Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

2005-11-08 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da,
 
I'll see what I can do with Brookings - though I was hoping to get instructions today from Friendship-Edison Charter school to start work this week. However, I am still finding new leads at World Bank etc - from Professors and also new acquaintances I have made in DC - might get an opening there - so that I get inside info from there etc.
 
UmeshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Umesh:
Now that you are in Washington DC, you could have probably atteneded the presentation if you would have known before and could have given a first hand report!! 
Could you try to get whatever we can get from Brookings Institute (Mr Stephen Cohen) about the proceedings of the Workshop.
Any other related information on any of the referenced individuals or any other relevent for Assam, if you can dig up, will be usefull and greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Rajenda
.
 

- Original Message - 
From: umesh sharma 
To: Rajen Barua ; Chan Mahanta ; assam@assamnet.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

Rajen-da,
 
This seems like a good development. Hopefully more people will take up the matter at World Bank - which is also in DC and at UN which is nearby at New York. Partha Gogoi's and Sanjoy Hazarika's comments together give a good picture. Just wish we had transcript of what they said since -- we could also be enlightened like the folks at Brookings.
 
UmeshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Chandan:
We must try to see the event in right perspective. If you do that, we (guys from Assam or NE) will not be looking at the presentation to find anything new (in fact there is nothing new for us to know about NE), but to find that Assam and the NE has been preented at all, ever, in an International NGO Research platform like Brookings Institute. in Washington, DC. 
The problem, or the root of the proble, of Assam and the NE has been complete ignorance, mis-representation and confusion about the region from all quarters, within and outside India.  Only people who can change the situation are the people of Assam & NE. As such this has been an opportunity let others know what is happening in Assam and the NE.
 
From that angle, this presentation was very important. Brookings Institute has organized and invited these three individuals from India to talk about Assam and NE. We are proud that Sanjoy Hazarika happens to be one of the speakers. (We don't have to know what exactly what he spoke here, because we know what he will speak to prsent the right picture).
 
(For those who donot know much about Sanjoy Hazarika, I can summarize his achievements in the following sentence: He is a hard working Assamese journalist of high caliber, who, among other things, visited and dined with Phizo; who wrote such classic books as 'The Strangers in the Mist', "The Rites of Passage" etc giving the complete no-nonsense story of the insurgencies and the immigration problems in NE; who recently won the an award from the World Bank for designing the 'Ship of Hope', a unique but simple boat for the Flood Victims in Assam and who produced the documentary "Brahmaputra", and who I found to be a dedicated hard working young Assamese who is presently engaged for the welfare on the entire people of NE without any prejudice. See more of Sanjoy Hazarika in www.c-nes.com).
 
Partha Gogoi from Washington DC who attended the presentation wrote about the workshop thus,"On the workshop, there was no presentation in the form of a slide-show as such. The three key-note speakers were asked to talk for at least 15 minutes about their views on the North East. There were several heavyweights in the crowd - Salman Haider (India's previous Foreign Secy - was basically India's top diplomat), Swaminathan Aiyer (writes Swaminomics in Times of India and based out of DC), Amnesty International Director, Stephen Cohen who's an expert on South Asian affairs and several interested Americans who seemed to know about Phizo and the Naga insurgency."
 
What we need is to find what the other two key note speakers, namely Lieutenant-General VK Raghavan, former DG Military Operations of the Indian Army, and Samir K Das of Calcutta University spoke about. As a community from Assam, what we can and should do, in my opinion, is to find out more about the Brookings Institute and other such organizations where we can present the correct picture about Assam and the North East. Sanjoy Hazarika has just opened the door for us. He mentioned that the  discussion was co-hosted by Stephen Cohen, a friend of India, who is at Brookings, and Mutthiah Alagappa of the East-West Centre; We need to explore more about these individuals for future. May be we can explore to see if we can make it possible to bring Sanjoy Hazarika for more presentation in such other international platforms or by any othe

Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

2005-11-08 Thread Rajen Barua



Umesh:
Now that you are in Washington DC, you 
could have probably atteneded the presentation if you would have known before 
and could have given a first hand report!! 
Could you try to get whatever we can get 
from Brookings Institute (Mr Stephen Cohen) about the proceedings of the 
Workshop.
Any other related information on any of 
the referenced individuals or any other relevent for Assam, if you can dig up, 
will be usefull and greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Rajenda
.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  umesh 
  sharma 
  To: Rajen Barua ; Chan Mahanta 
  ; assam@assamnet.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:40 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: 
  Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC
  
  Rajen-da,
   
  This seems like a good development. Hopefully more people will take up 
  the matter at World Bank - which is also in DC and at UN which is nearby at 
  New York. Partha Gogoi's and Sanjoy Hazarika's comments together give a good 
  picture. Just wish we had transcript of what they said since -- we could also 
  be enlightened like the folks at Brookings.
   
  UmeshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  



Chandan:
We must try to see the event in right 
perspective. If you do that, we (guys from Assam or NE) will not be looking 
at the presentation to find anything new (in fact there is nothing new for 
us to know about NE), but to find that Assam and the NE has been preented at 
all, ever, in an International NGO Research platform like Brookings 
Institute. in Washington, DC. 
The problem, or the root of the 
proble, of Assam and the NE has been complete ignorance, 
mis-representation and confusion about the region from all quarters, 
within and outside India.  Only 
people who can change the situation are the people of Assam & NE. As 
such this has been an opportunity let others know what is 
happening in Assam and the NE.
 
From that angle, this 
presentation was very important. Brookings Institute has organized 
and invited these three individuals from India to talk about Assam 
and NE. We are proud that Sanjoy Hazarika happens to be one of the speakers. 
(We don't have to know what exactly what he spoke here, because we know what 
he will speak to prsent the right picture).
 
(For those who donot know much 
about Sanjoy Hazarika, I can summarize his achievements in the 
following sentence: He is a hard working Assamese journalist of high 
caliber, who, among other things, visited and dined 
with Phizo; who wrote such classic books as 'The Strangers in the 
Mist', "The Rites of Passage" etc giving the complete no-nonsense 
story of the insurgencies and the immigration problems in NE; who 
recently won the an award from the World Bank for designing the 'Ship of 
Hope', a unique but simple boat for the Flood Victims in Assam and 
who produced the documentary "Brahmaputra", and who I found to be 
a dedicated hard working young Assamese who is presently engaged for 
the welfare on the entire people of NE without any prejudice. See more of 
Sanjoy Hazarika in www.c-nes.com).
 
Partha Gogoi from Washington DC who 
attended the presentation wrote about the workshop thus,"On the 
workshop, there was no presentation in the form of a slide-show as such. The 
three key-note speakers were asked to talk for at least 15 minutes about 
their views on the North East. There were several heavyweights in the crowd 
- Salman Haider (India's previous Foreign Secy - was basically India's top 
diplomat), Swaminathan Aiyer (writes Swaminomics in Times of India and based 
out of DC), Amnesty International Director, Stephen Cohen who's an expert on 
South Asian affairs and several interested Americans who seemed to know 
about Phizo and the Naga insurgency."
 
What we need is to find 
what the other two key note speakers, namely Lieutenant-General VK 
Raghavan, former DG Military Operations of the Indian Army, and Samir K Das 
of Calcutta University spoke about. As a community from Assam, 
what we can and should do, in my opinion, is to find out more about the 
Brookings Institute and other such organizations where we can present the 
correct picture about Assam and the North East. Sanjoy Hazarika has 
just opened the door for us. He mentioned that the  discussion was 
co-hosted by Stephen Cohen, a friend of India, who is at Brookings, and 
Mutthiah Alagappa of the East-West Centre; We need to explore more about 
these individuals for future. May be we can explore to see if we can make it 
possible to bring Sanjoy Hazarika for more presentation in such other 
international platforms or by any other for that matter.
 
Rajen .
 

   

Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

2005-11-08 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da,
 
This seems like a good development. Hopefully more people will take up the matter at World Bank - which is also in DC and at UN which is nearby at New York. Partha Gogoi's and Sanjoy Hazarika's comments together give a good picture. Just wish we had transcript of what they said since -- we could also be enlightened like the folks at Brookings.
 
UmeshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Chandan:
We must try to see the event in right perspective. If you do that, we (guys from Assam or NE) will not be looking at the presentation to find anything new (in fact there is nothing new for us to know about NE), but to find that Assam and the NE has been preented at all, ever, in an International NGO Research platform like Brookings Institute. in Washington, DC. 
The problem, or the root of the proble, of Assam and the NE has been complete ignorance, mis-representation and confusion about the region from all quarters, within and outside India.  Only people who can change the situation are the people of Assam & NE. As such this has been an opportunity let others know what is happening in Assam and the NE.
 
From that angle, this presentation was very important. Brookings Institute has organized and invited these three individuals from India to talk about Assam and NE. We are proud that Sanjoy Hazarika happens to be one of the speakers. (We don't have to know what exactly what he spoke here, because we know what he will speak to prsent the right picture).
 
