Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
While the rest of the Indians (excluding the Assamese) are moving ahead with whatever they have, I think the Bengali intellectuals are still trying to figure out which one they should opt for: I mean: Nai pw loni Nai pw dhoni Nai pw mukhe Nai pw gwphe. RB - Original Message - From: "Ganesh C Bora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Assamnet" <assam@assamnet.org> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped > Rajen da:> > Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this> point and 'humorously' concluded that West Bengal's> underdevelopment is because of two points:> 1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM> 2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET> > Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the> sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped> them!> > (May be there is truth in it!!!)> > Ganesh> > --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Question:> > > > That the entire North East India is under developed> > is an well established fact and have it various> > explanations.> > > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and> > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal> > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are> > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and> > trades are concerned.> > > > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal> > long before they went west. That way Bengal should> > have been the leader.> > > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling> > phenomenon from our economic Gurus? > > > > RB> ___> > assam mailing list> > assam@assamnet.org> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> > > > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
>Over the years, as we all know, they have done very well and companies
like Godrej and Tata are global players today.
So this is what we see for India.
For trade, commerce and industry, Parses are big contributors.
They came to India around 10th
century, and were forced to do trade like the Marowary
community, and thus a tradition was
started.
The Marowary did it for religeous
reason (Jains) and the Parses did it for historical reason.
The same is true of the rise of
Capitalism which happenedf due to the Puritan Christians in this country
RB
- Original Message -
From:
Ram Sarangapani
To: Barua25
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:04
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is
Underdeveloped
Someone mentioned Parsees under this header. The Parsees it
seems fled from Iran (due to persecution there), some went to Europe
while a small group came to India.
The British were very much at ease with them, and when they left offered
them British Passports. But they did not want them, so instead the British
gave them real estate in Mumbai. This community has not been affected by the
problems between Hindus and Muslims and have pretty much been left alone.
Over the years, as we all know, they have done very well and companies
like Godrej and Tata are are global players today. Ask Parsees, and they will
tell you that India has been very good to them. Similarly, Israel frequently
wants Indian Jews to migrate, but most Indian Jews feel very comfortable in
India and are not inclined to leave.
Incidently, I am at present reading a book "Holy Cow" by Sarah MacDonald.
I would recommend this book to anyone who would like to see India (both good
and bad, its religions, its customs, and oddities) through Australian eyes.
--Ram
On 1/22/06, Barua25
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Bengalis did not have a
tradition of becoming little traders in the same way
Marwaris and Gujaraties were.
BB:
Thanks. You did answer one important
issue I was raising. That is the Tradition or lack of
it.
Another thing to be noted is that
whatever success of West Bengal on trade and commerec have made is due
manily to the condtribution made by the Gujaratis and Marwaris in West
Bengal. Is that correct? I know there is a large community of these states
in WB, but donot know how much is their contribution compared to the
Bengalis.
We are trying not to bring
Race into the picture. But so far, we could not see anything other than
Tradition.
RB
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:52
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is
Underdeveloped
Barua
Saheb & Other participants
The
problem of West Bengal's slow pace of industrial development in comparison
with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside
a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time
or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the
matter with just a little commonsense.
Bengalis have always done well in the Anglo-Indian type of
education introduced by the colonial rulers. So have the boys and girls of
some other states where Universities were set up in the early 19
th century. As one or two netters have
pointed out Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders
in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. There were of course little
businessmen here and there but they failed to become prosperous. So far as
Assam, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa are concerned, the Marwaris dominated the
economy and local businessmen simply failed to compete with them.
At the
time British quit India, the political climate of West Bengal was
volatile. Even tea planters migrated elsewhere after India became free.
The grand English shops like Whiteaways & Laidlow ( hope the name is
right) simply disappeared. The sparkling Hogg Market became
unrecognisable. A little away from the centre of the city one day I found
a grand Victorian building in ruins used by hawkers and petty shopkeepers
although the plaques bearing the name of a jeweller who worked for
royalty, the Nawabs and the like were still there.
