Re: [asterisk-biz] religious arguments and billing systems
The short for what I need is the following 1.) CDR rating/invoicing 1a.) profitability reporting # someone told me I needed LCR for this. I want reporting on what calls are costing me, not route changes. 1b.) Call cutoff on low balance 2.) Not currently necessary, but something I am thinking about is SIP endpoint provisioning (hardphone) integrated into the items above. I need the functions integrated into my existing asterisk dial plan, which is maybe 30 lines. I use asterisk realtime to maintain as much of my asterisk configuration as possible with the idea in mind that will allow me to grow the system without managing a lot of files on multiple systems. That said, I am just one server at this point and bottle necked in call rating/invoicing/account balance cutoff. I was told it was possible with a2billing but I don't see a clear document on how a2billing works so I don't quickly see how to hook it in. Bruce Ferrell - President Ferrell Systems Engineering, Inc. On 07/18/2011 10:54 AM, Nitzan Kon wrote: Bruce, It would be helpful if you posted what it is exactly that you need done. A2Billing is a great billing system if you are the DIY type and can modify it - or you have someone on your team who can. It's actually one of the easiest billing systems to modify which is exactly what makes it so powerful. --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Bruce Ferrell wrote: Folks, I've been a Linux systems professional since 1993. I've been a telecommunications professional since 1980; a veteran of Western Union and MCI. I've worked with just about every major Linux distribution and many non Linux *IX platforms. I have made very specific engineering decisions for my systems as a result of my experience. In all those years one refrain I've heard from as a dull drum beat from developers is that "if you pay me, you can complain/ask for extras". Well, I find myself in the position of both being able and willing to pay for support... Only to find that the developers now want to only support if they can re-engineer my systems. I even had one vendor collect money for three months before telling he was unsure if or when he would be able to support me, but if I was willing to pay extra for development, it might accelerate what I needed. Needless to say, I declined the extortion and got my money back. I'm not asking for asterisk or billing on windows. I'm not willing to put in windows... Nor am I willing to put in Debian or Ubuntu. I place all three in the same class... the toy of the day. I won't debate this but I will discuss it off list if you're so inclined. I have a working Asterisk system. it IS generating revenue. I need to be able for my non-technical staff to be able to operate and provision it. I have installed a2billing and approached it's commercial entity for training only to have my request avoided. I mention them by name only because this venue gave them such a high recommendation only to disappoint me again. So, now I ask... Is there any vendor that is willing and competent to provide support for a fee without trying to re-engineer my system?Do notice, I said for a fee. Not free. I am pursuing this line of inquiry as well as others. BTW, no, I will not be putting in freeswitch, SER or other similar solutions at this time. I have a very specific task that needs accomplished and am willing to pay a reasonable amount to get there. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] religious arguments and billing systems
Bruce, It would be helpful if you posted what it is exactly that you need done. A2Billing is a great billing system if you are the DIY type and can modify it - or you have someone on your team who can. It's actually one of the easiest billing systems to modify which is exactly what makes it so powerful. --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > Folks, > > I've been a Linux systems professional since 1993. > I've been a telecommunications professional since 1980; a > veteran of Western Union and MCI. I've worked with > just about every major Linux distribution and many non Linux > *IX platforms. I have made very specific engineering > decisions for my systems as a result of my experience. > In all those years one refrain I've heard from as a dull > drum beat from developers is that "if you pay me, you can > complain/ask for extras". > > Well, I find myself in the position of both being able and > willing to pay for support... Only to find that the > developers now want to only support if they can re-engineer > my systems. I even had one vendor collect money for > three months before telling he was unsure if or when he > would be able to support me, but if I was willing to pay > extra for development, it might accelerate what I > needed. Needless to say, I declined the extortion and > got my money back. > > I'm not asking for asterisk or billing on > windows. I'm not willing to put in windows... Nor am I > willing to put in Debian or Ubuntu. I place all three > in the same class... the toy of the day. I won't > debate this but I will discuss it off list