Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 00:50, John Williams wrote: > - Hard Drive Size for open source * or *BE? You can't find a small enough hard drive :). But seriously, in our case it depends on the amount of online message recording that we want to keep. We utilize 146GB SAS drives in a Raid 1. > - # of Gps Ethernet ports (1 or 2? ) (I noticed one poster using one > port for incoming calls and 2nd port for outgoing calls) 2950 comes with 2 gigE ports on board. > - Any value to 4 GB Ram? Memory has gone down so far in price recently, that we spec all of our servers with 8GB. > - How many PCI slots in this beast? 2950 has two separate riser slots. We configure slot 1 with PCIe and slot 2 with 2 PCIe. But you can also get PCI-X as well. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
Folks, Excuse my ignorance ... a couple more questions on server sizing (Dell 2950) - Hard Drive Size for open source * or *BE? - # of Gps Ethernet ports (1 or 2? ) (I noticed one poster using one port for incoming calls and 2nd port for outgoing calls) - Any value to 4 GB Ram? - How many PCI slots in this beast? Thanks! On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram and a > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called the A104DE > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently handling 82 users > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a few > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 and peaks > to about 0.4 > > -- > Bob Pierce > Network Analyst > Westman Communications Group > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS > > (for now). > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch & > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent > > calls. > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 > > concurrent calls? > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and Asterisk" being > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. "Low cost" > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just bite the > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin > > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was > > properly designed in to the final solution. > > > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate > > networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice > > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll > > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We > > have done it both ways. > > > > Bob > > Arreva Communications > > > > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch > > vendors with products supported by * for business > > grade voice service? Thanks > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Murphy > > Principal > > > > > > Arreva Communications > > www.arrevausa.com > > > > 949-334-2022-SIP Connect > > 949-842-8450-Wireless > > 949-349-0209-Fax > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > ___ --Bandw
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
Last time we deployed a system on dell switches it was aproximately $1, 400.00 for a 48 port POE switch. Including the extra power pack that enables POE on all 48 ports. On 2/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do these puppies go for? > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "bob murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:49:25 > To:"Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"< > asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM > > > Yes I concur that the Dell switches are a good functional choice as > well. And priced right. > > > On 2/4/08, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: We are using Dell PowerConnect 3448P for > voice&data switches with qos > and separate vlans for data and voice. > > Bob > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:55 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > Bob, > > What are you using for a LAN switch? > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram > > and a > > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called > > the A104DE > > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently > > handling 82 users > > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a > > few > > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 > > and peaks > > to about 0.4 > > > > -- > > Bob Pierce > > Network Analyst > > Westman Communications Group > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have > > the > > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put > > aside QOS > > > (for now). > > > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch > > & > > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 > > concurrent > > > calls. > > > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, > > based on > > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent > > calls? > > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone > > recommend, > > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and > > 48 > > > concurrent calls? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services > > the party > > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you > > are > > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per > > port > > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service > > provider class > > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will > > help us > > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and > > Asterisk" being > > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity > > issues when in > > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and > > constructed > > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system > > get's blamed > > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. > > "Low cost" > > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just > > bite the > > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a > > couple > > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things > > are lookin &
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
What do these puppies go for? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "bob murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:49:25 To:"Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM Yes I concur that the Dell switches are a good functional choice as well. And priced right. On 2/4/08, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: We are using Dell PowerConnect 3448P for voice&data switches with qos and separate vlans for data and voice. Bob On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:55 -0500, John Williams wrote: > Bob, > What are you using for a LAN switch? > Thanks! > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram > and a > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called > the A104DE > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently > handling 82 users > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a > few > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 > and peaks > to about 0.4 > > -- > Bob Pierce > Network Analyst > Westman Communications Group > > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have > the > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put > aside QOS > > (for now). > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch > & > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 > concurrent > > calls. > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, > based on > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent > calls? > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone > recommend, > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and > 48 > > concurrent calls? > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services > the party > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you > are > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per > port > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service > provider class > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will > help us > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and > Asterisk" being > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity > issues when in > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and > constructed > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system > get's blamed > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. > "Low cost" > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just > bite the > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a > couple > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things > are lookin > > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality > that was > > properly designed in to the final solution. > > > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run > seperate > > networks. I mean, why complicate things by > converging voice > > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. > But you'll > > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade > off. We > > have done it both ways. > > > > Bob > > Arreva Co