But
modern buildings – those of glass and concrete – did replace many rambling
Victorian structures following Independence, e g LIC buildings, the Indian
Banks and so on. But on the buildings' wall you would hav
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
MM da, >Brit Passports were available for all Indians. There was no Visas till '60's. Darker Parsis were not >sure if they will do well in England. Look what happened to White Iranians in US/UK. Wonder why many Indians then did not choose to migrate at that time. Was it because they feared discrimination? About the Jews and Parsees, I am just going by what I came across some time ago. Many of them interviewed said that they opted to stay in India. >Where would Parsees have been if Scots did not build Jamshedpur Steel mills and had not India >Govt given monopoly rights for 40 yearsto Tatas(maybe Nehru's love for Son-in-laws clan)to build >trucks and buses and Army Vehicles. AtoZ were taught by Germany. I would not want to take away anything from empires built by the Tatas/Godrej. Both oil and tea were developed by the British. Then the question could also be asked where would Assam's primary industry be if it were not for the British? And we can go on this way. What matters is what have these different communities done with the expertise handed down to them either by the Russians/German or the Brits? Some communities have built empires out of those, while others (even as we speak) are ruining theirs. >India failed to capitalize on the backbone Heavy Engineering Corporation literally given free >byUSSR. Tatas were instrumental in this . I know ! And if I were running Tata, I would do the same. BTW the USSR help may have been 'free' but am sure they would have tried to attach some strings. We ought to be able to give credit where its due I think. --Ram On 1/22/06, mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 99% Indian Jews left for Israel. Brit Passports were available for all Indians. There was no Visas till '60's. Darker Parsis were not sure if they will do well in England. Look what happened to White Iranians in US/UK. Entrepreneurship needs familiarity and special skills. Where would Parsees have been if Scots did not build Jamshedpur Steel mills and had not India Govt given monopoly rights for 40 yearsto Tatas(maybe Nehru's love for Son-in-laws clan)to build trucks and buses and Army Vehicles. AtoZ were taught by Germany. India failed to capitalize on the backbone Heavy Engineering Corporation literally given free byUSSR. Tatas were instrumental in this . I know ! mm From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Barua25 < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: Assam@assamnet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is UnderdevelopedDate: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:04:03 -0600 Someone mentioned Parsees under this header. The Parsees it seems fled from Iran (due to persecution there), some went to Europe while a small group came to India. The British were very much at ease with them, and when they left offered them British Passports. But they did not want them, so instead the British gave them real estate in Mumbai. This community has not been affected by the problems between Hindus and Muslims and have pretty much been left alone. Over the years, as we all know, they have done very well and companies like Godrej and Tata are are global players today. Ask Parsees, and they will tell you that India has been very good to them. Similarly, Israel frequently wants Indian Jews to migrate, but most Indian Jews feel very comfortable in India and are not inclined to leave. Incidently, I am at present reading a book "Holy Cow" by Sarah MacDonald. I would recommend this book to anyone who would like to see India (both good and bad, its religions, its customs, and oddities) through Australian eyes. --Ram On 1/22/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. BB: Thanks. You did answer one important issue I was raising. That is the Tradition or lack of it. Another thing to be noted is that whatever success of West Bengal on trade and commerec have made is due manily to the condtribution made by the Gujaratis and Marwaris in West Bengal. Is that correct? I know there is a large community of these states in WB, but donot know how much is their contribution compared to the Bengalis. We are trying not to bring Race into the picture. But so far, we could not see anything other than Tradition. RB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Barua Saheb & Other participants The problem of West Bengal's slow pace of industrial development in comparison with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the matter with just a
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
99% Indian Jews left for Israel. Brit Passports were available for all Indians. There was no Visas till '60's. Darker Parsis were not sure if they will do well in England. Look what happened to White Iranians in US/UK. Entrepreneurship needs familiarity and special skills. Where would Parsees have been if Scots did not build Jamshedpur Steel mills and had not India Govt given monopoly rights for 40 yearsto Tatas(maybe Nehru's love for Son-in-laws clan)to build trucks and buses and Army Vehicles. AtoZ were taught by Germany. India failed to capitalize on the backbone Heavy Engineering Corporation literally given free byUSSR. Tatas were instrumental in this . I know ! mm From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: Assam@assamnet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is UnderdevelopedDate: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:04:03 -0600 Someone mentioned Parsees under this header. The Parsees it seems fled from Iran (due to persecution there), some went to Europe while a small group came to India. The British were very much at ease with them, and when they left offered them British Passports. But they did not want them, so instead the British gave them real estate in Mumbai. This community has not been affected by the problems between Hindus and Muslims and have pretty much been left alone. Over the years, as we all know, they have done very well and companies like Godrej and Tata are are global players today. Ask Parsees, and they will tell you that India has been very good to them. Similarly, Israel frequently wants Indian Jews to migrate, but most Indian Jews feel very comfortable in India and are not inclined to leave. Incidently, I am at present reading a book "Holy Cow" by Sarah MacDonald. I would recommend this book to anyone who would like to see India (both good and bad, its religions, its customs, and oddities) through Australian eyes. --Ram On 1/22/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. BB: Thanks. You did answer one important