Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Hey, would you look at that!  There's a setting for senderbase log
verbosity!  Changing it to verbose, gives me:
Timeout occurred getting results at C:/Perl/site/lib/Net/SenderBas
e/Query/DNS.pm

DNSTimeout was 5 seconds.  Changed to 10, no difference.

Any suggestions?  DNS settings on the server seem fine and are responsive.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Grayhat  wrote:

>
> > Hey Grayhat- been a while...  Thanks for your followup.
>
> Hi there, yes, been (and being ) busy
>
> > I'm using our internal dns servers, without forwarders.  I see DNSBL
> > messages, RWL, etc as expected.
>
> ok, one thing less to check (I hope) :)
>
> > Could a format error in the whiteSenderBase be the culprit?  I don't
> > see an error when it's loaded.  There's 1000+ entries, hard to check
>
> well, maybe, sure or may be due to some check kicking in *before* the
> senderbase one; carefully checking the logs and/or increasing logging
> would be a good idea imVHo
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Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread Grayhat

> Hey Grayhat- been a while...  Thanks for your followup.

Hi there, yes, been (and being ) busy
 
> I'm using our internal dns servers, without forwarders.  I see DNSBL
> messages, RWL, etc as expected.

ok, one thing less to check (I hope) :)
 
> Could a format error in the whiteSenderBase be the culprit?  I don't
> see an error when it's loaded.  There's 1000+ entries, hard to check

well, maybe, sure or may be due to some check kicking in *before* the
senderbase one; carefully checking the logs and/or increasing logging
would be a good idea imVHo

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Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Hey Grayhat- been a while...  Thanks for your followup.

I'm using our internal dns servers, without forwarders.  I see DNSBL
messages, RWL, etc as expected.

Could a format error in the whiteSenderBase be the culprit?  I don't see an
error when it's loaded.  There's 1000+ entries, hard to check manually.  I
suppose I could try just a shorter list, but it'll be hard to test - would
need a domain that should be senderbase ok, but isn't in the cache to send
an email

The code should be querying senderbase.org each time if the entry isn't in
cache right?If so, maybe I'll dive into the code and start logging.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Grayhat  wrote:

> :: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:02:50 -0500
> :: 
> :: K Post  wrote:
>
> > Confirmed that it seems like only the cached entries are working.
> > Every one of the 300+ senderbase matches from today, are from the
> > cache. For example:
> > 199.101.162.46
>
> couple questions:
>
> 1: are there any DNS-related messages in your logs ?
>
> 2: are you using your own (no forwarders) DNS resolvers or are you
>using public resolvers like OpenDNS, Google or whatever else ?
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Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread Grayhat
:: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:02:50 -0500
:: 
:: K Post  wrote:

> Confirmed that it seems like only the cached entries are working.
> Every one of the 300+ senderbase matches from today, are from the
> cache. For example:
> 199.101.162.46

couple questions:

1: are there any DNS-related messages in your logs ?

2: are you using your own (no forwarders) DNS resolvers or are you
   using public resolvers like OpenDNS, Google or whatever else ?


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Re: [Assp-test] module BerkeleyDB 0.54 + BDB engine 6.0.20

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Thanks Thomas.  At some point in the near future, I'm going to be upgrading
our small Win32 box.   Currently we're running an old version of ASSP (I'm
ashamed to say old enough that HMM isn't an option).  No proper database in
use, just flat files for everything.

What's your recommended database being that this will be a new OS install,
but will be migrating over existing data?  We need a db one for HMM right?
I'm planning on using W2k12 r2.  I could use W2k8 r2 instead.  MySQL is an
option.  Berkeley DB too (though I have no experience there).  32 or 64 bit
perl, etc.

Just looking for some updated guidance.

Thanks as always.  I figure ASSP and your work is saving me something like
2 hours a day, which I can devote to managing the it needs of this charity.
 THANKS!  THANKS THANKS!


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> Hi all,
>
> after more than 8 weeks of testing, I've released the module BerkeleyDB
> version 0.54 with BDB engine 6.0.20 for Perl 5.16 and Perl 5.18 (both for
> windows only) at CVS and the default SF download.
>
> There are no longer any memory leaks related to this module.
>
> If you want to upgrade to this version:
>
> - download the archive file and uncompress it
> - stop assp (and any other Perl process on the system!)
> - use cmd and change in to directory with the extracted new BerkeleyDB.ppd
> (and BerkeleyDB.tar.gz) file
> - run >ppm install BerkeleyDB.ppd
> - start assp one time from the commandline
> - (A) check if spamdb and HMMdb contains more than two record (only if
> used and configured) - this is shown at the startup log lines
> - wait until (~3 min) the griplist is updated (only if used and
> configured)
> - stop assp
> - start assp in your regular mode
> - run a rebuildspamdb, if (A) has shown not more than 2 records for any of
> the DB's
>
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Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase White Org regex

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Thanks for the reply Thomas.   I appreciate the - clarification.

Might you consider changing senderbase functionality such that it looks for
an exact match?  I worry about allowing anything from Hosting Service (just
an example) but consider it a network name that we know only sends good,
erroneously matching Bob's Bad Hosting Service too in senderbase...

