[asterisk-users] Manager events safety

2010-04-24 Thread Jonas Kellens




Hello list,

is it save to send manager events from a remote website (php) to an
Asterisk-server ? Is there some tutorial on how to implement a tight
safety policy ?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Manager events safety

2010-04-24 Thread Motiejus Jakštys
Use simple PHP's telnet classes for AMI.
If you need special security - use Stunnel (SSL tunnel) and iptables
on asterisk side for IP forwarding.

This all is really straight-forward, I doubt you need a tutorial
here.. Both stunnel and PHP Telnet have tutorials on how to accomplish
this. You just need to merge 2 techniques :)

Good luck

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jonas Kellens
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 Hello list,

 is it save to send manager events from a remote website (php) to an
 Asterisk-server ? Is there some tutorial on how to implement a tight safety
 policy ?


 Jonas.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Improving CLI Help - was [Re: 1.6.2 No soft hangup?]

2010-04-24 Thread sean darcy
Jose P. Espinal wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Maybe you could do something in shellscript too:
 
 e.g.
 asterisk -rx help | grep -ia something
 
 That would behave just as describe in the suggestion (but it's easier to 
 do :P)
 
 You could place that in a  tiny shellscript, that takes the 'something' 
 as an argument:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 token=$1
 asterisk -rx help | grep -ia ${token}
 
 Save that with the name of your preference (somewhere inside your $PATH, 
 would be nice), and just execute it like a normal command:
 
 [name_you_gave_it] sip
 [name_you_gave_it] peer
 [name_you_gave_it] whatever
 
 
 Note:
 You then could make a lot of fancy customizations to parameters of your 
 script, etc., and even use other tools for if needed (e.g. gawk, sed, etc.)
 
 
 
 sean darcy wrote:
 Olle E. Johansson wrote:
   
 Further to Steve Edward's comment, I think things would be more
 obvious if the help system was improved slightly, for instance:

 If you were trying to figure out the commands dealing with peers, you
 would be able to type:
 *CLI help peer
 No peer command found.  Possible alternatives:
iax2 show peer Show details on specific IAX peer
   iax2 show peers List defined IAX peers
sip show peers List defined SIP peers
 sip show peer Show details on specific SIP peer
  (and so on, maybe using the [More] option to help it be 
 readable)

 In this case, if I could use the help system to search on all
 occurrences of the word hangup in the available commands, I would
 probably have found it myself instead of bothering the list.
   
 THat's a very good idea. Thank you! 

 Now we need someone that codes it :-)

 /O
 
 Well I'm certainly not the one who could code it, but is there any way 
 to simply grep all the help. So, for instance, if you did help 
 hangup you got:

 hangup request no description available

 which you now get,

 followed by all the commands that have hangup in them, including their 
 descriptions. For instance:

 But see:
 channel request hangup channel
  Request that a channel be hung up. The hangup takes effect
  the next time the driver reads or writes from the channel
 etc
 etc

 sean


   
 
Very slick. Using your script as asterisk-help:

asterisk-help hangup
 channel request hangup Request a hangup on a given channel
 console hangup Hangup a call on the console
 hangup request no description available

sean


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Re: [asterisk-users] Manager events safety

2010-04-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi,

Please avoid HTML-only mail.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jonas Kellens
jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:
 Hello list,

 is it save to send manager events from a remote website (php) to an
 Asterisk-server ? Is there some tutorial on how to implement a tight safety
 policy ?

What do you mean by safe?

For instance, allowing a remote user to apss any event through a manager
account that has full priviliges, provides that remote user practically
full control over Asterisk. Is that a problem for you?

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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:06 +0200, ad...@3a.hu wrote:

Hi Guys,

On 04-23-2010 21:40, Nathan Clemons wrote:
 SIP is just the control protocol, and can be negotiated over TCP or UDP. The
 actual payload is done over RTP, which is a UDP-based protocol.


thanks, for both of you for pointing this out.  i was obviously on the 
wrong track here.  since i see the rtp traffic via tcpdump, i'm going to 
ask the other gw's sysadmin to see into this, maybe there is some 
logging on the other side.