issue I was raising. That is the Tradition or lack of it. Another thing to be noted is that whatever success of West Bengal on trade and commerec have made is due manily to the condtribution made by the Gujaratis and Marwaris in West Bengal. Is that correct? I know there is a large community of these states in WB, but donot know how much is their contribution compared to the Bengalis. We are trying not to bring Race into the picture. But so far, we could not see anything other than Tradition. RB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Barua Saheb & Other participants The problem of West Bengal's slow pace of industrial development in comparison with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the matter with just a little commonsense. Bengalis have always done well in the Anglo-Indian type of education introduced by the colonial rulers. So have the boys and girls of some other states where Universities were set up in the early 19 th century. As one or two netters have pointed out Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. There were of course little businessmen here and there but they failed to become prosperous. So far as Assam, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa are concerned, the Marwaris dominated the economy and local businessmen simply failed to compete with them. At the time British quit India, the political climate of West Bengal was volatile. Even tea planters migrated elsewhere after India became free. The grand English shops like Whiteaways & Laidlow ( hope the name is right) simply disappeared. The sparkling Hogg Market became unrecognisable. A little away from the centre of the city one day I found a grand Victorian building in ruins used by hawkers and petty shopkeepers although the plaques bearing the name of a jeweller who worked for royalty, the Nawabs and the like were still there. But modern buildings â those of glass and concrete â did replace many rambling Victorian structures following Independence, e g LIC buildings, the Indian Banks and so on. But on the buildings' wall you would have invariably found the slogans of political parties, the unions etc. The Indian businessmen of Kolkata decided to move elsewhere fearing a Communist take over. But unexpectedly when the Communist came, in particular under the leadership of Jyoti Basu, things improved, at least there was a genuine attempt by the Gover
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
Someone mentioned Parsees under this header. The Parsees it seems fled from Iran (due to persecution there), some went to Europe while a small group came to India. The British were very much at ease with them, and when they left offered them British Passports. But they did not want them, so instead the British gave them real estate in Mumbai. This community has not been affected by the problems between Hindus and Muslims and have pretty much been left alone. Over the years, as we all know, they have done very well and companies like Godrej and Tata are are global players today. Ask Parsees, and they will tell you that India has been very good to them. Similarly, Israel frequently wants Indian Jews to migrate, but most Indian Jews feel very comfortable in India and are not inclined to leave. Incidently, I am at present reading a book "Holy Cow" by Sarah MacDonald. I would recommend this book to anyone who would like to see India (both good and bad, its religions, its customs, and oddities) through Australian eyes. --Ram On 1/22/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. BB: Thanks. You did answer one important issue I was raising. That is the Tradition or lack of it. Another thing to be noted is that whatever success of West Bengal on trade and commerec have made is due manily to the condtribution made by the Gujaratis and Marwaris in West Bengal. Is that correct? I know there is a large community of these states in WB, but donot know how much is their contribution compared to the Bengalis. We are trying not to bring Race into the picture. But so far, we could not see anything other than Tradition. RB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Barua Saheb & Other participants The problem of West Bengal's slow pace of industrial development in comparison with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the matter with just a little commonsense. Bengalis have always done well in the Anglo-Indian type of education introduced by the colonial rulers. So have the boys and girls of some other states where Universities were set up in the early 19 th century. As one or two netters have pointed out Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. There were of course little businessmen here and there but they failed to become prosperous. So far as Assam, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa are concerned, the Marwaris dominated the economy and local businessmen simply failed to compete with them. At the time British quit India, the political climate of West Bengal was volatile. Even tea planters migrated elsewhere after India became free. The grand English shops like Whiteaways & Laidlow ( hope the name is right) simply disappeared. The sparkling Hogg Market became unrecognisable. A little away from the centre of the city one day I found a grand Victorian building in ruins used by hawkers and petty shopkeepers although the plaques bearing the name of a jeweller who worked for royalty, the Nawabs and the like were still there. But modern buildings – those of glass and concrete – did replace many rambling Victorian structures following Independence, e g LIC buildings, the Indian Banks and so on. But on the buildings' wall you would have invariably found the slogans of political parties, the unions etc. The Indian businessmen of Kolkata decided to move elsewhere fearing a Communist take over. But unexpectedly when the Communist came, in particular under the leadership of Jyoti Basu, things improved, at least there was a genuine attempt by the Government to overhaul the corrupt and inefficient administration and bolster the economy. Basu went abroad a number of times seeking foreign investment with the blessings of Government of India. Normally a State Minister is constitutionally prohibited to do international negotiations. When Debeswar Sarmah, an Assam Government Minister threatened that he was going to build a refinery with Romanian help, he was chastised. Another instance is that of late Keshab Gogoi, another Assam Government Minister who was invited by the Japanese Government for discussion on a number of things after the visit of a Japanese team to Assam, Government of India did not allow Mr Gogoi to accept the invitation. I do not know how far Jyoti Basu's trips abroad were successful. However, the situation is not so bleak as our netters appear to have portrayed. As I said at the beginning I do not have facts and figures to support my claim. I know that West Bengal has done well
