Re: Length question

2013-04-14 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
Up until 18 months ago, we had a billion dollar, as in giga, customer running 
on MP2003s using OS/390 1.3.  If we had told them that they would have to 
upgrade to a current operating system based on IBM's support schedule along 
with the corresponding hardware upgrade, we would never have made that sale in 
1999 nor been gainfully employed providing support for the past decade and a 
half.

Pontificate all you want but those of us whose organizations and jobs depend on 
serving the customer within his political and financial constraints make no 
apology for doing so.

BTW, when did making a profit become ignominious?

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-
 l...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Andreas F. Geissbuehler
 Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:55 PM
 To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Length question

 quoting John Gilmore's
   I of course expected this response.  Litanies in defense of the old
  and familiar are recurrent here, but repetition does not make them
  meritorious.  They are of a piece with the suspiciously repetitive,
  insular, risk-averse, mediocre notions that are ruining, have indeed
  largely ruined, the mainframe, a splendid platform that is now used
 in
  mostly ignominious ways.
 
 Sir John, even you and me, for that matter 99.99 % of us
 consumers, we don't waste much thought about the sheer beauty of the
 processor's architecture when we turn up the thermostat, skip a track
 on our MP3 player or withdraw some cash at an ATM.

 S/360 Architecture lovers, the 0.01 %  exception, they enjoy
 playing with MVS 3.8j running at 10x the speed of an IBM 370/168 on
 their own PC, something which 99.99 % of the population doesn't
 understand...  :)

 Andreas F. Geissbuehler


Re: Length question

2013-04-14 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
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 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-
 l...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
 Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:23 AM
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 Subject: Re: Length question

 On 4/14/2013 4:00 AM, EXT-Schwarz, Barry wrote:
  Up until 18 months ago, we had a billion dollar, as in giga, customer
  runningon MP2003s using OS/390 1.3. If we had told them that they
  would have to upgrade
 to a current operating system based on IBM's support schedule along
 with the corresponding hardware upgrade, we would never have made that
 sale in 1999 nor been gainfully employed providing support for the past
 decade and a half.

 So what happened 18 months ago?

After years of being subjected to FUD by various vendors, they upgraded to what 
was current during negotiations, z10s and z/OS 1.11.  Neither is currently 
marketed and at least one is out of support.  And we are not about to tell them 
they should upgrade either.  At least not until there is a business case for 
doing so, which in this customer's case is very unlikely.


Re: Extended Mnemonics After Unsigned Arithmetic

2013-03-19 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
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 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-
 l...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Andreas F. Geissbuehler
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:19 AM
 To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Extended Mnemonics After Unsigned Arithmetic

Snip

 My 2 bits:
 - IBM opcodes will remain [A-Z]

Did you mean first letter or entire name?  Many macro names contain digits and 
at least one contains lower case letters.