(For those who donot know much about Sanjoy Hazarika, I can summarize his achievements in the following sentence: He is a hard working Assamese journalist of high caliber, who, among other things, visited and dined with Phizo; who wrote such classic books as 'The Strangers in the Mist', "The Rites of Passage" etc giving the complete no-nonsense story of the insurgencies and the immigration problems in NE; who recently won the an award from the World Bank for designing the 'Ship of Hope', a unique but simple boat for the Flood Victims in Assam and who produced the documentary "Brahmaputra", and who I found to be a dedicated hard working young Assamese who is presently engaged for the welfare on the entire people of NE without any prejudice. See more of Sanjoy Hazarika in www.c-nes.com).
 
Partha Gogoi from Washington DC who attended the presentation wrote about the workshop thus,"On the workshop, there was no presentation in the form of a slide-show as such. The three key-note speakers were asked to talk for at least 15 minutes about their views on the North East. There were several heavyweights in the crowd - Salman Haider (India's previous Foreign Secy - was basically India's top diplomat), Swaminathan Aiyer (writes Swaminomics in Times of India and based out of DC), Amnesty International Director, Stephen Cohen who's an expert on South Asian affairs and several interested Americans who seemed to know about Phizo and the Naga insurgency."
 
What we need is to find what the other two key note speakers, namely Lieutenant-General VK Raghavan, former DG Military Operations of the Indian Army, and Samir K Das of Calcutta University spoke about. As a community from Assam, what we can and should do, in my opinion, is to find out more about the Brookings Institute and other such organizations where we can present the correct picture about Assam and the North East. Sanjoy Hazarika has just opened the door for us. He mentioned that the  discussion was co-hosted by Stephen Cohen, a friend of India, who is at Brookings, and Mutthiah Alagappa of the East-West Centre; We need to explore more about these individuals for future. May be we can explore to see if we can make it possible to bring Sanjoy Hazarika for more presentation in such other international platforms or by any other for that matter.
 
Rajen .
 

- Original Message - 
From: Chan Mahanta 
To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

Thanks for forwarding it Rajen.


I looked up the Statesman site. I know SH is very knowledgeable about NE issues, and was thus looking forward to seeing something informative to be updated with.

But aside from the name-dropping I learned precious little more. Did I miss something?
 
c

At 11:30 PM -0600 11/7/05, Barua25 wrote:
Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC
 
Sanjoy Hazarika writes:
 
Dear Barua:
 
We had an excellent discussion at Brookings, the first such public event on the NE in decades (perhaps ever in DC) and we could press a few home truths and outline concerns and issues.  You may looknat my column on the event at www.thestatesman.net (link is NE page and my column, North by North East). The nE Page appears every Saturday ion the Statesman and is the only rpt only platform for the NE that is read the same day in Delhi, Kolkata, Bhuvaneswar and S

Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

2005-11-08 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Was



Chandan:
We must try to see the event in right 
perspective. If you do that, we (guys from Assam or NE) will not be looking at 
the presentation to find anything new (in fact there is nothing new for us to 
know about NE), but to find that Assam and the NE has been preented at all, 
ever, in an International NGO Research platform like Brookings Institute. 
in Washington, DC. 
The problem, or the root of the 
proble, of Assam and the NE has been complete ignorance, 
mis-representation and confusion about the region from all quarters, within 
and outside India.  Only people who 
can change the situation are the people of Assam & NE. As such this has 
been an opportunity let others know what is happening in Assam and the 
NE.
 
From that angle, this presentation 
was very important. Brookings Institute has organized and invited these 
three individuals from India to talk about Assam and NE. We are proud that 
Sanjoy Hazarika happens to be one of the speakers. (We don't have to know what 
exactly what he spoke here, because we know what he will speak to prsent the 
right picture).
 
(For those who donot know much about 
Sanjoy Hazarika, I can summarize his achievements in the following 
sentence: He is a hard working Assamese journalist of high caliber, who, among 
other things, visited and dined with Phizo; who wrote such 
classic books as 'The Strangers in the Mist', "The Rites of Passage" etc 
giving the complete no-nonsense story of the insurgencies and the 
immigration problems in NE; who recently won the an award from the World 
Bank for designing the 'Ship of Hope', a unique but simple boat for 
the Flood Victims in Assam and who produced the documentary "Brahmaputra", and 
who I found to be a dedicated hard working young Assamese who is 
presently engaged for the welfare on the entire people of NE without any 
prejudice. See more of Sanjoy Hazarika in www.c-nes.com).
 