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
Yes I concur that the Dell switches are a good functional choice as well. And priced right. On 2/4/08, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are using Dell PowerConnect 3448P for voice&data switches with qos > and separate vlans for data and voice. > > Bob > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:55 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > Bob, > > What are you using for a LAN switch? > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram > > and a > > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called > > the A104DE > > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently > > handling 82 users > > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a > > few > > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 > > and peaks > > to about 0.4 > > > > -- > > Bob Pierce > > Network Analyst > > Westman Communications Group > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have > > the > > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put > > aside QOS > > > (for now). > > > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch > > & > > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 > > concurrent > > > calls. > > > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, > > based on > > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent > > calls? > > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone > > recommend, > > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and > > 48 > > > concurrent calls? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services > > the party > > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you > > are > > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per > > port > > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service > > provider class > > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will > > help us > > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and > > Asterisk" being > > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity > > issues when in > > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and > > constructed > > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system > > get's blamed > > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. > > "Low cost" > > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just > > bite the > > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a > > couple > > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things > > are lookin > > > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality > > that was > > > properly designed in to the final solution. > > > > > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run > > seperate > > > networks. I mean, why complicate things by > > converging voice > > > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. > > But you'll > > > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade > > off. We > > > have done it both ways. > > > > > > Bob > > > Arreva Communications > > > > > > > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN > > switch > > > vendors with products supported by * for > > business > > > grade voice service? Thanks > > > > > > > > ___ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > > > > > >
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
We are using Dell PowerConnect 3448P for voice&data switches with qos and separate vlans for data and voice. Bob On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:55 -0500, John Williams wrote: > Bob, > What are you using for a LAN switch? > Thanks! > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram > and a > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called > the A104DE > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently > handling 82 users > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a > few > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 > and peaks > to about 0.4 > > -- > Bob Pierce > Network Analyst > Westman Communications Group > > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have > the > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put > aside QOS > > (for now). > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch > & > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 > concurrent > > calls. > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, > based on > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent > calls? > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone > recommend, > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and > 48 > > concurrent calls? > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services > the party > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you > are > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per > port > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service > provider class > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will > help us > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and > Asterisk" being > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity > issues when in > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and > constructed > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system > get's blamed > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. > "Low cost" > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just > bite the > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a > couple > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things > are lookin > > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality > that was > > properly designed in to the final solution. > > > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run > seperate > > networks. I mean, why complicate things by > converging voice > > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. > But you'll > > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade > off. We > > have done it both ways. > > > > Bob > > Arreva Communications > > > > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN > switch > > vendors with products supported by * for > business > > grade voice service? Thanks > > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Murphy > > Principal > > > > > > Arreva Communications > > www.arrevausa.com > > > > 949-334-2022-SIP Connect > > 949
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
We have recommended and deployed Cisco 3750's a couple times and Foundry switching. HP procurves as well. On 2/4/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bob, > What are you using for a LAN switch? > Thanks! > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram and a > > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called the A104DE > > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently handling 82 users > > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a few > > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 and peaks > > to about 0.4 > > > > -- > > Bob Pierce > > Network Analyst > > Westman Communications Group > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the > > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS > > > (for now). > > > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch & > > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent > > > calls. > > > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on > > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? > > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, > > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 > > > concurrent calls? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party > > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are > > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port > > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class > > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us > > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and Asterisk" being > > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in > > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed > > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed > > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. "Low cost" > > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just bite the > > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple > > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin > > > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was > > > properly designed in to the final solution. > > > > > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate > > > networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice > > > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll > > > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We > > > have done it both ways. > > > > > > Bob > > > Arreva Communications > > > > > > > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch > > > vendors with products supported by * for business > > > grade voice service? Thanks > > > > > > ___ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Bob Murphy > > > Principal > > > > > > > > > Arreva Communications > > > www.arrevausa.com > > > > > > 949-334-2022-SIP Connect > > > 949-842-8450-Wireless > > > 949-349-0209-Fax > > > ___ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > ___ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http:/
