Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-05 Thread Dwayne Hubbard
Mitul Limbani wrote:
> Quoting Sergey Tamkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Is it true that ABE supports Dialogic boards? If yes, what else ABE
>> supports what normal Asterisk doesn't?
>> 
>
> Not entirely true, coz I didnt find the driver files in my ABE pack :)
> Well I might have to contact Digium to find out regarding the same.
>   
chan_dialogic is not distributed with any version of Business Edition, 
but if you really need it you may want to express your interest via 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> But I guess ABE is outdated compared to the GPL Stable which has more 
> features coming in, just that Digium provides a surity that ABE wont 
> break and if it would, they would provide support to fix it ASAP. Apart 
> from that they provide IP Indemnity to the licensees (just as Novell 
> did for SuSE Linux)
>   
ABE version B is based on the 1.2 release branch of Asterisk. Version C 
is based on the 1.4 release branch but also includes select 
functionality from trunk.

regards,
Dwayne Hubbard


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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-05 Thread Mitul Limbani
Hello,

Quoting Sergey Tamkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Is it true that ABE supports Dialogic boards? If yes, what else ABE
> supports what normal Asterisk doesn't?

Not entirely true, coz I didnt find the driver files in my ABE pack :)
Well I might have to contact Digium to find out regarding the same.

But I guess ABE is outdated compared to the GPL Stable which has more 
features coming in, just that Digium provides a surity that ABE wont 
break and if it would, they would provide support to fix it ASAP. Apart 
from that they provide IP Indemnity to the licensees (just as Novell 
did for SuSE Linux)

Thanks & Regards,
Mitul Limbani,
Founder & CEO,
Enterux Solutions,
The Enterprise Linux Company (TM),
www.enterux.com

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Sergey Tamkovich
Is it true that ABE supports Dialogic boards? If yes, what else ABE 
supports what normal Asterisk doesn't?

Jared Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
>   
>> I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
>> calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
>> What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?
>> 
>
> No, Asterisk Business Edition does not include the source code.  While
> it's built from the same source as the open source version of Asterisk,
> it's licensed under a more traditional commercial binary-only software
> license.  If you chose to go the Asterisk Business Edition route, you
> get technical support, warrant, and some patent indemnification.  
>
> If on the other hand you go the open-source route, you get support from
> the community (mailing lists such as this one, forums, blogs, and so
> on).
>
> The nice thing is, you get to choose which is best for your particular
> situation.
>
>   


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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Jared Smith
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
> calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
> What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?

No, Asterisk Business Edition does not include the source code.  While
it's built from the same source as the open source version of Asterisk,
it's licensed under a more traditional commercial binary-only software
license.  If you chose to go the Asterisk Business Edition route, you
get technical support, warrant, and some patent indemnification.  

If on the other hand you go the open-source route, you get support from
the community (mailing lists such as this one, forums, blogs, and so
on).

The nice thing is, you get to choose which is best for your particular
situation.

-- 
Jared Smith
Community Relations Manager
Digium, Inc.


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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 18:35 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> Incase i want to make new product like a xxx sip server
> If i order ABE (I don't know include source code or not) i modify code
> remove all 'asterisk'
> to 'xxx'  Is posible to do ?
> 
> Dome C.


not with abe

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Dome Charoenyost
Incase i want to make new product like a xxx sip server
If i order ABE (I don't know include source code or not) i modify code
remove all 'asterisk'
to 'xxx'  Is posible to do ?

Dome C.


On 2/4/08, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 04:35 -0500, Mitul Limbani wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > ABE is an answer to all the proprietory solution provider who want to
> > include asterisk in their production environment.
> >
> not the only one though, as the GPL only matters for distribution, not
> use.
>
>
> > I personally do not see any specific advantage of it over GPL one,
> > apart from all the glossy printed manual :) (voip-info.org holds more
> > info then it)
>
> The biggest advantage is that you can use digium code and derive other
> works that are not gpl.  The key issue isnt a concern since the courts
> ruled that lock out codes arent copyrightable (and thus not protected,
> not available for gpl license terms, etc).  This was in the lexmark case
> most recently but that was based on supreme court rulings from days gone
> by.
>
> So if you have a clean build environment (meaning you dont use digium
> code) you can build modules and distribute them with a closed license,
> just not distributed with gpl stuff, since again the gpl covers
> distribution not use.
>
> --
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 04:35 -0500, Mitul Limbani wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> ABE is an answer to all the proprietory solution provider who want to 
> include asterisk in their production environment.
> 
not the only one though, as the GPL only matters for distribution, not
use.  


> I personally do not see any specific advantage of it over GPL one, 
> apart from all the glossy printed manual :) (voip-info.org holds more 
> info then it)

The biggest advantage is that you can use digium code and derive other
works that are not gpl.  The key issue isnt a concern since the courts
ruled that lock out codes arent copyrightable (and thus not protected,
not available for gpl license terms, etc).  This was in the lexmark case
most recently but that was based on supreme court rulings from days gone
by.  

