Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 30 May 2005 22:22, Brian West wrote:
> I get color if I export TERM=xterm 90% of the boxes i'm on...

It should work with termtype screen just like everything else.  :-) 

(yes I do plan on posting a patch)

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Brian West
also -c is console not color just in case.. I have seen people thing  
its color.


/b

On May 30, 2005, at 7:36 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:


On Monday 30 May 2005 20:22, Brian West wrote:


your terminal.. because people in their right minds DO NOT START
asterisk like that and all reality asterisk should have died if you
did that and NOT continued to run.  But then again still not major.
NEXT!!!



I run all my asterisk servers in screen sessions with -c.  It's the  
only way I

can get colour console in a screen session.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Brian West

I get color if I export TERM=xterm 90% of the boxes i'm on...

/b

On May 30, 2005, at 7:36 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:


On Monday 30 May 2005 20:22, Brian West wrote:


your terminal.. because people in their right minds DO NOT START
asterisk like that and all reality asterisk should have died if you
did that and NOT continued to run.  But then again still not major.
NEXT!!!



I run all my asterisk servers in screen sessions with -c.  It's the  
only way I

can get colour console in a screen session.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 30 May 2005 20:22, Brian West wrote:
> your terminal.. because people in their right minds DO NOT START
> asterisk like that and all reality asterisk should have died if you
> did that and NOT continued to run.  But then again still not major.
> NEXT!!!

I run all my asterisk servers in screen sessions with -c.  It's the only way I 
can get colour console in a screen session.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Brian West
I recall that bug.. yes it might be a bug and I think something was  
done to correct it.. but wasn't major because you could have worked  
around it by NOT starting asterisk in that manner and NOT closing  
your terminal.. because people in their right minds DO NOT START  
asterisk like that and all reality asterisk should have died if you  
did that and NOT continued to run.  But then again still not major.   
NEXT!!!


/b

On May 30, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:


my point was people get their karma points by doing trivial stuff
but reporting something that seems pretty fucking major, like  
starting asterisk -cp and getting disconnected can get you a negative


which is wrong

the whole karma system is fscked up

let the code speak for itself

roy


Den 30. mai. 2005 kl. 23.48 skrev Brian West:



You usually won't get +karma till a bug is closed and resolved.   
If then they forget say something at that time.


/b

On May 30, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:





hi

what are the basis on which the 'karma' on the mantis is given?  
My current karma is currently -2 although I've probably done more  
good than bad in there. the latest bug I've been fighting, #4318,  
has taken quite some time, debug info posted on mantis etc, but  
this is as it seems not very important. What seems to be more  
important is fixing one's own bugs (oej gets 4 karma poits for  
fixing 3113 for "Finding and Fixing a Trivial Bug" and "markster  
says: Giving you this twice since it wasn't your bug (even if it  
was a brief fix)" and mentioning disclaimers (as in 3113  
"Remembering to mention your disclaimer when you upload a  
patch"). It all looks like a face factor where the "good guys"  
get "karma" points for whatever they do and the "not-so-good- 
guys" get nothing. As with my own first -2 for 3331 that "only  
hung the box, needing it to be restarted onsite" if you started  
asterisk -cp and disconnected from the terminal... not a major  
bug by guidelines, some say, but I don't know.


why don't you just ditch the whole karma bullshit and let the  
code speak for itself?


roy


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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk

my point was people get their karma points by doing trivial stuff
but reporting something that seems pretty fucking major, like  
starting asterisk -cp and getting disconnected can get you a negative


which is wrong

the whole karma system is fscked up

let the code speak for itself

roy


Den 30. mai. 2005 kl. 23.48 skrev Brian West:


You usually won't get +karma till a bug is closed and resolved.  If  
then they forget say something at that time.