 If you had to add firewall exceptions/PAT config for the TCP SIP traffic,
 you'll also need to add the same for RTP traffic as well.


this is a private pilot network for testing purposes, no internet 
connection, no nat, no firewall.  it's like the 90s :)

Actually, it is more common for RTP to be over UDP, but RTP over TCP is
possible. In fact, this is the default RTP mode for M$ Office
Communications Server. 

I beleive that it may be possible to use RTP over TCP in Asterisk as
there was someone work on this inorder to have interop with M$.

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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Doesn't surprise me if Microsoft tries sending RTP over TCP. Maybe their
engineers didn't know basics of VoIP when they were programming their
communication server.

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On 2010-04-24 12:04 PM, Michael Graves mgra...@mstvp.com wrote:

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:06 +0200, ad...@3a.hu wrote:

Hi Guys,

On 04-23-2010 21:40, Nathan Cle...
Actually, it is more common for RTP to be over UDP, but RTP over TCP is
possible. In fact, this is the default RTP mode for M$ Office
Communications Server.

I beleive that it may be possible to use RTP over TCP in Asterisk as
there was someone work on this inorder to have interop with M$.

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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 Doesn't surprise me if Microsoft tries sending RTP over TCP. Maybe
 their engineers didn't know basics of VoIP when they were programming
 their communication server. 

Not quite - doing SIP over TCP rather then UDP is the right thing to do 
(tm). It's just that everyone started out with UDP in the early ages of 
SIP - also think about the benefit of TLS.

As for MS OCS: That uses TCP for SIP and UDP for RTP.

Where MS failed: OCS _only_ does SIP over TCP, whereas Asterisk _only_ 
does/did SIP over UDP. Neither is/was RFC compliant.  

Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM,  ad...@3a.hu wrote:
 i have to put an * between two other SIP gateways and due to some
 circumstances, i have to use sip over tcp.  With 1.6.2.6 this is working
 fine: sip gw A (deverto4) sends the call, i hand it over to sip gw B
 (ocs) and that's about it.  In the other direction however (ocs - me -
 deverto4) the call setup is complete but there is no audio.

Don't do it.

There have been any number of posts to asterisk-users begging asterisk
to bend over backwards to accommodate Microsoft's foray into the world
of VoIP. Nobody seems to be asking Microsoft to build a stack
compatible with the rest of the world of VoIP.

I disagree that sending SIP over TCP is superior to sending it over
UDP. Think about it for a second. UDP is 'unreliable' in that lost
packets are not rebroadcast.

Now let's say you have an 'unreliable' connection where it's just
barely good enough that the SIP call setup goes through, but the RTP
stream immediately fails.

Why would that be superior to having the SIP call setup getting
dropped? The end result of no reliable voice is the same, but now you
have a funkier debug condition that's going to be more complex to
track down. I personally think it would be superior to see the bad
connection as early in call setup as possible.

And of course, SIP over UDP is the way the rest of the world works. If
anybody wants to speak up about a framework that supports BOTH SIP
over UDP AND SIP over TCP, maybe somebody already built a middleware
layer that will let Microsoft join the world of voip.

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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
RTP stands for Real-Time Transport Protocol. TCP is not designed to deal
with real-time data transfer as it takes time to acknowledge packets and
re-send them if missing. All audio video data transfer happens in real time,
and it doesn't make any sense to retransmit missing packets. Real time
packets mixed with old missing packets which are submitted would result in
an non-understandable audio and video. So how come any system can use TCP
for real time data transfer, while assuring the quality at the same time.
Does their exist any such system? I would certainly like to try it, maybe
they are doing it right using some trick which I don't know yet.

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On 2010-04-24 1:48 PM, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, ad...@3a.hu wrote:
 i have to put an * between two other SIP ga...
Don't do it.

There have been any number of posts to asterisk-users begging asterisk
to bend over backwards to accommodate Microsoft's foray into the world
of VoIP. Nobody seems to be asking Microsoft to build a stack
compatible with the rest of the world of VoIP.

I disagree that sending SIP over TCP is superior to sending it over
UDP. Think about it for a second. UDP is 'unreliable' in that lost
packets are not rebroadcast.

Now let's say you have an 'unreliable' connection where it's just
barely good enough that the SIP call setup goes through, but the RTP
stream immediately fails.

Why would that be superior to having the SIP call setup getting
dropped? The end result of no reliable voice is the same, but now you
have a funkier debug condition that's going to be more complex to
track down. I personally think it would be superior to see the bad
connection as early in call setup as possible.