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
On Monday 04 February 2008 09:04, John Williams wrote: > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual > experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? (The Dell > recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) Our current spec for an IVR based platform is: Dell 2950 Dual Quad Procs (2.33Ghz) 8GB Ram Dual 146GB 15K SAS Drives This easily handles 96 calls (Quad PRI) utilizing dual TE200B's. We have 10 of these identical systems in production. I would be happy to help you with pricing as we are a dell reseller. Ron ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
Bob, What are you using for a LAN switch? Thanks! On Feb 4, 2008 9:24 AM, Bob Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram and a > Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called the A104DE > on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently handling 82 users > quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a few > occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 > concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 and peaks > to about 0.4 > > -- > Bob Pierce > Network Analyst > Westman Communications Group > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the > > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS > > (for now). > > > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch & > > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent > > calls. > > > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on > > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? > > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, > > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 > > concurrent calls? > > > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party > > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are > > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port > > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class > > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us > > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and Asterisk" being > > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in > > reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed > > network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed > > for what is actually a poorly designed network. "Low cost" > > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just bite the > > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple > > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin > > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was > > properly designed in to the final solution. > > > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate > > networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice > > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll > > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We > > have done it both ways. > > > > Bob > > Arreva Communications > > > > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch > > vendors with products supported by * for business > > grade voice service? Thanks > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Murphy > > Principal > > > > > > Arreva Communications > > www.arrevausa.com > > > > 949-334-2022-SIP Connect > > 949-842-8450-Wireless > > 949-349-0209-Fax > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
We are using a Dell 2950 with 2 Dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB Ram and a Sangoma A104d-x quad T1/E1 card (which now seems to be called the A104DE on Sangoma's site). Using this system we are currently handling 82 users quite easily. We have had at least 23 concurrent calls on a few occasions with no problems. I'm pretty sure it could handle 48 concurrent calls as the load on this box averages around 0.11 and peaks to about 0.4 -- Bob Pierce Network Analyst Westman Communications Group On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 09:04 -0500, John Williams wrote: > Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the > luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS > (for now). > > Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch & > PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent > calls. > > -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on > actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? > (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) > > -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, > based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 > concurrent calls? > > Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! > > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party > gets smaller and more expensive. At the point you are > building a network that requires QOS, Priority, Per port > VLAN's etc you may as well build with service provider class > switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and Asterisk" being > not ready for prime deployment due to maturity issues when in > reality, it works fine on a well designed and constructed > network. Most of the time the Telephony system get's blamed > for what is actually a poorly designed network. "Low cost" > and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just bite the > bullet and use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple > systems with over 400 IP voice endpoints and things are lookin > good because of the proper L3 and QOS functionality that was > properly designed in to the final solution. > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate > networks. I mean, why complicate things by converging voice > and data. With L2 switching equipment so cheap. But you'll > have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's a trade off. We > have done it both ways. > > Bob > Arreva Communications > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch > vendors with products supported by * for business > grade voice service? Thanks > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > -- > Bob Murphy > Principal > > > Arreva Communications > www.arrevausa.com > > 949-334-2022-SIP Connect > 949-842-8450-Wireless > 949-349-0209-Fax > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] Paranoia, Dell & 3COM
Thanks for that wisdom, Bob. For this current job, we have the luxury of running a separate network for voice, and can put aside QOS (for now). Being completely paranoid, I want to buy equipment (switch & PC) proven to operate an * PBX for 50-90 users and 48 concurrent calls. -- Dell is our preferred PC vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a Dell PC model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? (The Dell recommended models on the Wiki are out of date) -- 3COM is our preferred basic switch vendor. Can anyone recommend, based on actual experience, a 3COM switch model for *, and 48 concurrent calls? Thanks in advance for aiding my considerable paranoia! On Feb 3, 2008 5:46 PM, bob murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once you start adding L3 to even L6 and 7 services the party gets smaller > and more expensive. At the point you are building a network that requires > QOS, Priority, Per port VLAN's etc you may as well build with service > provider class switching gear like Foundry and Cisco etc. It will help us > all by eliminating complaints about "VOIP and Asterisk" being not ready for > prime deployment due to maturity issues when in reality, it works fine on > a well designed and constructed network. Most of the time the Telephony > system get's blamed for what is actually a poorly designed network. "Low > cost" and "Business grade" may not coexist yet. So just bite the bullet and > use Foundry or Cisco. We have deployed a couple systems with over 400 IP > voice endpoints and things are lookin good because of the proper L3 and QOS > functionality that was properly designed in to the final solution. > > Or, with cheap MAC switching you can just run seperate networks. I mean, > why complicate things by converging voice and data. With L2 switching > equipment so cheap. But you'll have to run two cat6 drops everywhere. It's > a trade off. We have done it both ways. > > Bob > Arreva Communications > > > On 2/3/08, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Deal List, Who are the low cost QOS LAN switch vendors with products > > supported by * for business grade voice service? Thanks > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > -- > Bob Murphy > Principal > > > Arreva Communications > www.arrevausa.com > > 949-334-2022-SIP Connect > 949-842-8450-Wireless > 949-349-0209-Fax > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