/b

On May 30, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:




hi

what are the basis on which the 'karma' on the mantis is given? My  
current karma is currently -2 although I've probably done more  
good than bad in there. the latest bug I've been fighting, #4318,  
has taken quite some time, debug info posted on mantis etc, but  
this is as it seems not very important. What seems to be more  
important is fixing one's own bugs (oej gets 4 karma poits for  
fixing 3113 for "Finding and Fixing a Trivial Bug" and "markster  
says: Giving you this twice since it wasn't your bug (even if it  
was a brief fix)" and mentioning disclaimers (as in 3113  
"Remembering to mention your disclaimer when you upload a patch").  
It all looks like a face factor where the "good guys" get "karma"  
points for whatever they do and the "not-so-good-guys" get  
nothing. As with my own first -2 for 3331 that "only hung the box,  
needing it to be restarted onsite" if you started asterisk -cp and  
disconnected from the terminal... not a major bug by guidelines,  
some say, but I don't know.


why don't you just ditch the whole karma bullshit and let the code  
speak for itself?


roy


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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Brian West
You usually won't get +karma till a bug is closed and resolved.  If  
then they forget say something at that time.


/b

On May 30, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:


hi

what are the basis on which the 'karma' on the mantis is given? My  
current karma is currently -2 although I've probably done more good  
than bad in there. the latest bug I've been fighting, #4318, has  
taken quite some time, debug info posted on mantis etc, but this is  
as it seems not very important. What seems to be more important is  
fixing one's own bugs (oej gets 4 karma poits for fixing 3113 for  
"Finding and Fixing a Trivial Bug" and "markster says: Giving you  
this twice since it wasn't your bug (even if it was a brief fix)"  
and mentioning disclaimers (as in 3113 "Remembering to mention your  
disclaimer when you upload a patch"). It all looks like a face  
factor where the "good guys" get "karma" points for whatever they  
do and the "not-so-good-guys" get nothing. As with my own first -2  
for 3331 that "only hung the box, needing it to be restarted  
onsite" if you started asterisk -cp and disconnected from the  
terminal... not a major bug by guidelines, some say, but I don't  
know.


why don't you just ditch the whole karma bullshit and let the code  
speak for itself?


roy


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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread alex
Whining about karma: -10 karma points.

Karma is subjective by definition.

-alex
On Mon, 30 May 2005, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

> hi
> 
> what are the basis on which the 'karma' on the mantis is given? My  
> current karma is currently -2 although I've probably done more good  
> than bad in there. the latest bug I've been fighting, #4318, has  
> taken quite some time, debug info posted on mantis etc, but this is  
> as it seems not very important. What seems to be more important is  
> fixing one's own bugs (oej gets 4 karma poits for fixing 3113 for  
> "Finding and Fixing a Trivial Bug" and "markster says: Giving you  
> this twice since it wasn't your bug (even if it was a brief fix)" and  
> mentioning disclaimers (as in 3113 "Remembering to mention your  
> disclaimer when you upload a patch"). It all looks like a face factor  
> where the "good guys" get "karma" points for whatever they do and the  
> "not-so-good-guys" get nothing. As with my own first -2 for 3331 that  
> "only hung the box, needing it to be restarted onsite" if you started  
> asterisk -cp and disconnected from the terminal... not a major bug by  
> guidelines, some say, but I don't know.
> 
> why don't you just ditch the whole karma bullshit and let the code  
> speak for itself?
> 
> roy
> 
> 
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[Asterisk-Dev] karma on mantis?

2005-05-30 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk

hi

what are the basis on which the 'karma' on the mantis is given? My  
current karma is currently -2 although I've probably done more good  
than bad in there. the latest bug I've been fighting, #4318, has  
taken quite some time, debug info posted on mantis etc, but this is  
as it seems not very important. What seems to be more important is  
fixing one's own bugs (oej gets 4 karma poits for fixing 3113 for  
"Finding and Fixing a Trivial Bug" and "markster says: Giving you  
this twice since it wasn't your bug (even if it was a brief fix)" and  
mentioning disclaimers (as in 3113 "Remembering to mention your  
disclaimer when you upload a patch"). It all looks like a face factor  
where the "good guys" get "karma" points for whatever they do and the  
"not-so-good-guys" get nothing. As with my own first -2 for 3331 that  
"only hung the box, needing it to be restarted onsite" if you started  
asterisk -cp and disconnected from the terminal... not a major bug by  
guidelines, some say, but I don't know.


why don't you just ditch the whole karma bullshit and let the code  
speak for itself?


roy


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