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
<<tradition of becoming >>> Exept the Bangla Banias, the Saha,Raha,Naha. Gujus,Mero's built for themselves -as always. Trickle down effect was the small gain. Brit. merchant houses did their major work . Tea HQ's,Tea Auction Centre, now-defunct port,Rail Start Centre, all help tilldate. We still have to go to the 'CONTROL at Source' thru' the Culture and leftism flags. The other day when Saurav Ganguly was removed from Test Cricket -there were placards"Bengal should leave India". But this got hushed very fast. They play their cards well. mm From: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: Assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is UnderdevelopedDate: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:06:31 -0600 >Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. BB: Thanks. You did answer one important issue I was raising. That is the Tradition or lack of it. Another thing to be noted is that whatever success of West Bengal on trade and commerec have made is due manily to the condtribution made by the Gujaratis and Marwaris in West Bengal. Is that correct? I know there is a large community of these states in WB, but donot know how much is their contribution compared to the Bengalis. We are trying not to bring Race into the picture. But so far, we could not see anything other than Tradition. RB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Barua Saheb & Other participants The problem of West Bengalâs slow pace of industrial development in comparison with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the matter with just a little commonsense. Bengalis have always done well in the Anglo-Indian type of education introduced by the colonial rulers. So have the boys and girls of some other states where Universities were set up in the early 19th century. As one or two netters have pointed out Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. There were of course little businessmen here and there but they failed to become prosperous. So far as Assam, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa are concerned, the Marwaris dominated the economy and local businessmen simply failed to compete with them. At the time British quit India, the political climate of West Bengal was volatile. Even tea planters migrated elsewhere after India became free. The grand English shops like Whiteaways & Laidlow ( hope the name is right) simply disappeared. The sparkling Hogg Market became unrecognisable. A little away from the centre of the city one day I found a grand Victorian building in ruins used by hawkers and petty shopkeepers although the plaques bearing the name of a jeweller who worked for royalty, the Nawabs and the like were still there. But modern buildings â those of glass and concrete â did replace many rambling Victorian structures following Independence, e g LIC buildings, the Indian Banks and so on. But on the buildingsâ wall you would have invariably found the slogans of political parties, the unions etc. The Indian businessmen of Kolkata decided to move elsewhere fearing a Communist take over. But unexpectedly when the Communist came, in particular under the leadership of Jyoti Basu, things improved, at least there was a genuine attempt by the Government to overhaul the corrupt and inefficient administration and bolster the economy. Basu went abroad a number of times seeking foreign investment with the blessings of Government of India. Normally a State Minister is constitutionally prohibited to do international negotiations. When Debeswar Sarmah, an Assam Government Minister threatened that he was going to build a refinery with Romanian help, he was chastised. Another instance is that of late Keshab Gogoi, another Assam Government Minister who was invited by the Japanese Government for discussion on a number of things after the visit of a Japanese team to Assam, Government of India did not allow Mr Gogoi to accept the invitation. I do not know how far Jyoti Basuâs trips abroad were successful. However, the situation is not so bleak as our netters appear to have portrayed. As I said at the beginning I do not have facts and figures to support my claim. I know that West Bengal has done well as manufacturer of chemicals and drugs, in milk production, banking, housing development, book production, ceramics (the Bengal Potteries are stated to be best in India) and so on. I wish I had some official papers produced by the Government of West Bengal with me. I know that they have not done so badly. I am of course not
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
>Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. BB: Thanks. You did answer one important issue I was raising. That is the Tradition or lack of it. Another thing to be noted is that whatever success of West Bengal on trade and commerec have made is due manily to the condtribution made by the Gujaratis and Marwaris in West Bengal. Is that correct? I know there is a large community of these states in WB, but donot know how much is their contribution compared to the Bengalis. We are trying not to bring Race into the picture. But so far, we could not see anything other than Tradition. RB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Barua Saheb & Other participants The problem of West Bengal’s slow pace of industrial development in comparison with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the matter with just a little commonsense. Bengalis have always done well in the Anglo-Indian type of education introduced by the colonial rulers. So have the boys and girls of some other states where Universities were set up in the early 19th century. As one or two netters have pointed out Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. There were of course little businessmen here and there but they failed to become prosperous. So far as Assam, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa are concerned, the Marwaris dominated the economy and local businessmen simply failed to compete with them. At the time British quit India, the political climate of West Bengal was volatile. Even tea planters migrated elsewhere after India became free. The grand English shops like Whiteaways & Laidlow ( hope the name is right) simply disappeared. The sparkling Hogg Market became unrecognisable. A little away from the centre of the city one day I found a grand Victorian building in ruins used by hawkers and petty shopkeepers although the plaques bearing the name of a jeweller who worked for royalty, the Nawabs and the like were still there. But modern buildings – those of glass and concrete – did