And of course, SIP over UDP is the way the rest of the world works. If
anybody wants to speak up about a framework that supports BOTH SIP
over UDP AND SIP over TCP, maybe somebody already built a middleware
layer that will let Microsoft join the world of voip.


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[asterisk-users] Asterisk and Archlinux

2010-04-24 Thread Christian
Hi all,
Is anyone here using Asterisk on Archlinux?
If so, was it much to do in order for it to work?
Do you also use Dahdi?
many thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 10:56 -0500, Michael Graves wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:06 +0200, ad...@3a.hu wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 On 04-23-2010 21:40, Nathan Clemons wrote:
  SIP is just the control protocol, and can be negotiated over TCP or UDP. 
  The
  actual payload is done over RTP, which is a UDP-based protocol.
 
 
 thanks, for both of you for pointing this out.  i was obviously on the 
 wrong track here.  since i see the rtp traffic via tcpdump, i'm going to 
 ask the other gw's sysadmin to see into this, maybe there is some 
 logging on the other side.
 
  If you had to add firewall exceptions/PAT config for the TCP SIP traffic,
  you'll also need to add the same for RTP traffic as well.
 
 
 this is a private pilot network for testing purposes, no internet 
 connection, no nat, no firewall.  it's like the 90s :)
 
 Actually, it is more common for RTP to be over UDP, but RTP over TCP is
 possible. In fact, this is the default RTP mode for M$ Office
 Communications Server. 
 
 I beleive that it may be possible to use RTP over TCP in Asterisk as
 there was someone work on this inorder to have interop with M$.
 

No, that was just sip over tcp (instead of udp)
I friend of mine had an * talking to M$, so that was one of the reasons
for early deployment of an 1.6.x asterisk...


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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread bruce bruce
Adobe Air and Adobe FMS are good examples of VoIP working flawlessly over
TCP. We are actually developing a flash phone which needs only TCP to
transmit both signal and audio.

-Bruce

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria zisha...@gmail.com wrote:

 RTP stands for Real-Time Transport Protocol. TCP is not designed to deal
 with real-time data transfer as it takes time to acknowledge packets and
 re-send them if missing. All audio video data transfer happens in real time,
 and it doesn't make any sense to retransmit missing packets. Real time
 packets mixed with old missing packets which are submitted would result in
 an non-understandable audio and video. So how come any system can use TCP
 for real time data transfer, while assuring the quality at the same time.
 Does their exist any such system? I would certainly like to try it, maybe
 they are doing it right using some trick which I don't know yet.

 Zeeshan A Zakaria

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 On 2010-04-24 1:48 PM, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, ad...@3a.hu wrote:
  i have to put an * between two other SIP ga...

 Don't do it.

 There have been any number of posts to asterisk-users begging asterisk
 to bend over backwards to accommodate Microsoft's foray into the world
 of VoIP. Nobody seems to be asking Microsoft to build a stack
 compatible with the rest of the world of VoIP.

 I disagree that sending SIP over TCP is superior to sending it over
 UDP. Think about it for a second. UDP is 'unreliable' in that lost
 packets are not rebroadcast.

 Now let's say you have an 'unreliable' connection where it's just
 barely good enough that the SIP call setup goes through, but the RTP
 stream immediately fails.

 Why would that be superior to having the SIP call setup getting
 dropped? The end result of no reliable voice is the same, but now you
 have a funkier debug condition that's going to be more complex to
 track down. I personally think it would be superior to see the bad
 connection as early in call setup as possible.

 And of course, SIP over UDP is the way the rest of the world works. If
 anybody wants to speak up about a framework that supports BOTH SIP
 over UDP AND SIP over TCP, maybe somebody already built a middleware
 layer that will let Microsoft join the world of voip.


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Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Adobe has not been successful in VoIP. I have worked for two companies who
were trying to make flash phones, and it always came down to the issue of
RTP over TCP. This is the primary reason there are no successfully working
flash phones out there though some companies are trying to offer service
over them. I once set it up myself using redphone and red5. But a java based
RTP over UDP is what I ended up with, which simply works. I would suggest
you to look into a java based solution. RTP is simply not meant for TCP,
those who are doing it, they must not be using TCP as TCP.

