Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
READ THE FULL THREAD, you are making me mad, very mad for your inability to read. I am programming it, I am following an IETF draft. I am trying to conform our efforts to asterisk development standards. So SHUT UP OR SAY SOMETHING USEFUL alluding to my incapabilities On Sat, 22 Oct 2005, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Friday 21 October 2005 08:02, Jason Pyeron wrote: This will be looked at after 1.2 release. yes, but my client needs it now. Holy hell I hate this attitude. You have NO idea how much. You've been given alternatives, which you don't WANT to do, although they'd solve the problem just fine. You want it to work just like something else, so why don't you just USE that something else? My guess is that they got sick of your But I want it THIS way! attitude and stopped supporting you, so you are now here. The same will happen here if you don't adjust your attitude. You've already been told that is not how it works here due to architecture fundamentals. This is unacceptable to you, so I suggest you break out your programmer hat and do it yourself. It won't make it back into the public tree due the architecture differences already mentioned, but hey you've GOT to have it so you'll be able to allocate resources to keep it in sync with Asterisk's other feature developments. If you're incapable, break out your wallet and post a sizeable bounty. If you're still incapable, it can't be done, and no amount of but it works this way on some other system and But I need it for a client NOW will change that. Asterisk and the Asterisk community doesn't owe you ANYTHING. Please lose this entitlement attitude you've got. -A. ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Partner Sr. Manager 7 West 24th Street #100 - - +1 (443) 921-0381 Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: Jason Pyeron wrote: This does make it harder to do, but not impossible. Just think DIAL(abc...). now when DIAL(SIP/400) gets back to chan_sip it gets corrected and replaced with an action for each registered 400 extension using the pbx framework. Which means that the PBX has no idea that it is in fact calling multiple devices. We have to implement *two* forking schemes, which makes everything much harder. Believe me, I've spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this work properly without breaking the Asterisk architecture. What are some of your ideas on this? I am open to other approaches. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Partner Sr. Manager 7 West 24th Street #100 - - +1 (443) 921-0381 Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
Jason Pyeron wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: I fail to see how you MUST have this to get shared line apperances... Please explain. That is how it is done in pbx's which support it, ex SNOM 4S Does not mean we have to do it the same way, though. Or am I missing something here? Remember that other SIP pbx's are not multiprotocol pbx's and can do things differently. They usually fork in the SIP layer since it's the same as the PBX layer. In Asterisk, those are two different layers, a PBX and a channel driver. /O ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: Jason Pyeron wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: I fail to see how you MUST have this to get shared line apperances... Please explain. That is how it is done in pbx's which support it, ex SNOM 4S Does not mean we have to do it the same way, though. Or am I missing something here? yes Remember that other SIP pbx's are not multiprotocol pbx's and can do things differently. They usually fork in the SIP layer since it's the same as the PBX layer. In Asterisk, those are two different layers, a PBX and a channel driver. This does make it harder to do, but not impossible. Just think DIAL(abc...). now when DIAL(SIP/400) gets back to chan_sip it gets corrected and replaced with an action for each registered 400 extension using the pbx framework. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Partner Sr. Manager 7 West 24th Street #100 - - +1 (443) 921-0381 Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
On Friday 21 October 2005 08:02, Jason Pyeron wrote: This will be looked at after 1.2 release. yes, but my client needs it now. Holy hell I hate this attitude. You have NO idea how much. You've been given alternatives, which you don't WANT to do, although they'd solve the problem just fine. You want it to work just like something else, so why don't you just USE that something else? My guess is that they got sick of your But I want it THIS way! attitude and stopped supporting you, so you are now here. The same will happen here if you don't adjust your attitude. You've already been told that is not how it works here due to architecture fundamentals. This is unacceptable to you, so I suggest you break out your programmer hat and do it yourself. It won't make it back into the public tree due the architecture differences already mentioned, but hey you've GOT to have it so you'll be able to allocate resources to keep it in sync with Asterisk's other feature developments. If you're incapable, break out your wallet and post a sizeable bounty. If you're still incapable, it can't be done, and no amount of but it works this way on some other system and But I need it for a client NOW will change that. Asterisk and the Asterisk community doesn't owe you ANYTHING. Please lose this entitlement attitude you've got. -A. ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
Jason Pyeron wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: Jason Pyeron wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: I fail to see how you MUST have this to get shared line apperances... Please explain. That is how it is done in pbx's which support it, ex SNOM 4S Does not mean we have to do it the same way, though. Or am I missing something here? yes Remember that other SIP pbx's are not multiprotocol pbx's and can do things differently. They usually fork in the SIP layer since it's the same as the PBX layer. In Asterisk, those are two different layers, a PBX and a channel driver. This does make it harder to do, but not impossible. Just think DIAL(abc...). now when DIAL(SIP/400) gets back to chan_sip it gets corrected and replaced with an action for each registered 400 extension using the pbx framework. Which means that the PBX has no idea that it is in fact calling multiple devices. We have to implement *two* forking schemes, which makes everything much harder. Believe me, I've spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this work properly without breaking the Asterisk architecture. /O ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
[OT] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 11:00 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Friday 21 October 2005 08:02, Jason Pyeron wrote: This will be looked at after 1.2 release. yes, but my client needs it now. Holy hell I hate this attitude. You have NO idea how much. You've been given alternatives, which you don't WANT to do, although they'd solve the problem just fine. You want it to work just like something else, so why don't you just USE that something else? My guess is that they got sick of your But I want it THIS way! attitude and stopped supporting you, so you are now here. The same will happen here if you don't adjust your attitude. snip Asterisk and the Asterisk community doesn't owe you ANYTHING. Please lose this entitlement attitude you've got. Am I a bad influence on some people, or do I just have one of the shorter fuses? Of course this is worded better than what I normally post. I'm off to go back to Phreaknic now. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] KI4KTY ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
Re: [Asterisk-Dev] multiple registrations of same credentials
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Olle E. Johansson wrote: I fail to see how you MUST have this to get shared line apperances... Please explain. That is how it is done in pbx's which support it, ex SNOM 4S -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Partner Sr. Manager 7 West 24th Street #100 - - +1 (443) 921-0381 Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list Asterisk-Dev@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