FYI - I was wondering why so many of my questions have gone unanswered
recently.  Totally not typical for you - I should have known better.  Turns
out the gmail servers were filtering your message to spam!  Irony in its
truest form


On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Thomas Eckardt
wrote:

> 1) \bacer-euro\.com is listed.  Doesn't the - need to be escaped?  (if
> not,
> why not?)
>
> No need to escape the - here. It is required in a character class like
> [fth\-kl] - but not if the - is the last character in a character class
> like [a-z0-9-] see
> http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html#Using-character-classes
> It does not matter to escape the - everywhere in a regex. like
> \bacer\-euro\.com
>
>
> >2) Should we use ^ to indicate beginning of line and $ to indicate end so
> that something like:
> Would ^Hosting Service$ work?
>
> No - assp processes all regexes against the complete target string
> (header, body, mail), there is no line processing!
>
> btw: \bHosting Service
> matches both: "Bob's Hosting Service" and "Hosting Service Inc."
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:K Post 
> An: ASSP development mailing list ,
> Datum:  25.01.2014 18:16
> Betreff:[Assp-test] Senderbase White Org regex
>
>
>
> I just downloaded 2.3.3 and am reviewing the whiteorg.txt sample file for
> SenderBase.
>
> I understand that that \b is necessary to indicate the word boundary.  I
> get that the . needs to be escaped with \ so they don't match any
> character.
>
> Questions:
> 1) \bacer-euro\.com is listed.  Doesn't the - need to be escaped?  (if
> not,
> why not?)
> 2) Should we use ^ to indicate beginning of line and $ to indicate end so
> that something like:
> \bHosting Service  (to match any host in the "Hosting Service" network
> doesn't match "Bob's Hosting Service" or "Hosting Service Inc."
> Would ^Hosting Service$ work?
>
> Thanks all!
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Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Also, I was able to confirm that I can directly query
query.senderbase.orgfrom the machine


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:02 AM, K Post  wrote:

> Confirmed that it seems like only the cached entries are working.  Every
> one of the 300+ senderbase matches from today, are from the cache.
> For example:
> 199.101.162.46 
> to: ouru...@.org [whiting] SenderBase -- White Organization/Domain
> 'LinkedIn Corporation' in cache
> That works great.  Any way to debug why new hits don't seem to be
> happening even though there's emails that should match entries in the
> whiteSenderBase file?  That certainly wasn't the case before.  I don't
> think it's the code, I think it's my setup.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:12 AM, K Post  wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions for debugging SenderBase on 2.x?
>>
>> Sometimes it works, but ASSP doesn't appear to be checking senderbase at
>> all.  I'm wondering if it's only looking at the cache and not attempting to
>> make new queries.  Looking at the log, I don't see white senderbase for
>> messages that I'd expect.  I see nothing on senderbase, not a failure, good
>> or bad.
>>
>> Should senderbase test showup in the mail analyzer?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Confirmed that it seems like only the cached entries are working.  Every
one of the 300+ senderbase matches from today, are from the cache.
For example:
199.101.162.46 
to: ouru...@.org [whiting] SenderBase -- White Organization/Domain
'LinkedIn Corporation' in cache
That works great.  Any way to debug why new hits don't seem to be happening
even though there's emails that should match entries in the whiteSenderBase
file?  That certainly wasn't the case before.  I don't think it's the code,
I think it's my setup.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:12 AM, K Post  wrote:

> Any suggestions for debugging SenderBase on 2.x?
>
> Sometimes it works, but ASSP doesn't appear to be checking senderbase at
> all.  I'm wondering if it's only looking at the cache and not attempting to
> make new queries.  Looking at the log, I don't see white senderbase for
> messages that I'd expect.  I see nothing on senderbase, not a failure, good
> or bad.
>
> Should senderbase test showup in the mail analyzer?
>
>
>
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[Assp-test] Senderbase

2014-01-28 Thread K Post
Any suggestions for debugging SenderBase on 2.x?

Sometimes it works, but ASSP doesn't appear to be checking senderbase at
all.  I'm wondering if it's only looking at the cache and not attempting to
make new queries.  Looking at the log, I don't see white senderbase for
messages that I'd expect.  I see nothing on senderbase, not a failure, good
or bad.

Should senderbase test showup in the mail analyzer?
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[Assp-test] BATV, DSN and Exchange backend

2014-01-28 Thread aquilinux
Hi all,
i'm having an issue dealing with BATV and DSN, not strictly related to ASSP
but i thought it wouldn't harm posting here:
whenever I send a mail to a non-existent external address, my postfix MTA
hands the DSN message back to Exchange 2010 who doesn't know about BATV
tag, hence it doesn't understand the return path address in form of
"prvs=423424232..." thus dropping the DSN.

my scenario is:

Exchange --> ASSP --> Postfix (Outgoing)
ASSP --> Postfix --> Exchange (Incoming)

Whenever the DNS is generate, Postfix will route it directly to Exchange.

Does anyone managed to solve this issue with BATV and Exchange or knows how
to instruct Postfix to mangle the batv tag?
Can anything be done/set on ASSP side to avoid this issue?

AS of now, i set BATV to 'disabled', keeping FBMTV on.

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