[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
Ambani is Ambani bcoz he didnot spend his time discussing who gifted what to their own wives or others' wives. Assamonline guys shd grow up do something themselves instead of wasting time in endless discussions. Bhaskar Barua --- Bijoy Kumar Pait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3813 - moderator appended - From: Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 8:28 pm Subject: Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati I think what Mr. Kashyap was trying to point out was abandoning of the BAU (Business As Usual) for the one day Mass Hysteria. Manoj On Nov 6, 2007 7:24 PM, sushanta talukdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3807 From: bhaskar barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati It's only a question of demand supply.Popularity of cricket is more therefore more money is flowing into it. So it's just useless to oppose cricket or any other sport just bcoz it's more polular is able to attract money(govt/corporate etc). At one time football hockey were more popular but then you can't play this game in the gallis corridors unlike cricket. therefore cricket became more popular. Abt Ambani gifting his wife a costly gift it's nobody's business. Rightly said about the peon.Next time a street beggar will oppose one of us for giving a card to a friend bcoz it's too expensive for him as he could have bought a day's food with the money. How can people be so foolish ? Bhaskar --- Rajni Brahma Basumatary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3805 From: A.c. Barua Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:34 pm Subject: Re: [asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati dear monoj, very well informed rejoinder. congrates On 11/7/07, Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3811
[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
We want Tata's and Mittals, but not Ambani... Don't we Dear Mr.Das? BKPait Manager: ISOM 7886 Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/7/2007 6:42 AM Ditto Rajni! I have great regards for Umesh's wisdom and judgement, but the headline of his last email on Ambani's gift was something out of place. Mukesh's billions belong to him legally, he is free to dump it in the Arabian Sea, we needn't bother about that. Ambanis and Mittals are different genre of entrepreneurship. Mittal initially bought sick steel plants cheap from governments and turned those around with Indian management skills. He leveraged his Brand Equity(BE) to play in the market, and bought many more plants and ultimately Arcelor to became the largest producer of steel in the world. I feel he has all his eggs in one basket and current boom in the steel business is due to the break neck consumption of steel in China due to the Olympics and construction boom in BRIC countries. He nonetheless epitomizes the Indian entrepreneurship abroad. Ambanis' greatness lies in creating world scale production facilities in India. They like any other successful people found to trick to tackle the system, against which we should not have any grudge; we might just have plain green envy. They have invested in greenfield projects on mega scale and leveraged the BE to raise funds from millions of small/other investors to create wealth. They must have siphoned off large chunks as any businessman do- but it's possibly legal otherwise they would have been behind bars. I am proud that we have great entrepreneurs like Ambani, who will propel India into a great industrial power and someday buy Exxon-Mobil, GM, ATT, PEPSI or Coca-Cola and gift their wives some islands in the Pacific Atoll on birthdays as exclusive resorts. A quick 'jhalak' at what Ambani Sr. is doing to create a personal wealth of $100 Bn by 2012. 1. Refinery: Existing one with capacity of 30 MMT per year. Another 100% Export Oriented refinery of 27 MMT under construction at Jamnagar costing $6 Bn. together with the existing one, it will be the world's largest refinery in 2008. 2. Oil Gas: Reliance is ambitiously exploring fossil fuels in India and Overseas. Size: 425000 Km. It has drilled 51 exploratory wells with a success rate of 61%. Location: Krishna Godavari Basin (Deep sea exploration at 4.8 Km). depth of pipeline 3 Km. Building pipeline grid (6500 km) across the country to market the gas with current reserve of 11.3 Trillion Cu Ft. Currently training 9000 welders, fitters at Jamnagar Craft Training School. Stopgap labour import from China- 6000. Investment: $9 Bn 3. Retail: It is shooting for a slice of the growing retail market (Rs. 16 cr now). In less than a year it already has 300 outlets in 30 cities and 12 states. Through retail it plans to create 5 lakh jobs, and give farmers better planting material, more value for products and assured market. The roll out includes from fresh vegetables to garments. Plan to cover 2500 towns, 120 million sg ft. Investment: $9 Bn 4. Special Econimic Zones (SEZs): Setting up 4 SEZs in Jhajhar, Jamnagar, Raigad and Navi Mumbai spread across 300 sq km. Investment: $ 6.5 Bn. These will be Indian's shopfloors to counter China's competitiveness. Now RIL makes Rs. 14 crore ($3.5 Mn) per hour. This year it will have a turnover of Rs. 128000 crores ($32 Bn) and net profit of Rs. 15000 crores ($3.75 Bn). By 2009 RIL will generate cash reserves of Rs. 6 ($ 12 Bn) a year and by 2012, challenge for Mukesh will be to invest Rs. 30 ($75 Bn) profitably. If he spends portion of his money for personal gratification, we must excuse. After all it's giving employment to those at Seattle:) Currently Mukeshbhai is building his 360 degree sea view mansion of 60 floors at Altamont Road with a home theatre, lap pool, helipad at an investment of Rs. 600 crores. Era of Indian commercial colonialism may have just began- beware west...just joking:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3805