replace many rambling Victorian structures following Independence, e g LIC buildings, the Indian Banks and so on. But on the buildings’ wall you would have invariably found the slogans of political parties, the unions etc. The Indian businessmen of Kolkata decided to move elsewhere fearing a Communist take over. But unexpectedly when the Communist came, in particular under the leadership of Jyoti Basu, things improved, at least there was a genuine attempt by the Government to overhaul the corrupt and inefficient administration and bolster the economy. Basu went abroad a number of times seeking foreign investment with the blessings of Government of India. Normally a State Minister is constitutionally prohibited to do international negotiations. When Debeswar Sarmah, an Assam Government Minister threatened that he was going to build a refinery with Romanian help, he was chastised. Another instance is that of late Keshab Gogoi, another Assam Government Minister who was invited by the Japanese Government for discussion on a number of things after the visit of a Japanese team to Assam, Government of India did not allow Mr Gogoi to accept the invitation. I do not know how far Jyoti Basu’s trips abroad were successful. However, the situation is not so bleak as our netters appear to have portrayed. As I said at the beginning I do not have facts and figures to support my claim. I know that West Bengal has done well as manufacturer of chemicals and drugs, in milk production, banking, housing development, book production, ceramics (the Bengal Potteries are stated to be best in India) and so on. I wish I had some official papers produced by the Government of West Bengal with me. I know that they have not done so badly. I am of course not comparing them with the Gujaratis or Keralites, etc. Shifting of the capital from Kolkata to Delhi is certainly a factor for decline in West Bengal’s fortune in many ways. But that happened long ago and in spite of that West Bengal continued to prosper for the time being because of the concentration of the headquarters of some big companies in Kolkata for many years, and then the North-east became the hinterland of industrial Bengal. Now Bangladesh is being praised for their healthier economy than India’s. One of the reasons for this prosperity is the remittance of vast amounts
Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
Barua Saheb & Other participants The problem of West Bengal’s slow pace of industrial development in comparison with states like Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab etc requires careful study inside a well-stocked library. I do not have either the time or facilities for such a serious pursuit but I would like to discuss the matter with just a little commonsense. Bengalis have always done well in the Anglo-Indian type of education introduced by the colonial rulers. So have the boys and girls of some other states where Universities were set up in the early 19th century. As one or two netters have pointed out Bengalis did not have a tradition of becoming little traders in the same way Marwaris and Gujaraties were. There were of course little businessmen here and there but they failed to become prosperous. So far as Assam, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa are concerned, the Marwaris dominated the economy and local businessmen simply failed to compete with them. At the time British quit India, the political climate of West Bengal was volatile. Even tea planters migrated elsewhere after India became free. The grand English shops like Whiteaways & Laidlow ( hope the name is right) simply disappeared. The sparkling Hogg Market became unrecognisable. A little away from the centre of the city one day I found a grand Victorian building in ruins used by hawkers and petty shopkeepers although the plaques bearing the name of a jeweller who worked for royalty, the Nawabs and the like were still there. But modern buildings – those of glass and concrete – did replace many rambling Victorian structures following Independence, e g LIC buildings, the Indian Banks and so on. But on the buildings’ wall you would have invariably found the slogans of political parties, the unions etc. The Indian businessmen of Kolkata decided to move elsewhere fearing a Communist take over. But unexpectedly when the Communist came, in particular under the leadership of Jyoti Basu, things improved, at least there was a genuine attempt by the Government to overhaul the corrupt and inefficient administration and bolster the economy. Basu went abroad a number of times seeking foreign investment with the blessings of Government of India. Normally a State Minister is constitutionally prohibited to do international negotiations. When Debeswar Sarmah, an Assam Government Minister threatened that he was going to build a refinery with Romanian help, he was chastised. Another instance is that of late Keshab Gogoi, another Assam Government Minister who was invited by the Japanese Government for discussion on a number of things after the visit of a Japanese team to Assam, Government of India did not allow Mr Gogoi to accept the invitation. I do not know how far Jyoti Basu’s trips abroad were successful. However, the situation is not so bleak as our netters appear to have portrayed. As I said at the beginning I do not have facts and figures to support my claim. I know that West Bengal has done well as manufacturer of chemicals and drugs, in milk production, banking, housing development, book production, ceramics (the Bengal Potteries are stated to be best in India) and so on. I wish I had some official papers produced by the Government of West Bengal with me. I know that they have not done so badly. I am of course not comparing them with the Gujaratis or Keralites, etc. Shifting of the capital from Kolkata to Delhi is certainly a factor for decline in West Bengal’s fortune in many ways. But that happened long ago and in spite of that West Bengal continued to prosper for the time being because of the concentration of the headquarters of some big companies in Kolkata for many years, and then the North-east became the hinterland of industrial Bengal. Now Bangladesh is being praised for their healthier economy than India’s. One of the reasons for this prosperity is the remittance of vast amounts of foreign money by the hardworking expatriate community, a majority of whom are perhaps in lowly jobs. So far as educated Bengalis are concerned, whether NRI or not, they too contribute to West Bengal or India’s economy by what they earn in various ways..I am afraid I have taken too much time knowing full well that brevity is the soul of wit! Bhuban ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Are they representatives or number counts? Again how many each of how many manipulated