So if you have a clean build environment (meaning you dont use digium
code) you can build modules and distribute them with a closed license,
just not distributed with gpl stuff, since again the gpl covers
distribution not use.

-- 
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Belfast +44 28 9099 6461US +1 516 687 5200
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Safeer
Mitul Limbani wrote:
> Hello,
>
> ABE is an answer to all the proprietory solution provider who want to 
> include asterisk in their production environment.
>
> I personally do not see any specific advantage of it over GPL one, 
> apart from all the glossy printed manual :) (voip-info.org holds more 
> info then it)
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Mitul Limbani,
> Founder & CEO,
> Enterux Solutions,
> The Enterprise Linux Company (TM),
> www.enterux.com
>
> Quoting Dome Charoenyost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>> Look like GPL version still better than ABE :)
>>
>> Dome C.
>>
>> On 2/4/08, Ron McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> You have to pay for extra channels, in incremnet sof 20. Max is 240
>>> supported that is what Digium calls "Stable". I know several people running
>>> ABE with 400+ concurrent calls!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Feb 3, 2008 9:08 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>   
 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
 
> Hi All,
>
> I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
> calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
>   
> >> > > What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?
>   
> Best Regards.
>
> Dome C.
>   
 I do not believe that it contains source (other than headers to compile
 modules for example), it is not GPL licensed, it is a commercial
 license.

 40 concurrent calls is aparently the standard stable way asterisk
 business edition runs.  And if you pay more then you can have more
 channels at the same time.


 --
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 Belfast +44 28 9099 6461US +1 516 687 5200
 http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!
 
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We are running few asterisk GPLs and quite happy take the load more then 
240 cuncurrent calls.

-Kevin


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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-04 Thread Mitul Limbani
Hello,

ABE is an answer to all the proprietory solution provider who want to 
include asterisk in their production environment.

I personally do not see any specific advantage of it over GPL one, 
apart from all the glossy printed manual :) (voip-info.org holds more 
info then it)

Thanks & Regards,
Mitul Limbani,
Founder & CEO,
Enterux Solutions,
The Enterprise Linux Company (TM),
www.enterux.com

Quoting Dome Charoenyost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Look like GPL version still better than ABE :)
>
> Dome C.
>
> On 2/4/08, Ron McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You have to pay for extra channels, in incremnet sof 20. Max is 240
>> supported that is what Digium calls "Stable". I know several people running
>> ABE with 400+ concurrent calls!
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Feb 3, 2008 9:08 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
>> > > Hi All,
>> > >
>> > > I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
>> > > calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
>> > > What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards.
>> > >
>> > > Dome C.
>> >
>> > I do not believe that it contains source (other than headers to compile
>> > modules for example), it is not GPL licensed, it is a commercial
>> > license.
>> >
>> > 40 concurrent calls is aparently the standard stable way asterisk
>> > business edition runs.  And if you pay more then you can have more
>> > channels at the same time.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
>> > Belfast +44 28 9099 6461US +1 516 687 5200
>> > http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!


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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-03 Thread Dome Charoenyost
Look like GPL version still better than ABE :)

Dome C.

On 2/4/08, Ron McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have to pay for extra channels, in incremnet sof 20. Max is 240
> supported that is what Digium calls "Stable". I know several people running
> ABE with 400+ concurrent calls!
>
>
>
>  On Feb 3, 2008 9:08 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
> > > calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
> > > What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?
> > >
> > > Best Regards.
> > >
> > > Dome C.
> >
> > I do not believe that it contains source (other than headers to compile
> > modules for example), it is not GPL licensed, it is a commercial
> > license.
> >
> > 40 concurrent calls is aparently the standard stable way asterisk
> > business edition runs.  And if you pay more then you can have more
> > channels at the same time.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
> > Belfast +44 28 9099 6461US +1 516 687 5200
> > http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-03 Thread Ron McCarthy
You have to pay for extra channels, in incremnet sof 20. Max is 240
supported that is what Digium calls "Stable". I know several people running
ABE with 400+ concurrent calls!


On Feb 3, 2008 9:08 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
> > calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
> > What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > Dome C.
>
> I do not believe that it contains source (other than headers to compile
> modules for example), it is not GPL licensed, it is a commercial
> license.
>
> 40 concurrent calls is aparently the standard stable way asterisk
> business edition runs.  And if you pay more then you can have more
> channels at the same time.
>
>
> --
> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
> Belfast +44 28 9099 6461US +1 516 687 5200
> http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!
>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Business Edition

2008-02-03 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 11:00 +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I found "Asterisk Business Edition supports up to 40 simultaneous
> calls with upgrades to 240 calls available." in digium web site.
> What's mean ? Asterisk Business Edition not include source code ?
> 
> Best Regards.
> 
> Dome C.

I do not believe that it contains source (other than headers to compile
modules for example), it is not GPL licensed, it is a commercial
license.  

40 concurrent calls is aparently the standard stable way asterisk
business edition runs.  And if you pay more then you can have more
channels at the same time.


-- 
Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
Belfast +44 28 9099 6461US +1 516 687 5200
http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!


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