Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell 3
Ron, Thanks for these specs. I believe you mentioned that this spec should be able to handle 96 concurrent. Do you have spec advice for servers to handle 48 24 concurrent? Thanks! John PowerEdge 2950 III -- CPU 1 - Quad Core Intel Xeon E5410, 2x6MB Cache, 2.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB CPU 2 - Quad Core Intel Xeon E5410, 2x6MB Cache, 2.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB Memory - 8GB 667MHz (4x2GB), Dual Ranked DIMMs Controller - PERC6i SAS RAID Controller Hard Drive Configuration - RAID 1 Drive 1 - 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive Drive 2 - 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive CD/DVD Drive - 24X IDE CD-RW/DVD ROM Drive Riser Card - Riser with 3 PCIe Slots Rack Chassis w/Sliding Rapid/Versa Rails and Cable Management Arm Redundant Power Supply with Dual Cords ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] ThirdLane PBX Manager GUI for *
Dear List: Many thanks in advance for your input: Question 1: Does anyone have experience with Thirdlane PBX Manager and GUI for * open source builds and * Business Edition? http://www.abptech.com/products/thirdlane/ I am considering this to give our install techs and clients an easier installation management interface. Question 2:Are there any more established, proven, equivalent alternatives to this Thirdlane product Question 3:In practical terms, what am I giving up by going with an open source build v. *BE? How much risk is involved? Thanks! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] hdwr v. sftwr v. no echo cancellation
Dear List, As we bring up * and migrate from the legacy PBX, its important for my management to experience good quality voice. Question is whether to use Digium's hardware echo cancellation, Digium's software echo cancellation, or no echo cancellation, on the 8 port FXO card (Digium TDM800P) I am thinking of using during the initial turnup and migration. Recommendation? Thanks! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] Grandstream v. Polycom
Dear List, Seeking opinions on Grandstream v. Polycom SIP phones run on *. Any thoughts/comments/opinions appreciated. Thanks! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell 3COM
Bob, What are you using for a LAN switch? Thanks! On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram and a Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called the A104DE on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently handling 82 users quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a few occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 and peaks to about 0.4 -- Bob Pierce Network Analyst Westman Communications Group On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS (for now). Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent calls. -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us all by eliminating complaints about VOIP and Asterisk being not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed for what is actually a poorly designed network. Low cost and Business grade may not coexist yet. So just bite the bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was properly designed in to the final solution. Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We have done it both ways. Bob Arreva Communications On 2/3/08, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch vendors with products supported by * for business grade voice service? Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz -- Bob Murphy Principal Arreva Communications www.arrevausa.com 949-334-2022-SIP Connect 949-842-8450-Wireless 949-349-0209-Fax ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell 3COM
Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS (for now). Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent calls. -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us all by eliminating complaints about VOIP and Asterisk being not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed for what is actually a poorly designed network. Low cost and Business grade may not coexist yet. So just bite the bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was properly designed in to the final solution. Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We have done it both ways. Bob Arreva Communications On 2/3/08, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch vendors with products supported by * for business grade voice service? Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz -- Bob Murphy Principal Arreva Communications www.arrevausa.com 949-334-2022-SIP Connect 949-842-8450-Wireless 949-349-0209-Fax ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] Polycom v. Snom
I love the security support of Snom, but wonder why they don't have an attendant console, which we currently use. How much more expensive is Snom than Polycom? On Feb 4, 2008 11:45 AM, Moshe Maeir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have Grandstream, Snom, Linksys and Polycom. Like Rob says GS and Polycom are not in the same league. We also had NAT issues with the Polycom, which we have not with the Snom. All in all the Snoms are good solid phones and easy to use. Moshe Rob Peck wrote: John, As someone who has both deployed in an office setting (GXP-2000s and Polycom IP-330s, as well as a few PAPs and some other random crap), I can give you a little info. Both work with Asterisk, but I would recommend the Polycom. It's only about $30/each more for a better phone. The GXP has some neat features, but the quality of construction and sound quality on the Polycoms is just so far ahead of the Grandstreams that it's not even in the same ballpark. The Polycoms are also far easier to provision (it's just simple XML). The only problems I've had with the Polcom are NAT issues, but it's not something I've even put more than 5 minutes of research into since everything here is on our local LAN. -Rob Peckdealnews.com John Williams wrote: Dear List, Seeking opinions on Grandstream v. Polycom SIP phones run on *. Any thoughts/comments/opinions appreciated. Thanks! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell 3COM
Folks, Excuse my ignorance ... a couple more questions on server sizing (Dell 2950) - Hard Drive Size for open source * or *BE? - # of Gps Ethernet ports (1 or 2? ) (I noticed one poster using one port for incoming calls and 2nd port for outgoing calls) - Any value to 4 GB Ram? - How many PCI slots in this beast? Thanks! On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram and a Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called the A104DE on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently handling 82 users quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a few occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 and peaks to about 0.4 -- Bob Pierce Network Analyst Westman Communications Group On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS (for now). Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent calls. -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us all by eliminating complaints about VOIP and Asterisk being not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed for what is actually a poorly designed network. Low cost and Business grade may not coexist yet. So just bite the bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was properly designed in to the final solution. Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We have done it both ways. Bob Arreva Communications On 2/3/08, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch vendors with products supported by * for business grade voice service? Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz -- Bob Murphy Principal Arreva Communications www.arrevausa.com 949-334-2022-SIP Connect 949-842-8450-Wireless 949-349-0209-Fax ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] QOS LAN SWITCH VENDORS?
Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch vendors with products supported by * for business grade voice service? Thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