parties? We know your simplistic logic. Thanks anyway! mm From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is UnderdevelopedDate: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:56:30 -0600 MM da, >One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" >Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" >Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and >athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" Don't know about cultural leftism, but why you would denigrate uplifing traits like bravery/courage and academic brilliance? As far as cornering the 'market' for attention, who or what is stopping the Assamese from using the same tactics like the above? >These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI Right! Now you probably realize the 'advantages' of sitting by mutely at Delhi. Why is that our representatives from Assam (that get elected by the Assamese) are mere spectators at Delhi? Why haven't the Assamese intelligentia like yourself demanded more from our representative? --Ram On 1/21/06, mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Underdeveloped-West Bengal? You must be kidding! BPT =Bengal,Punjab,Tamil -these are the 3 bullies terrorizing India the last 300 years ,cornering all the wealth, cushiest Babudom, you name it. 3 different flags of convenince are used. One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI 'Backward!!' You can say that again. mm From: Ganesh C Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Barua25 < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Assamnet <assam@assamnet.org>Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) >Rajen da:>>Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this>point and 'humorously' concluded that West Bengal's>underdevelopment is because of two points: >1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM>2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET>>Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the>sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped>them!> >(May be there is truth in it!!!)>>Ganesh>>--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:>> > Question:> >> > That the entire North East India is under developed> > is an well established fact and have it various> > explanations.> > > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and> > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal> > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are> > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and > > trades are concerned.> >> > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal> > long before they went west. That way Bengal should> > have been the leader.> > > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling> > phenomenon from our economic Gurus?> >> > RB> ___> > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >>>>__>Do You Yahoo!?>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com>>___>assam mailing list >assam@assamnet.org> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___assam mailing list assam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Rajib is right on lune when he mentioned that Bengalis git babudom and nothing else from Brits. Also, they became complacent assuming that once leading in industrialization, they will remain so. Perhaps Brits foresaw that this is what will become of Bongs and hence decided to move capital to Delhi. I think that Bengal's and specially Calcutta's ( oops Kolkata) decline started from that time. santanoo - Original Message - From: "Rajib Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Mikeda, Bengal IS underdeveloped - it is only in the last 3 to 4 years that it has started to revitalize itself. The statistical indicators speak for themselves. I doubt whether Bengalis or Tamils cornered all the wealth (Punjabis are a different breed) - the only thing Bongs took away from the Brits was babudom and that ain't wealth. Actually in today's India, there are other engines of growth - Gujarat - where half a millenium of international traveling gets them to digest change and opportunity quickly, Telegus - who came out of the shadows of the Tamils in South India and have quietly through the calibre of a smart leadership democratized opportunities to a greater extent than most other places and yes, Tamils too - but these are not the Tamil Brahmin clerks of yester years. These are the output of the dravidian lower classes and they are doing very well too. In the independent Indian dispensation, Tamil Brahminism, Bengalis and Punjabis have been irrelevant. Despite the fact that the fate of the subcontinent might as well have been 3 countries Punjab, Bengal and India. Bengal cried as much about central apathy as Assam. In Bengal we know what was/were the causes of debacle. What about Assam? --- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Underdeveloped-West Bengal? You must be kidding! BPT =Bengal,Punjab,Tamil -these are the 3 bullies terrorizing India the last 300 years ,cornering all the wealth, cushiest Babudom, you name it. 3 different flags of convenince are used. One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI 'Backward!!' You can say that again. mm --------- From: Ganesh C Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Assamnet Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) >Rajen da: > >Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this >point and 'humorously' concluded that West Bengal's >underdevelopment is because of two points: >1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM >2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET > >Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the >sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped >them! > >(May be there is truth in it!!!) > >Ganesh > >--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Question: > > > > That the entire North East India is under developed > > is an well established fact and have it various > > explanations. > > > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and > > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal > > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are > > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and > > trades are concerned. > > > > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal > > long before they went west. That way Bengal should > > have been the leader. > > > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling > > phenomenon from our economic Gurus? > > > > RB> ___ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ >assam mailing list >assam@assamnet.org >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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MM