Re: [Assam] Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
> It is easy to jump to conclusions, but is wrong. > !!! Obviously !! Probably all of us know that. > In fairness to British undercover agents, they > watched the residents > of the address. But they did not know, that there > were more than the > suspects living in that address--it was a housing > complex. They had > no idea that a Brazilian > family lived in the same building too. !!! Hey C'da , let's not just jump into conclusions just like that. Ends justify means but not neccessarily at the cost of humane lives. We are not entitled to snub out lives based on mere suspicions. After 7/7 or 9/11 , the bottomline is '' eVERY MORTAL is innocent till pronounced guilty " Regards Jayanta --- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is easy to jump to conclusions, but is wrong. > > In fairness to British undercover agents, they > watched the residents > of the address. But they did not know, that there > were more than the > suspects living in that address--it was a housing > complex. They had > no idea that a Brazilian > family lived in the same building too. > > > > > At 5:39 PM -0500 7/25/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > >Did they really observe him? I don't think so. > Had they done so -- > >they would have >realized that he is a Brazilian -- > so has no > >connection with bombings. > > > >I think you are right. > > > >With all their 'watching', it looks like they not > doing a great job. > > > >If looks more and more as if they were just > watching the station and > >singling out South Asians. > > > >--Ram da > > > > > > > >On 7/25/05, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> I am still wondering whether the policemen in > plainclothes are really > >> telling the truth. Initially it was mentioned > that they had been observing > >> the guy for a few days before they entered his > house and he ran. Now they > >> are saying that that he is a Brazilian who had > NO connection with the > >> terrorist. -- So why where they observing him? > >> > >> > >> > >> Did they really observe him? I don't think so. > Had they done so -- they > >> would have realized that he is a Brazilian -- so > has no connection with > >> bombings. > >> > >> I think they never really chased him to the > train station > >> > >> They were just watching people inside the metro > station - in their plain > >> clothes. Saw this brown skinned guy entering the > train in a thick coat. They > >> called out to him - he didn't respond -- so they > panicked (and also became > >> angry.) > >> > >> They killed him in cold blood -- thinking him to > be a South Asian. Had he > >> really been a muslim or a South Asian -- noone > would ever have doubted their > >> story that they had really been observing him > iun his house. > >> > >> Why don't they give proof ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Why don't they show the metro station video - in > which he is shown running > >> inside the station -- and the police are chasing > him? Every metro station > >> has video cameras at their entrance and > corridors. > >> > >> They never really chased him insde the station. > They had suspicion and just > >> killed him -- or else show proof! > >> > >> Now I understand why British police is accused > of racism by all minority > >> residents . Doesn't such a scenario happen in > Assam or Manipur? > >> > >> Umesh > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rini Kakati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How important these police officers are -- when > it comes to the suicide > >> bomber threat we face today, these people are > the gatekeepers between us and > >> the people trying to kill us. > >> > >> So it is vital these highly trained > professionals have the confidence of > >> their bosses and the ordinary public. > >> > >> If they don't have that, it might lead them to > hesitate -- that split second > >> could be the difference between life and death > for hundreds of people. > >> > >> The Brazilian was quite simply in the wrong > place, doing totally the wrong > >> thing at the wrong time. Yet why he made a run > for it, despite challenges > >> from police to stop, remains to be explained. > Every one will understand the > >> awful dilemma faced by the armed officer. To > hold fire and risk more > >> bloodshed, or shoot to kill. > >> > >> Rini Kakati > >> > >> > _ > > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN > Messenger 7.0 today! > >> http://messenger.msn.co.uk > >> > >> ___ > >> Assam mailing list > >> Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu > >> http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > >> > >> Mailing list FAQ: > >> http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > >> To unsubscribe or change options: > >> http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > >> > >> > >> > >> Can't remember an address in your address book? > Enter the first
Re: [Assam] Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
It is easy to jump to conclusions, but is wrong. In fairness to British undercover agents, they watched the residents of the address. But they did not know, that there were more than the suspects living in that address--it was a housing complex. They had no idea that a Brazilian family lived in the same building too. But I will readily agree that brown skinned people who look like South Asians or mid-easterner are being profiled. Funny thing is that it is nothing new. I have been extremely annoyed by Netherlands security guards at Amsterdam, any number of times, because they looked at all us brown folks as security risks, long before 9/11. Was it an example of good British police work? Hell no. I am sure they knew about their deadly mistake within hours, but did not 'fess up to it. They expressed regrets, but offered no apology. Good thing though that Blair had the decency to do so. At 5:39 PM -0500 7/25/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they would have >realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with bombings. I think you are right. With all their 'watching', it looks like they not doing a great job. If looks more and more as if they were just watching the station and singling out South Asians. --Ram da On 7/25/05, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am still wondering whether the policemen in plainclothes are really telling the truth. Initially it was mentioned that they had been observing the guy for a few days before they entered his house and he ran. Now they are saying that that he is a Brazilian who had NO connection with the terrorist. -- So why where they observing him? Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they would have realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with bombings. I think they never really chased him to the train station They were just watching people inside the metro station - in their plain clothes. Saw this brown skinned guy entering the train in a thick coat. They called out to him - he didn't respond -- so they panicked (and also became angry.) They killed him in cold blood -- thinking him to be a South Asian. Had he really been a muslim or a South Asian -- noone would ever have doubted their story that they had really been observing him iun his house. Why don't they give proof ? Why don't they show the metro station video - in which he is shown running inside the station -- and the police are chasing him? Every metro station has video cameras at their entrance and corridors. They never really chased him insde the station. They had suspicion and just killed him -- or else show proof! Now I understand why British police is accused of racism by all minority residents . Doesn't such a scenario happen in Assam or Manipur? Umesh Rini Kakati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How important these police officers are -- when it comes to the suicide bomber threat we face today, these people are the gatekeepers between us and the people trying to kill us. So it is vital these highly trained professionals have the confidence of their bosses and the ordinary public. If they don't have that, it might lead them to hesitate -- that split second could be the difference between life and death for hundreds of people. The Brazilian was quite simply in the wrong place, doing totally the wrong thing at the wrong time. Yet why he made a run for it, despite challenges from police to stop, remains to be explained. Every one will understand the awful dilemma faced by the armed officer. To hold fire and risk more bloodshed, or shoot to kill. Rini Kakati _ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Can't remember an address in your address book? Enter the first few letters and Address AutoComplete will automatically finish it. Get Yahoo! Mail ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam __
Re: [Assam] Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
>Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they would have >realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with bombings. I think you are right. With all their 'watching', it looks like they not doing a great job. If looks more and more as if they were just watching the station and singling out South Asians. --Ram da On 7/25/05, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am still wondering whether the policemen in plainclothes are really > telling the truth. Initially it was mentioned that they had been observing > the guy for a few days before they entered his house and he ran. Now they > are saying that that he is a Brazilian who had NO connection with the > terrorist. -- So why where they observing him? > > > > Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they > would have realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with > bombings. > > I think they never really chased him to the train station > > They were just watching people inside the metro station - in their plain > clothes. Saw this brown skinned guy entering the train in a thick coat. They > called out to him - he didn't respond -- so they panicked (and also became > angry.) > > They killed him in cold blood -- thinking him to be a South Asian. Had he > really been a muslim or a South Asian -- noone would ever have doubted their > story that they had really been observing him iun his house. > > Why don't they give proof ? > > > > Why don't they show the metro station video - in which he is shown running > inside the station -- and the police are chasing him? Every metro station > has video cameras at their entrance and corridors. > > They never really chased him insde the station. They had suspicion and just > killed him -- or else show proof! > > Now I understand why British police is accused of racism by all minority > residents . Doesn't such a scenario happen in Assam or Manipur? > > Umesh > > > > > > > > Rini Kakati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How important these police officers are -- when it comes to the suicide > bomber threat we face today, these people are the gatekeepers between us and > the people trying to kill us. > > So it is vital these highly trained professionals have the confidence of > their bosses and the ordinary public. > > If they don't have that, it might lead them to hesitate -- that split second > could be the difference between life and death for hundreds of people. > > The Brazilian was quite simply in the wrong place, doing totally the wrong > thing at the wrong time. Yet why he made a run for it, despite challenges > from police to stop, remains to be explained. Every one will understand the > awful dilemma faced by the armed officer. To hold fire and risk more > bloodshed, or shoot to kill. > > Rini Kakati > > _ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! > http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > ___ > Assam mailing list > Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > Mailing list FAQ: > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > To unsubscribe or change options: > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > > > > Can't remember an address in your address book? Enter the first few letters > and Address AutoComplete will automatically finish it. Get Yahoo! Mail > > > ___ > Assam mailing list > Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > Mailing list FAQ: > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > To unsubscribe or change options: > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > > > ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
I am still wondering whether the policemen in plainclothes are really telling the truth. Initially it was mentioned that they had been observing the guy for a few days before they entered his house and he ran. Now they are saying that that he is a Brazilian who had NO connection with the terrorist. -- So why where they observing him? Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they would have realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with bombings. I think they never really chased him to the train station They were just watching people inside the metro station - in their plain clothes. Saw this brown skinned guy entering the train in a thick coat. They called out to him - he didn't respond -- so they panicked (and also became angry.) They killed him in cold blood -- thinking him to be a South Asian. Had he really been a muslim or a South Asian -- noone would ever have doubted their story that they had really been observing him iun his house. Why don't they give proof ? Why don't they show the metro station video - in which he is shown running inside the station -- and the police are chasing him? Every metro station has video cameras at their entrance and corridors. They never really chased him insde the station. They had suspicion and just killed him -- or else show proof! Now I understand why British police is accused of racism by all minority residents . Doesn't such a scenario happen in Assam or Manipur? Umesh Rini Kakati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How important these police officers are -- when it comes to the suicide bomber threat we face today, these people are the gatekeepers between us and the people trying to kill us.So it is vital these highly trained professionals have the confidence of their bosses and the ordinary public.If they don't have that, it might lead them to hesitate -- that split second could be the difference between life and death for hundreds of people.The Brazilian was quite simply in the wrong place, doing totally the wrong thing at the wrong time. Yet why he made a run for it, despite challenges from police to stop, remains to be explained. Every one will understand the awful dilemma faced by the armed officer. To hold fire and risk more bloodshed, or shoot to kill.Rini Kakati_It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Can't remember an address in your address book? Enter the first few letters and Address AutoComplete will automatically finish it. Get Yahoo! Mail___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
