Re: [Assam] Taking full responsibility--- a welcome promise
C'da others, Please add my name to the list (if its not too late). I had setup and signed the original online petition, and thought my name would be there. In any case, please add my name if possible. Thanks Ram On 1/2/07, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WE are sorry to lose a supporter. Each individual's voice is a building block of this effort. One less leaves us weaker. But we shall persevere. Our mission was clear from day one. We opposed the State Govt's move for a number of different reasons, which we enumerated and continue to do so, in order to generate a public awareness and promote a discussion and/or debate of the underlying issues. It is unfortunate that we did not merit the support of some of our esteemed friends, because of their disagreement with the length of the text or the quality of the language of the petition, as if it is a grade-school exercise on English language composition, association with a poorly drafted one of which might tarnish one's own reputation as an English language scholar leading to public ridicule from similar other English language scholars;* in spite of their agreement with the MAIN objective.* Or for that matter because of their disagreement with one or more of the various reasons we cited,* in spite of their agreement with the MAIN objective.* cm At 10:34 AM -0800 1/1/07, Himendra Thakur wrote: Dear Barua, My signature was conditional right from the beginning. The purpose was to generate a short strong Petition so that we do not become a laughing stock in future. Since* the prime movers *have not agreed, I must withdraw my signature, and I am very sad about this. I wish you all success. I congratulate* the prime movers* for taking *full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom*. I am very happy that the idea of taking full responsibility has emerged out of this debate as a very welcome promise. I am hoping that this will change the trend of future discussions at the assam-net where writers will take responsibility for the consequences of their opinions and signatures. With the best wishes, Himendra Barthakur - Original Message - *From:* Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Himendra Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Rajib Das[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* Indrajit Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mohan R. Palleti[EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@assamnet.org ; Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, January 01, 2007 9:59 AM *Subject:* The Petition The Petition is not about the name change, but against the action of the Assam Assembly who did not have the right to change the name of the State.* This was pointed out by Rajen Barua as** **Again the purpose of the petition is simply to stop the GOA to change the name so that we have a discussion in a democratic process if we want to change the name at all.* However, in the current draft of the Petition, the kernel purpose stated above got shrouded by tributes to Dutch sailors and promotion of the X-sound based on incomplete research. I signed the Petition on the condition that these extraneous materials will be deleted, and the Petition will be short strong. Dear Himenda and Dilip Deka: We just saw your response to Rajib Das. I thought we have clarified before that we are not changing the wording of the petition substantially to 100% liking of yours as stated above. We the prime movers of the petition discussed your comments on the specific wording and came to a democratic resolution and have changed some wording. As a result, we need to clarify again that *we have not revised our petition substantially, except that we removed the reference about 'congratulations' to Mirjumla. The statement about X-sound has been revised somewhat to reflect that facts.* For the final draft and the whole process of submission to the CM,* we the prime movers take full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom.* Now reading your above comments, we are not sure if your signature is still conditional. Frankly speaking we will be hesitant to put your name as a signatory unless we receive your unconditional agreement. As such we are requesting you to kindly confirm that you can still be a signatory . We need to know ASAP, because the petition is going out later today. We are addressing the same question to Dilip Deka also since he supported your views. Please confirm urgently so that we can put your name as a signatory. If we donot receive your unconditional acceptance by tonight, we will have to release the petition without your names since we donot want to get into any controversy on the issue. I hope you will say YES Thanks Rajen - Original Message - *From:* Himendra Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Rajib Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* Indrajit Barua [EMAIL
[Assam] Taking full responsibility--- a welcome promise
Dear Barua, My signature was conditional right from the beginning. The purpose was to generate a short strong Petition so that we do not become a laughing stock in future. Since the prime movers have not agreed, I must withdraw my signature, and I am very sad about this. I wish you all success. I congratulate the prime movers for taking full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom. I am very happy that the idea of taking full responsibility has emerged out of this debate as a very welcome promise. I am hoping that this will change the trend of future discussions at the assam-net where writers will take responsibility for the consequences of their opinions and signatures. With the best wishes, Himendra Barthakur - Original Message - From: Barua25 To: Himendra Thakur ; Rajib Das Cc: Indrajit Barua ; Mohan R. Palleti ; assam@assamnet.org ; Chan Mahanta ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: The Petition The Petition is not about the name change, but against the action of the Assam Assembly who did not have the right to change the name of the State. This was pointed out by Rajen Barua as Again the purpose of the petition is simply to stop the GOA to change the name so that we have a discussion in a democratic process if we want to change the name at all. However, in the current draft of the Petition, the kernel purpose stated above got shrouded by tributes