if you're so > inclined. > > I have a working Asterisk system. it IS generating > revenue. I need to be able for my non-technical staff > to be able to operate and provision it. I have > installed a2billing and approached it's commercial entity > for training only to have my request avoided. I > mention them by name only because this venue gave them such > a high recommendation only to disappoint me again. > > So, now I ask... Is there any vendor that is willing and > competent to provide support for a fee without trying to > re-engineer my system? Do notice, I said for a > fee. Not free. I am pursuing this line of > inquiry as well as others. BTW, no, I will not be > putting in freeswitch, SER or other similar solutions at > this time. I have a very specific task that needs > accomplished and am willing to pay a reasonable amount to > get there. > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] religious arguments and billing systems
Hi Bruce, I have a working Asterisk system. it IS generating revenue. I need to be > able for my non-technical staff to be able to operate and provision it. I > have installed a2billing and approached it's commercial entity for training > only to have my request avoided. I mention them by name only because this > venue gave them such a high recommendation only to disappoint me again. > > So you want modification inside A2Billing for achieving some functionality ? Are you willing to look at different commercial billing systems that can achieve similar or more then what A2Billing can do, however at a cost (i mentioned commercial billing systems) > So, now I ask... Is there any vendor that is willing and competent to > provide support for a fee without trying to re-engineer my system?Do > notice, I said for a fee. Not free. I am pursuing this line of inquiry as > well as others. BTW, no, I will not be putting in freeswitch, SER or other > similar solutions at this time. I have a very specific task that needs > accomplished and am willing to pay a reasonable amount to get there. Yeah, I am not asking to move over to FreeSWITCH or SER or something like that, however, I dont wish to comment till i hear the problem statement, you can write to me off the list, Look forward to hear from you, Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & Architect, Enterux Solutions, www.enterux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
Re: [asterisk-biz] religious arguments and billing systems
On 07/18/2011 03:35 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: So, now I ask... Is there any vendor that is willing and competent to provide support for a fee without trying to re-engineer my system? Have a look at jbilling.com. They have a free and commercial version. I'm not affiliated and don't have first hand experience but was told that they are happy to do consulting for a fee, train clients and do integration/modification work (from jBilling's side, not your infrastructure). Regards, Patrick -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
[asterisk-biz] religious arguments and billing systems
Folks, I've been a Linux systems professional since 1993. I've been a telecommunications professional since 1980; a veteran of Western Union and MCI. I've worked with just about every major Linux distribution and many non Linux *IX platforms. I have made very specific engineering decisions for my systems as a result of my experience. In all those years one refrain I've heard from as a dull drum beat from developers is that "if you pay me, you can complain/ask for extras". Well, I find myself in the position of both being able and willing to pay for support... Only to find that the developers now want to only support if they can re-engineer my systems. I even had one vendor collect money for three months before telling he was unsure if or when he would be able to support me, but if I was willing to pay extra for development, it might accelerate what I needed. Needless to say, I declined the extortion and got my money back. I'm not asking for asterisk or billing on windows. I'm not willing to put in windows... Nor am I willing to put in Debian or Ubuntu. I place all three in the same class... the toy of the day. I won't debate this but I will discuss it off list if you're so inclined. I have a working Asterisk system. it IS generating revenue. I need to be able for my non-technical staff to be able to operate and provision it. I have installed a2billing and approached it's commercial entity for training only to have my request avoided. I mention them by name only because this venue gave them such a high recommendation only to disappoint me again. So, now I ask... Is there any vendor that is willing and competent to provide support for a fee without trying to re-engineer my system?Do notice, I said for a fee. Not free. I am pursuing this line of inquiry as well as others. BTW, no, I will not be putting in freeswitch, SER or other similar solutions at this time. I have a very specific task that needs accomplished and am willing to pay a reasonable amount to get there. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