[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
I myself am against the glorification of the silly game called cricket and the lime light it hogs dwarfing other interesting games such as football and hokey. As Dilip Deka has rightly said in his mail, man does not live on bread alone. If you can buy your favorite book from your neighborhood bookshop why go to a book fair? If you can find DVDs of certain films in the market why organize a film fest? So on and so forth Passing tart remarks on peoples earning and personal wealth is clichéd and straight jacketed. Events like National Games, ODIs not only help uplift spirit of local people but also bring cosmetic changes, if not more in the happening city. If a match has caused inconvenience for the neighborhood, dont criticize the event, rather provide constructive ideas how the infrastructure could be improved for such events in the city. Regarding Mukesh Ambanis gift to his wife: It is his money and his dear wife, for Gods sake! If you gift a pair of silk mekhela sador to your wife on her birth day should your peon protest just because he could gift his wife only a pair of kopahi mekhela sador? Lets think rational and express our thinking moderately. Superlatives do not serve any purpose. Rajni B B http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3800
[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
And if you read the last paragraph of top headline news in The Telegraph (Guwahati edition) dated 6-Nov-2007, it was the unruly crowd that led to the abandonment of the last ODI in Guwahati. That's how media reports reverse the facts! The Telegraph (Guwahati edition) is not available online. Tasiruddin Ahmed On Nov 6, 2007 8:05 AM, Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3800
[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
I am not opposed to holding of ODI as there are many people who love cricket and want to enjoy an ODI in their own place. However, can anyone explain me rationale behind declaring a local holiday by the government in Guwahati so that everyone can take a break and enjoy the game? Should we not consider it as a loss of manday at the behest of the government as we do in case of a bandh called by an organisation to press for some demand? Also we certainly cannot equate holding of an ODI to holding it of Olympics. The National Games certainly brought mega sports infrastructure to the city and the state for the benefit of sportspersons and was not just an event to showcase to outside world. Is there any example of any sports infrastructure coming up as a consequence of holding an ODI. Sushanta Talukdar Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you need an ODI in Guwahati? Because man does not live on bread alone. There are certain things a community does to lift its spirit. The ODI is one of them. Why otherwise so many would line up for ticket and get disappointed? I heard that there are 8000 seats in the stadium and 3500 were already assigned to organizers and government officials. Is that true? If it is, it is a shame. I could understand 500 being assigned to organizers but 3500? Why does China hold the olympics? The practical people they are, they should've cared little for the olympics. But no, they wanted to show off to the world that they have moved up. Dilip Deka samudra gupta kashyap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while reading mrinal talukdar's msg on ambani's gift for his wife, what came to my mind today is the collosal wastage of funds and energy that has been incurred in holding an useless cricket match between india and pakistan in guwahati. virtualy the entire police force availabe in the capital has been pressed into service in the name of law and order, while ordinary citizens, most of them tax-payers, with whose tax the policeman gets his salary etc, living within about one km radius of the nehru stadium are being kept under house arrest because some 22 players (who earn huge sums as match fee and prize money,and who has not a single naya paise contribution for the well-being of a poor and backward state called assam) are vying for a trophy that cannot and does not in any way contribute towards the development of the people of the state. the holding of this cricket match itself is a gross violation of human rights for a large number of citizens of guwahati, because say, if a person residing in chenikuthi is required to removed to the guwahati medical college hospital for any emergency ranging from a child birth to a massive heart attack, will not be allowed to take the b barooah road, simply because some 17,000 persons -- who have nothing else to do -- will be watching two teams play a game called cricket. samudra gupta kashyap Re: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3791
[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