to Dutch sailors and promotion of the X-sound based on incomplete research. I signed the Petition on the condition that these extraneous materials will be deleted, and the Petition will be short strong. Dear Himenda and Dilip Deka: We just saw your response to Rajib Das. I thought we have clarified before that we are not changing the wording of the petition substantially to 100% liking of yours as stated above. We the prime movers of the petition discussed your comments on the specific wording and came to a democratic resolution and have changed some wording. As a result, we need to clarify again that we have not revised our petition substantially, except that we removed the reference about 'congratulations' to Mirjumla. The statement about X-sound has been revised somewhat to reflect that facts. For the final draft and the whole process of submission to the CM, we the prime movers take full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom. Now reading your above comments, we are not sure if your signature is still conditional. Frankly speaking we will be hesitant to put your name as a signatory unless we receive your unconditional agreement. As such we are requesting you to kindly confirm that you can still be a signatory . We need to know ASAP, because the petition is going out later today. We are addressing the same question to Dilip Deka also since he supported your views. Please confirm urgently so that we can put your name as a signatory. If we donot receive your unconditional acceptance by tonight, we will have to release the petition without your names since we donot want to get into any controversy on the issue. I hope you will say YES Thanks Rajen - Original Message - From: Himendra Thakur To: Rajib Das Cc: Indrajit Barua ; Mohan R. Palleti ; Manoj Das ; Rajen Ajanta Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Rhino Charge stories ! Happy New Year, Rajib, and thank you for liking the Rhino Charge story! My 9-year old grand-daughter has spoiled me by turning me into a story-teller ! In fact, I have more stories to tell, provided you guys like it and address me as Himendra Uncle or Granduncle Himendra --- depending upon the age-group. I completely agree with you that I personally don't see the name change (or leaving the name alone) as a major theme. The Petition is not about the name change, but against the action of the Assam Assembly who did not have the right to change the name of the State. This was pointed out by Rajen Barua as Again the purpose of the petition is simply to stop the GOA to change the name so that we have a discussion in a democratic process if we want to change the name at all. However, in the current draft of the Petition, the kernel purpose stated above got shrouded by tributes to Dutch sailors and promotion of the X-sound based on incomplete research. I signed the Petition on the condition that these extraneous materials will be deleted, and the Petition will be short strong. I am sorry if you are offended because I used the word despondent --- which means feeling or expressing depression of spirit from loss of hope, confidence or courage. We are all suffering from despondency at
Re: [Assam] Taking full responsibility--- a welcome promise
WE are sorry to lose a supporter. Each individual's voice is a building block of this effort. One less leaves us weaker. But we shall persevere. Our mission was clear from day one. We opposed the State Govt's move for a number of different reasons, which we enumerated and continue to do so, in order to generate a public awareness and promote a discussion and/or debate of the underlying issues. It is unfortunate that we did not merit the support of some of our esteemed friends, because of their disagreement with the length of the text or the quality of the language of the petition, as if it is a grade-school exercise on English language composition, association with a poorly drafted one of which might tarnish one's own reputation as an English language scholar leading to public ridicule from similar other English language scholars; in spite of their agreement with the MAIN objective. Or for that matter because of their disagreement with one or more of the various reasons we cited, in spite of their agreement with the MAIN objective. cm At 10:34 AM -0800 1/1/07, Himendra Thakur wrote: Dear Barua, My signature was conditional right from the beginning. The purpose was to generate a short strong Petition so that we do not become a laughing stock in future. Since the prime movers have not agreed, I must withdraw my signature, and I am very sad about this. I wish you all success. I congratulate the prime movers for taking full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom. I am very happy that the idea of taking full responsibility has emerged out of this debate as a very welcome promise. I am hoping that this will change the trend of future discussions at the assam-net where writers will take responsibility for the consequences of their opinions and signatures. With the best wishes, Himendra Barthakur - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Barua25 To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Himendra Thakur ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rajib Das Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Indrajit Barua ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mohan R. Palleti ; mailto:assam@assamnet.orgassam@assamnet.org ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Chan Mahanta ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: The Petition The Petition is not about the name change, but against the action of the Assam Assembly who did not have the right to change the name of the State. This was pointed out by Rajen Barua as Again the purpose of the petition is simply to stop the GOA to change the name so that we have a discussion in a democratic process if we want to change the name at all. However, in the current draft of the Petition, the kernel purpose stated above got shrouded by tributes to Dutch sailors and promotion of the X-sound based on incomplete research. I signed the Petition on the condition that these extraneous materials will be deleted, and the Petition will be short strong. Dear Himenda and Dilip Deka: We just saw your response to Rajib Das. I thought we have clarified before that we are not changing the wording of the petition substantially to 