Re: [Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-05 Thread K Post
I agree with your sentiment about Demarcian, it's is clearly a great
product!  I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong or anything.

I absolutely agree about ASSP's primary purpose, but feel like it could
always be extendedan extension could be monitoring how email from the
domain is being received.  It already reports on rejected bounces.  This is
clearly a totally different thing, but would be cool nonetheless.  Since
ASSP already sees the mail as is comes in it makes it much easier to
process the messages that have been received.  I thought we might be able
to haev ASSP extract the xml and process it.   I don't see how adding a
feature would negatively impact the rest of ASSP's functionality so long as
Thomas has the time and drive to make this happen.

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Grayhat  wrote:

> :: On Mon, 4 May 2015 12:47:33 -0400
> :: 
> :: K Post  wrote:
>
> > Yeah, a chuckle (and I hope that didn't come across as mean spirited
> > or anything - certainly wasn't intended that way - I just gave a
> > chuckle, because it's more of a "yeah right - that'll never be
> > approved" type of situation - I didn't mean it as a commend on you in
> > any way)
> >
> > The problem is that dmarcian's free service doesn't have much in the
> > way of reporting and doesn't have any email alerts.  Their pay
> > service sounds terrific, but that's just not a possibility here.  So,
> > I was hoping to see ASSP handle some of this for us.It appears
> > that its already able to send the aggregated XML reports to the dmarc
> > addresses per domain, so I'm wondering if it's reasonable to extend
> > ASSP to parse those xml reports that come inbound.  Do you think that
> > would be a useful feature?
>
> I see... but then, if I'm not wrong, the codebase over which the
> dmarcian site has been built is open source, so nobody forbids you (or
> whoever else, for that) to pick the very same code and build your own
> DMARC parsing and reporting app; and no, I don't think that building
> such a feature inside ASSP would be a good idea; ASSP is (and I hope
> will be) a mail (SMTP) filter, trying to add to it features which are
> outside of its purpose and may negatively impact over its primary one
>
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Re: [Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-05 Thread Grayhat
:: On Mon, 4 May 2015 12:47:33 -0400
:: 
:: K Post  wrote:

> Yeah, a chuckle (and I hope that didn't come across as mean spirited
> or anything - certainly wasn't intended that way - I just gave a
> chuckle, because it's more of a "yeah right - that'll never be
> approved" type of situation - I didn't mean it as a commend on you in
> any way)
> 
> The problem is that dmarcian's free service doesn't have much in the
> way of reporting and doesn't have any email alerts.  Their pay
> service sounds terrific, but that's just not a possibility here.  So,
> I was hoping to see ASSP handle some of this for us.It appears
> that its already able to send the aggregated XML reports to the dmarc
> addresses per domain, so I'm wondering if it's reasonable to extend
> ASSP to parse those xml reports that come inbound.  Do you think that
> would be a useful feature?

I see... but then, if I'm not wrong, the codebase over which the
dmarcian site has been built is open source, so nobody forbids you (or
whoever else, for that) to pick the very same code and build your own
DMARC parsing and reporting app; and no, I don't think that building
such a feature inside ASSP would be a good idea; ASSP is (and I hope
will be) a mail (SMTP) filter, trying to add to it features which are
outside of its purpose and may negatively impact over its primary one

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Re: [Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-04 Thread K Post
Yeah, a chuckle (and I hope that didn't come across as mean spirited or
anything - certainly wasn't intended that way - I just gave a chuckle,
because it's more of a "yeah right - that'll never be approved" type of
situation - I didn't mean it as a commend on you in any way)

The problem is that dmarcian's free service doesn't have much in the way of
reporting and doesn't have any email alerts.  Their pay service sounds
terrific, but that's just not a possibility here.  So, I was hoping to see
ASSP handle some of this for us.It appears that its already able to
send the aggregated XML reports to the dmarc addresses per domain, so I'm
wondering if it's reasonable to extend ASSP to parse those xml reports that
come inbound.  Do you think that would be a useful feature?