Partha Gogoi from Washington DC who 
attended the presentation wrote about the workshop thus,"On the workshop, 
there was no presentation in the form of a slide-show as such. The three 
key-note speakers were asked to talk for at least 15 minutes about their views 
on the North East. There were several heavyweights in the crowd - Salman Haider 
(India's previous Foreign Secy - was basically India's top diplomat), 
Swaminathan Aiyer (writes Swaminomics in Times of India and based out of DC), 
Amnesty International Director, Stephen Cohen who's an expert on South Asian 
affairs and several interested Americans who seemed to know about Phizo and the 
Naga insurgency."
 
What we need is to find what the 
other two key note speakers, namely Lieutenant-General VK Raghavan, former 
DG Military Operations of the Indian Army, and Samir K Das of Calcutta 
University spoke about. As a community from Assam, what we can and 
should do, in my opinion, is to find out more about the Brookings Institute and 
other such organizations where we can present the correct picture 
about Assam and the North East. Sanjoy Hazarika has just opened the door 
for us. He mentioned that the  discussion was co-hosted by Stephen 
Cohen, a friend of India, who is at Brookings, and Mutthiah Alagappa of the 
East-West Centre; We need to explore more about these individuals for future. 
May be we can explore to see if we can make it possible to bring Sanjoy Hazarika 
for more presentation in such other international platforms or by any other for 
that matter.
 
Rajen .
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chan 
  Mahanta 
  To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:28 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: 
  Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC
  
  Thanks for forwarding it Rajen.
  
  
  I looked up the Statesman site. I know SH is very knowledgeable about NE 
  issues, and was thus looking forward to seeing something informative to be 
  updated with.
  
  But aside from the name-dropping I learned precious little more. Did I 
  miss something?
   
  c
  
  At 11:30 PM -0600 11/7/05, Barua25 wrote:
  Making Sense of the NE in Washington 
DC
   
  Sanjoy Hazarika 
  writes:
   
  Dear 
  Barua:
   
  We had an excellent discussion at Brookings, 
the first such public event on the NE in decades (perhaps 
ever in DC) and we could press a few home truths 
and outline concerns and issues.  You may looknat 
my column on the event at www.thestatesman.net (link 
is NE page and my column, North by North East). The 
nE Page appears every Saturday ion the Statesman and 
is the only rpt only platform for the NE that is read 
the same day in Delhi, Kolkata, Bhuvaneswar and 
Siliguri and on the net, unlike other papers which publish 
NE supplemnts for circulation in the NE only
  Sanjoy Hazarika:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  You may see more of 
his act

Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

2005-11-08 Thread mc mahant
<<
Nothing at all.
Some people think he has some great intellectual qualities.
Others think "He is quite flexible--can't blame him".
 NYT ! -now down to  the Statesman.
mm


From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DCDate: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:28:16 -0600



Thanks for forwarding it Rajen.


I looked up the Statesman site. I know SH is very knowledgeable about NE issues, and was thus looking forward to seeing something informative to be updated with.



But aside from the name-dropping I learned precious little more. Did I miss something?


c










At 11:30 PM -0600 11/7/05, Barua25 wrote:
Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC
 
Sanjoy Hazarika writes:
 
Dear Barua:
 