Ditto Rajni! I have great regards for Umesh's wisdom and judgement, but the headline of his last email on Ambani's gift was something out of place. Mukesh's billions belong to him legally, he is free to dump it in the Arabian Sea, we needn't bother about that. Ambanis and Mittals are different genre of entrepreneurship. Mittal initially bought sick steel plants cheap from governments and turned those around with Indian management skills. He leveraged his Brand Equity(BE) to play in the market, and bought many more plants and ultimately Arcelor to became the largest producer of steel in the world. I feel he has all his eggs in one basket and current boom in the steel business is due to the break neck consumption of steel in China due to the Olympics and construction boom in BRIC countries. He nonetheless epitomizes the Indian entrepreneurship abroad. Ambanis' greatness lies in creating world scale production facilities in India. They like any other successful people found to trick to tackle the system, against which we should not have any grudge; we might just have plain green envy. They have invested in greenfield projects on mega scale and leveraged the BE to raise funds from millions of small/other investors to create wealth. They must have siphoned off large chunks as any businessman do- but it's possibly legal otherwise they would have been behind bars. I am proud that we have great entrepreneurs like Ambani, who will propel India into a great industrial power and someday buy Exxon-Mobil, GM, ATT, PEPSI or Coca-Cola and gift their wives some islands in the Pacific Atoll on birthdays as exclusive resorts. A quick 'jhalak' at what Ambani Sr. is doing to create a personal wealth of $100 Bn by 2012. 1. Refinery: Existing one with capacity of 30 MMT per year. Another 100% Export Oriented refinery of 27 MMT under construction at Jamnagar costing $6 Bn. together with the existing one, it will be the world's largest refinery in 2008. 2. Oil Gas: Reliance is ambitiously exploring fossil fuels in India and Overseas. Size: 425000 Km. It has drilled 51 exploratory wells with a success rate of 61%. Location: Krishna Godavari Basin (Deep sea exploration at 4.8 Km). depth of pipeline 3 Km. Building pipeline grid (6500 km) across the country to market the gas with current reserve of 11.3 Trillion Cu Ft. Currently training 9000 welders, fitters at Jamnagar Craft Training School. Stopgap labour import from China- 6000. Investment: $9 Bn 3. Retail: It is shooting for a slice of the growing retail market (Rs. 16 cr now). In less than a year it already has 300 outlets in 30 cities and 12 states. Through retail it plans to create 5 lakh jobs, and give farmers better planting material, more value for products and assured market. The roll out includes from fresh vegetables to garments. Plan to cover 2500 towns, 120 million sg ft. Investment: $9 Bn 4. Special Econimic Zones (SEZs): Setting up 4 SEZs in Jhajhar, Jamnagar, Raigad and Navi Mumbai spread across 300 sq km. Investment: $ 6.5 Bn. These will be Indian's shopfloors to counter China's competitiveness. Now RIL makes Rs. 14 crore ($3.5 Mn) per hour. This year it will have a turnover of Rs. 128000 crores ($32 Bn) and net profit of Rs. 15000 crores ($3.75 Bn). By 2009 RIL will generate cash reserves of Rs. 6 ($ 12 Bn) a year and by 2012, challenge for Mukesh will be to invest Rs. 30 ($75 Bn) profitably. If he spends portion of his money for personal gratification, we must excuse. After all it's giving employment to those at Seattle:) Currently Mukeshbhai is building his 360 degree sea view mansion of 60 floors at Altamont Road with a home theatre, lap pool, helipad at an investment of Rs. 600 crores. Era of Indian commercial colonialism may have just began- beware west...just joking:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3805 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Ambani's gift and an ODI in Guwahati
Why do you need an ODI in Guwahati? Because man does not live on bread alone. There are certain things a community does to lift its spirit. The ODI is one of them. Why otherwise so many would line up for ticket and get disappointed? I heard that there are 8000 seats in the stadium and 3500 were already assigned to organizers and government officials. Is that true? If it is, it is a shame. I could understand 500 being assigned to organizers but 3500? Why does China hold the olympics? The practical people they are, they should've cared little for the olympics. But no, they wanted to show off to the world that they have moved up. Dilip Deka samudra gupta kashyap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while reading mrinal talukdar's msg on ambani's gift for his wife, what came to my mind today is the collosal wastage of funds and energy that has been incurred in holding an useless cricket match between india and pakistan in guwahati. virtualy the entire police force availabe in the capital has been pressed into service in the name of law and order, while ordinary citizens, most of them tax-payers, with whose tax the policeman gets his salary etc, living within about one km radius of the nehru stadium are being kept under house arrest because some 22 players (who earn huge sums as match fee and prize money,and who has not a single naya paise contribution for the well-being of a poor and backward state called assam) are vying for a trophy that cannot and does not in any way contribute towards the development of the people of the state. the holding of this cricket match itself is a gross violation of human rights for a large number of citizens of guwahati, because say, if a person residing in chenikuthi is required to removed to the guwahati medical college hospital for any emergency ranging from a child birth to a massive heart attack, will not be allowed to take the b barooah road, simply because some 17,000 persons -- who have nothing else to do -- will be watching two teams play a game called cricket. samudra gupta kashyap Re: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3791