da, >One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" >Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" >Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and >athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" Don't know about cultural leftism, but why you would denigrate uplifing traits like bravery/courage and academic brilliance? As far as cornering the 'market' for attention, who or what is stopping the Assamese from using the same tactics like the above? >These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI Right! Now you probably realize the 'advantages' of sitting by mutely at Delhi. Why is that our representatives from Assam (that get elected by the Assamese) are mere spectators at Delhi? Why haven't the Assamese intelligentia like yourself demanded more from our representative? --Ram On 1/21/06, mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Underdeveloped-West Bengal? You must be kidding! BPT =Bengal,Punjab,Tamil -these are the 3 bullies terrorizing India the last 300 years ,cornering all the wealth, cushiest Babudom, you name it. 3 different flags of convenince are used. One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI 'Backward!!' You can say that again. mm From: Ganesh C Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Barua25 < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Assamnet <assam@assamnet.org>Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) >Rajen da:>>Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this>point and 'humorously' concluded that West Bengal's>underdevelopment is because of two points: >1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM>2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET>>Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the>sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped>them!> >(May be there is truth in it!!!)>>Ganesh>>--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:>> > Question:> >> > That the entire North East India is under developed> > is an well established fact and have it various> > explanations.> > > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and> > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal> > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are> > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and > > trades are concerned.> >> > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal> > long before they went west. That way Bengal should> > have been the leader.> > > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling> > phenomenon from our economic Gurus?> >> > RB> ___> > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >>>>__>Do You Yahoo!?>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com>>___>assam mailing list >assam@assamnet.org> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org___assam mailing list assam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Mikeda, Bengal IS underdeveloped - it is only in the last 3 to 4 years that it has started to revitalize itself. The statistical indicators speak for themselves. I doubt whether Bengalis or Tamils cornered all the wealth (Punjabis are a different breed) - the only thing Bongs took away from the Brits was babudom and that ain't wealth. Actually in today's India, there are other engines of growth - Gujarat - where half a millenium of international traveling gets them to digest change and opportunity quickly, Telegus - who came out of the shadows of the Tamils in South India and have quietly through the calibre of a smart leadership democratized opportunities to a greater extent than most other places and yes, Tamils too - but these are not the Tamil Brahmin clerks of yester years. These are the output of the dravidian lower classes and they are doing very well too. In the independent Indian dispensation, Tamil Brahminism, Bengalis and Punjabis have been irrelevant. Despite the fact that the fate of the subcontinent might as well have been 3 countries Punjab, Bengal and India. Bengal cried as much about central apathy as Assam. In Bengal we know what was/were the causes of debacle. What about Assam? --- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Underdeveloped-West Bengal? You must be kidding! BPT =Bengal,Punjab,Tamil -these are the 3 bullies terrorizing India the last 300 years ,cornering all the wealth, cushiest Babudom, you name it. 3 different flags of convenince are used. One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI 'Backward!!' You can say that again. mm - From: Ganesh C Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Assamnet Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) >Rajen da: > >Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this >point and humorously concluded that West Bengals >underdevelopment is because of two points: >1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM >2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET > >Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the >sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped >them! > >(May be there is truth in it!!!) > >Ganesh > >--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Question: > > > > That the entire North East India is under developed > > is an well established fact and have it various > > explanations. > > > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and > > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal > > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are > > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and > > trades are concerned. > > > > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal > > long before they went west. That way Bengal should > > have been the leader. > > > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling > > phenomenon from our economic Gurus? > > > > RB> ___ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ >assam mailing list >assam@assamnet.org >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Underdeveloped-West Bengal? You must be kidding! BPT =Bengal,Punjab,Tamil -these are the 3 bullies terrorizing India the last 300 years ,cornering all the wealth, cushiest Babudom, you name it. 3 different flags of convenince are used. One -"Culture, Leftism???,Academic Brilliance" Another--" We the International Tamilism- we deserve much more than we get" Still another--"Me the courageous??,Valourious. the Superior Aryans, Experts in Sports and athletics, winners of wars-we deserve to rule-with our PROVENtrack records" These 3 stop all others thro'manipulation of DESI-DEMOKRASI 'Backward!!' You can say that again. mm From: Ganesh C Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Assamnet Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is UnderdevelopedDate: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:20:20 -0800 (PST)>Rajen da:>>Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this>point and humorously concluded that West Bengals>underdevelopment is because of two points:>1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM>2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET>>Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the>sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped>them!