We had an excellent discussion at Brookings, the first such public event on the NE in decades (perhaps ever in DC) and we could press a few home truths and outline concerns and issues.  You may looknat my column on the event at www.thestatesman.net (link is NE page and my column, North by North East). The nE Page appears every Saturday ion the Statesman and is the only rpt only platform for the NE that is read the same day in Delhi, Kolkata, Bhuvaneswar and Siliguri and on the net, unlike other papers which publish NE supplemnts for circulation in the NE only
Sanjoy Hazarika:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may see more of his activities by visiting his web page www.c-nes.org (Center for NE Studies)
-
From the NE Page of the Statesman
North by North East: Sanjoy Hazarika: Making sense of the N-E in Washington
At 3-30 pm on Thursday evening, Washington hosted its first public event on the North-East (at least I do not recall, in 23 years of travelling to the US capital, of a similar event) – and I was privileged to be among those who made presentations on the situation in the region.The others included Lieutenant-General VK Raghavan, former DG Military Operations of the Indian Army, and Samir K Das of Calcutta University. The discussions were held at the Brookings institute and drew a range of academics, serving and former officials from the US administration, journalists and human rights activists.We covered the Naga imbroglio and Ulfa as well as the role of the military, the region and its neighbours, the Look East Policy, economics, ethnicity and migration. It was a fairly comprehensive list and participants asked good, sharp questions on several issues, including the 
earlier CPI-M support to migration from Bangladesh, which it has since discontinued.Whenever we cover the North-east to a new and especially Western audience, one is concerned that we may end up confusing the audience instead of clarifying the situation, of such complexities is our region.The discussion was co-hosted by Stephen Cohen, a friend of India, who is at Brookings, and Mutthiah Alagappa of the East-West Centre; the latter had just concluded an exhausting four-day workshop elsewhere in the capital on armed conflicts in Asia.In the past days, one has talked with persons from other countries who are going through similar if not worse crisis than what the North-east is struggling with: Nepal and Sri Lanka, Thailand and Myanmar (Burma).In each of these nations, the peripheral borders cause the “maximum trouble” to the states. One was struck by the difficulties faced 
by ordinary researchers in gathering information; a Thai professor even went so far as to say that it would be unsafe for a Thai researcher to work in a Muslim-dominated belt in non-Thai areas in southern Thailand where vigilante groups and political and religious pressures dominate.In the North-east, the threats to ordinary citizens and professionals as well as media still exist. We have seen reference to this, and take encouragement from the position of the Manipur media which recently passed a resolution saying it would not be browbeaten by the underground.
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Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE in Washington DC

2005-11-08 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Sanjoy Hazarika: Making Sense of the NE
in Was


Thanks for forwarding it Rajen.


I looked up the Statesman site. I know SH is very knowledgeable
about NE issues, and was thus looking forward to seeing something
informative to be updated with.



But aside from the name-dropping I learned precious little more.
Did I miss something?


c










At 11:30 PM -0600 11/7/05, Barua25 wrote:
Making Sense of the NE in
Washington DC
 
Sanjoy Hazarika
writes:
 
Dear
Barua:
 
We had an excellent discussion at
Brookings, the first
 such public event on the NE in decades (perhaps ever
 in DC) and we could press a few home truths and
 outline concerns and issues.  You may looknat my
 column on the event at www.thestatesman.net (link
is
 NE page and my column, North by North East). The nE
 Page appears every Saturday ion the Statesman and is
 the only rpt only platform for the NE that is read the
 same day in Delhi, Kolkata, Bhuvaneswar and Siliguri
 and on the net, unlike other papers which publish NE
 supplemnts for circulation in the NE only
Sanjoy Hazarika:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may see
more of his activities by visiting his web page www.c-nes.org
(Center for NE Studies)
-

From the NE Page of
the Statesman

North by North
East: Sanjoy Hazarika: Making sense of the N-E in
Washington

At 3-30 pm on Thursday evening,
Washington hosted its first public event on the North-East (at least I
do not recall, in 23 years of travelling to the US capital, of a
similar event) – and I was privileged to be among those who made
presentations on the situation in the region.
The others included Lieutenant-General VK Raghavan, former DG Military
Operations of the Indian Army, and Samir K Das of Calcutta University.
The discussions were held at the Brookings institute and drew a range
of academics, serving and former officials from the US administration,
journalists and human rights activists.
We covered the Naga imbroglio and Ulfa as well as the role of the
military, the region and its neighbours, the Look East Policy,
economics, ethnicity and migration. It was a fairly comprehensive list
and participants asked good, sharp questions on several issues,
including the earlier CPI-M support to migration from Bangladesh,
which it has since discontinued.
Whenever we cover the North-east to a new and especially Western
audience, one is concerned that we may end up confusing the audience
instead of clarifying the situation, of such complexities is our
region.
The discussion was co-hosted by Stephen Cohen, a friend of India, who
is at Brookings, and Mutthiah Alagappa of the East-West Centre; the
latter had just concluded an exhausting four-day workshop elsewhere in
the capital on armed conflicts in Asia.
In the past days, one has talked with persons from other countries who
are going through similar if not worse crisis than what the North-east
is struggling with: Nepal and Sri Lanka, Thailand and Myanmar
(Burma).
In each of these nations, the peripheral borders cause the “maximum
trouble” to the states. One was struck by the difficulties faced by
ordinary researchers in gathering information; a Thai professor even
went so far as to say that it would be unsafe for a Thai researcher to
work in a Muslim-dominated belt in non-Thai areas in southern Thailand
where vigilante groups and political and religious pressures
dominate.
In the North-east, the threats to ordinary citizens and professionals
as well as media still exist. We have seen reference to this, and take
encouragement from the position of the Manipur media which recently
passed a resolution saying it would not be browbeaten by the
underground.

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