explained some of it.But do you not realize, even after watching all that news coverage, that not all or even the most ( I don't buy Dilip's characterization here--even though I have watched perhaps 30 minutes of TV coverage so far) in serious trouble are either the able bodied, or the economically able ?Only thing you did not throw in this time was your racial / gender or religious stereotyping.Umesh, it is about time, more so after a year in Harvard, that before you shoot off these seat-of-the-pants
 conclusions and judgements, exercise your reasoning abilities a tad bit more.Good luck,c-daAt 6:09 PM +0100 9/2/05, umesh sharma wrote:>C-da,>>It is surprising that so many people are dying even after the >announcement that ALL must leave the cities being hit by Katrina. >Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school >level education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have money >enough to buy TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still about >100,000 remained in the city and thousands are supposed to be dead.>>Umesh>___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

2005-09-02 Thread Chan Mahanta
U:

>Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school 
>level >education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have 
>money enough to buy >TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still 
>about 100,000 remained in the city >and thousands are supposed to be 
>dead.


Dilip explained some of it.

But do you not realize, even after watching all that news coverage, 
that not all or even the most ( I don't buy Dilip's characterization 
here--even though I have watched perhaps 30 minutes of TV coverage so 
far) in serious trouble are either  the able bodied, or the 
economically able ?

Only thing you did not throw in this time was your racial / gender or 
religious stereotyping.

Umesh, it is about time, more so after a year in Harvard, that before 
you shoot off these seat-of-the-pants  conclusions and judgements, 
exercise your reasoning abilities a tad bit more.

Good luck,

c-da







At 6:09 PM +0100 9/2/05, umesh sharma wrote:
>C-da,
>
>It is surprising that so many people are dying even after the 
>announcement that ALL must leave the cities being hit by Katrina. 
>Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school 
>level education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have money 
>enough to buy TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still about 
>100,000 remained in the city and thousands are supposed to be dead.
>
>Umesh
>

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Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

2005-09-02 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka

Umesh,
There are two reasons for the able bodied people staying behind.
Some did not take the warnings seriously despite the Louisiana governor "begging" people to leave New Orleans. I read the story of tourists flying into N.O. on Saturday just before the hurricane landed.
Others did not have the means to leave - no cars or no money for gas.
The first group is the majority since you can see in pictures that a large number of cars are still in the city under flood water .
 
Anyway, Texas as a neighbor is doing all it can by opening all large public places to the victims. Many Houston businesses are also hiring some of the victims to let them settle in Houston. The Houston Mayor estimates there are 100,000 victims sheltered in Metro Houston. Read today's Houston Chronicle to find out about the effort in Houston -http://www.chron.com. Houstonians are doing as much as possible, through donations and volunteer work.
 
Dilipdaumesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

C-da,
 
It is surprising that so many people are dying even after the announcement that ALL must leave the cities being hit by Katrina. Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school level education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have money enough to buy TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still about 100,000 remained in the city and thousands are supposed to be dead.
 
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Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

2005-09-02 Thread umesh sharma
C-da,
 
It is surprising that so many people are dying even after the announcement that ALL must leave the cities being hit by Katrina. Seems there is much more to people's intelligence than mere school level education - since nearly ALL are literate in US and have money enough to buy TVs and hire buses to leave the city. Still about 100,000 remained in the city and thousands are supposed to be dead.
 
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