Maybe it could even be extended in the future to do notifications if a
threshold is hit, or just daily emailed reports.  Dmarcian, just stripped
down, emailed a midnight, like this:

OurCharity.org reports

Failure reports:
2015-05-03 11:02am from microsoft.com  Email from <>
2015-05-03 10:51pm from google.com Email from <>
2015-05-03 10:55pm from microsoft.com  Email from <>

Aggregated report (number of emails / spf / dkim)
<>
microsoft.com: 299 / pass / pass
google.com: 842 / pass / pass
hotmail.com: 112 / pass / pass

<>
microsoft.com: 15 / pass / none
google.com: 11 / pass / none

<>
microsoft.com: 2 / fail / none
google.com: 1 / fail / none


OurSecondDomain.org
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etc.










On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Grayhat  wrote:

> :: On Mon, 4 May 2015 11:36:22 -0400
> :: 
> :: K Post  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Grayhat  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > yes, have a look here https://dmarcian.com/get_started/ :)
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the chuckle grayhat!  Ah, the joys of a virtually no IT
> > budget charity.
>
> Chuckle ? Well, you asked for some kind of tool to parse DMARC reports
> and draw some eye candy and the above has what you asked for, just look
> at the "domain lifter"
>
> https://dmarcian.com/domain_lifter/
>
> the basic account is free and you can automatically reroute (or
> forward) your DMARC reports to them so that they'll be automagically
> parsed :P
>
>
>
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Re: [Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-04 Thread Grayhat
:: On Mon, 4 May 2015 11:36:22 -0400
:: 
:: K Post  wrote:

> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Grayhat  wrote:
> 
> >
> > yes, have a look here https://dmarcian.com/get_started/ :)
> >
> 
> Thanks for the chuckle grayhat!  Ah, the joys of a virtually no IT
> budget charity.

Chuckle ? Well, you asked for some kind of tool to parse DMARC reports
and draw some eye candy and the above has what you asked for, just look
at the "domain lifter"

https://dmarcian.com/domain_lifter/

the basic account is free and you can automatically reroute (or
forward) your DMARC reports to them so that they'll be automagically
parsed :P



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Re: [Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-04 Thread K Post
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Grayhat  wrote:

>
> yes, have a look here https://dmarcian.com/get_started/ :)
>

Thanks for the chuckle grayhat!  Ah, the joys of a virtually no IT budget
charity.
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Re: [Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-03 Thread Grayhat
:: On Sat, 2 May 2015 18:56:45 -0400
:: 
:: K Post  wrote:

> I'm loving the idea of DMARC.  We've been getting reports for a couple
> different .org domains.  The problem is that they need to be parsed
> manually.
> 
> Any chance that ASSP could intercept DMARC reports (aggregate and
> failure reports), extract the xml from the zip and "simply" toss the
> results into a database?
> 
> Do you think people would find this useful.  Failure reports will help
> identify what servers are sending mail as us that shouldn't be.
> Aggregate will give us a good idea of the volume of email that's
> going to each of the providers who send reports.  Would be terrific
> to be able to see stats and specifics per domain.
> 
> Certainly not a critical feature...
> 
> Thoughts?

yes, have a look here https://dmarcian.com/get_started/ :)

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[Assp-test] Feature Idea: DMARC aggregate reporting parsing?

2015-05-02 Thread K Post
I'm loving the idea of DMARC.  We've been getting reports for a couple
different .org domains.  The problem is that they need to be parsed
manually.

Any chance that ASSP could intercept DMARC reports (aggregate and failure
reports), extract the xml from the zip and "simply" toss the results into a
database?

Do you think people would find this useful.  Failure reports will help
identify what servers are sending mail as us that shouldn't be.  Aggregate
will give us a good idea of the volume of email that's going to each of the
providers who send reports.  Would be terrific to be able to see stats and
specifics per domain.

Certainly not a critical feature...

Thoughts?
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