100% liking of yours as stated above. We the prime movers of the petition discussed your comments on the specific wording and came to a democratic resolution and have changed some wording. As a result, we need to clarify again that we have not revised our petition substantially, except that we removed the reference about 'congratulations' to Mirjumla. The statement about X-sound has been revised somewhat to reflect that facts. For the final draft and the whole process of submission to the CM, we the prime movers take full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom. Now reading your above comments, we are not sure if your signature is still conditional. Frankly speaking we will be hesitant to put your name as a signatory unless we receive your unconditional agreement. As such we are requesting you to kindly confirm that you can still be a signatory . We need to know ASAP, because the petition is going out later today. We are addressing the same question to Dilip Deka also since he supported your views. Please confirm urgently so that we can put your name as a signatory. If we donot receive your unconditional acceptance by tonight, we will have to release the petition without your names since we donot want to get into any controversy on the issue. I hope you will say YES Thanks Rajen - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Himendra Thakur To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rajib Das Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Indrajit Barua ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mohan R. Palleti ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Manoj Das ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rajen Ajanta Barua ;
Re: [Assam] Taking full responsibility--- a welcome promise
even baby steps count (as Chris Gardner -the author of Pursuit of happyness says) --so even if the petition is not 100% perfect -it would be a start - a voice of the public at large. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WE are sorry to lose a supporter. Each individual's voice is a building block of this effort. One less leaves us weaker. But we shall persevere. Our mission was clear from day one. We opposed the State Govt's move for a number of different reasons, which we enumerated and continue to do so, in order to generate a public awareness and promote a discussion and/or debate of the underlying issues. It is unfortunate that we did not merit the support of some of our esteemed friends, because of their disagreement with the length of the text or the quality of the language of the petition, as if it is a grade-school exercise on English language composition, association with a poorly drafted one of which might tarnish one's own reputation as an English language scholar leading to public ridicule from similar other English language scholars; in spite of their agreement with the MAIN objective. Or for that matter because of their disagreement with one or more of the various reasons we cited, in spite of their agreement with the MAIN objective. cm At 10:34 AM -0800 1/1/07, Himendra Thakur wrote: Dear Barua, My signature was conditional right from the beginning. The purpose was to generate a short strong Petition so that we do not become a laughing stock in future. Since the prime movers have not agreed, I must withdraw my signature, and I am very sad about this. I wish you all success. I congratulate the prime movers for taking full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom. I am very happy that the idea of taking full responsibility has emerged out of this debate as a very welcome promise. I am hoping that this will change the trend of future discussions at the assam-net where writers will take responsibility for the consequences of their opinions and signatures. With the best wishes, Himendra Barthakur - Original Message - From: Barua25 To: Himendra Thakur ; Rajib Das Cc: Indrajit Barua ; Mohan R. Palleti ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chan Mahanta ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: The Petition The Petition is not about the name change, but against the action of the Assam Assembly who did not have the right to change the name of the State. This was pointed out by Rajen Barua as Again the purpose of the petition is simply to stop the GOA to change the name so that we have a discussion in a democratic process if we want to change the name at all. However, in the current draft of the Petition, the kernel purpose stated above got shrouded by tributes to Dutch sailors and promotion of the X-sound based on incomplete research. I signed the Petition on the condition that these extraneous materials will be deleted, and the Petition will be short strong. Dear Himenda and Dilip Deka: We just saw your response to Rajib Das. I thought we have clarified before that we are not changing the wording of the petition substantially to 100% liking of yours as stated above. We the prime movers of the petition discussed your comments on the specific wording and came to a democratic resolution and have changed some wording. As a result, we need to clarify again that we have not revised our petition substantially, except that we removed the reference about 'congratulations' to Mirjumla. The statement about X-sound has been revised somewhat to reflect that facts. For the final draft and the whole process of submission to the CM, we the prime movers take full responsibility to achieve our goal which is to stop the GOA to proceed with the resolution to change the name to Asom. Now reading your above comments, we are not sure if your signature is still conditional. Frankly speaking we will be hesitant to put your name as a signatory unless we receive your unconditional agreement. As such we are requesting you to kindly confirm that you can still be a signatory . We need to know ASAP, because the petition is going out later today. We are addressing the same question to Dilip Deka also since he supported your views. Please confirm urgently so that we can put your name as a signatory. If we donot receive your unconditional acceptance by tonight, we will have to release the petition without your names since we donot want to get into any controversy on the issue. I hope you will say YES Thanks Rajen - Original Message - From: Himendra Thakur To: Rajib Das Cc: Indrajit Barua ; Mohan R. Palleti ; Manoj Das ; Rajen Ajanta Barua ;