>>(May be there is truth in it!!!)>>Ganesh>>--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> > Question:> >> > That the entire North East India is under developed> > is an well established fact and have it various> > explanations.> >> > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and> > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal> > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are> > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and> > trades are concerned.> >> > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal> > long before they went west. That way Bengal should> > have been the leader.> >> > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling> > phenomenon from our economic Gurus?> >> > RB> ___> > assam mailing list> > assam@assamnet.org> >>http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> __>Do You Yahoo!?>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around>http://mail.yahoo.com>>___>assam mailing list>assam@assamnet.org>http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Yes. I will agree. But as Chandan would say, Marxism is just the symptom and not the cause. There must be a deeper cause. I am trying to find, if this deeper cause is cultural, racial or political or something else. Definitely to find the answer we will have to study more on the development of the west India vis a vis Gujarat and Rajasthan. I got the impression from my limited study so far that the Marowary, Bania and Parsi business communities of Gujarat and Rajasthan have a lot for the contribution or starting the tradition of stable trade and commerce in the west India, so much so that when the British occupied Burma and Assam in the early nineteenth century the Marowary community were being used by the British as their partners in finance etc. I don't know how much this line will take us to find a deeper cause for this, but this definitely is one aspect. Over all I believe in 'tradition' to a great extent. Take any issue, and one will come to the truth of importance of role of 'tradition'. Take the issue for instance of Patel-Motel in USA for instance. At present 40% of the Motels in USA are owned by Patels. Why? I don't know. But I suspect this has got a lot to do with the 'tradition' which some smart and influential guy must have started at one point. Another issue: Why Bangladeshis are taking over the Restaurant business all over USA and UK. Answer; I don't know, but I suspect the same. Again, why the Pasris, Banias and the Marowaris are good in commerce and trade? If we study we will find reason. What I am saying is that, I don't believe in racial capabiliities but I believe in 'tradition'. This also means that we cannot change a tradition overnoite but it may take more than a generation once a start can be made. There are certain people in every national who have single handedly started some 'tradition' which influenec the nation for generations to come. Xong.kordev, Mahatma Gandhi, Rabindranath are some such people who started their own traditions. Anyhow this is just one aspect of things. RB - Original Message - From: "Rajib Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <assam@assamnet.org> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped > > Yes. One word. > > Marxists!!> > --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Question:> > > > That the entire North East India is under developed> > is an well established fact and have it various> > explanations.> > > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and> > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal> > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are> > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and> > trades are concerned.> > > > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal> > long before they went west. That way Bengal should> > have been the leader.> > > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling> > phenomenon from our economic Gurus? > > > > RB> ___> > assam mailing list> > assam@assamnet.org> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> > > > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Rajen da: Long time ago, in one evening adda we discussed this point and humorously concluded that West Bengals underdevelopment is because of two points: 1) Allegiance to LAL SALAM 2) Adherence to RABINDRA SANGEET Rabindra Sangeet did encourage them to cross the sphere and even if they tried, the Lal baton stopped them! (May be there is truth in it!!!) Ganesh --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: > > That the entire North East India is under developed > is an well established fact and have it various > explanations. > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and > trades are concerned. > > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal > long before they went west. That way Bengal should > have been the leader. > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling > phenomenon from our economic Gurus? > > RB> ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Yes. One word. Marxists!! --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: > > That the entire North East India is under developed > is an well established fact and have it various > explanations. > > However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and > Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal > (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are > underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and > trades are concerned. > > On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal > long before they went west. That way Bengal should > have been the leader. > > Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling > phenomenon from our economic Gurus? > > RB> ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Why Bengal is Underdeveloped
Question: That the entire North East India is under developed is an well established fact and have it various explanations. However, compared to the West India (Gujarat and Rajasthan etc), I think even states like West Bengal (not to speak of Bihar and Bangladesh) are underdeveloped so far as industry, commerce and trades are concerned. On the other hand, the British went to West Bengal long before they went west. That way Bengal should have been the leader. Is there a traditional explanation of this puzzling phenomenon from our economic Gurus? RB ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