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On 2010-04-24 3:07 PM, Hans Witvliet h...@a-domani.nl wrote:

On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 10:56 -0500, Michael Graves wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:06 +0200, adamk...
No, that was just sip over tcp (instead of udp)
I friend of mine had an * talking to M$, so that was one of the reasons
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[asterisk-users] PrivacyManager

2010-04-24 Thread robert boardman
Hi

thwe PrivacyManger app states thast you can use a context to match against
for the input , but gives no real examples or explaination, does anyone have
a an example context for this

Thanks in advance

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Archlinux

2010-04-24 Thread ik
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 21:19, Christian christia...@runbox.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 Is anyone here using Asterisk on Archlinux?


Yes and no, I do use it on Archlinux for testing purpose but not as a
server.
Arch linux is not built to be a server distro, unlike Debian that have extra
steps for process handling, like restarting a service that was just updated
and more.


 If so, was it much to do in order for it to work?


You need to either use the AUR builds or download the ABS information and
build it for yourself. Personally I use the yaourt tool as a pacman front
end.


 Do you also use Dahdi?


Like any other Asterisk it must have a dahdi module, at least dahdi_dummy.


 many thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Jitter Buffer and MeetMe.

2010-04-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:34 PM, russian qwerty
russian.qwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.

 As I see, there is a lot of threads about jitter buffer... Maybe anybody
 knows something about my case? Any help will be appreciate.

 So, the problem with voice quality was completely solved, BUT some customers
 have informed me about big latency. It's really hard to make dialogue with
 current latency.

You're on the right track here, but I don't think your problem is
jitter. I think your problem is VoIP and voice activity detection, and
depending on your version of asterisk, MeetMe conference 'talker
optimization'.

I've posted all of this before. Here goes again...

* 'talker optimization' should be disabled on MeetMe() conferences.
* /etc/asterisk/dsp.conf set silencethreshold=1024
* /etc/asterisk/codecs.conf set vad=false

Give those a try, restart or reload asterisk to apply changes, and
tell us if it fixes it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] What is needed to test issue 0013573: [Patch] Allow realtime_multi_ldap to behave like other realtime_multi functions

2010-04-24 Thread Gavin Henry
Hi,

I look after this but have been very busy for months. Maybe you canhelp me test?

Thanks,

Gavin.

On 23/04/2010, Sean Brady sbr...@gtfservices.com wrote:
 Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what do we need to do to
 get this patch merged?  How can I help?  I'm no dev, but I use LDAP with
 Asterisk and I might be of some help.

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[asterisk-users] VOIP Monitoring tools........

2010-04-24 Thread mike mosier
Hey all

 What VoIP networking monitoring, asterisk monitoring tools would you
recommend? I started working with an IT company that insists on using DSL
with a Sonicwall router. The problem is that the clients are having sound
problems. The owner is convinced that it's the Asterisk box. In the 4 yrs I
have been doing this I have not had this bad a sound problem and it always
came down to a bad setup in the Cisco router. Asterisk just doesn't have
sound problems so I am going to have to convince him that its either the
router or DSL. Has anyone used DSL for SIP traffic? How about Sonicwall
routers?

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[asterisk-users] VoIP monitoring tools

2010-04-24 Thread mike mosier
Howdy all

1. does  anyone know a good voip / sip / qos monitoring tool?
2. Has anyone had luck running asterisk phone systems over DSL?
3, Has anyone used sonic wall routers for qos over dsl.

The company I am consulting for would like to install asterisk boxes over
dsl with sonicwall routers. For the last 4  years I have installed all my
boxes over t1 lines with cisco routers and have had no sound problems, The
couple of clients we tried this out on are having sound issues so you see
why I would like to find a good monitoring tool.

We are using Broadsoft SIP trunks.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Michael D Mosier
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Re: [asterisk-users] VoIP monitoring tools

2010-04-24 Thread Michael Wilson
I think DSL is 1/2 duplex and in most cases way to slow on the way Up for VOIP.

I use a sonic wall on a T1 and it works great.  It even has some 
features for tweaking VOIP.

Any time I have tried VOIP on a 1/2 duplex connection all the way up 
to 7down and 1.5 up I have call quality issues.

At 10:06 PM 4/24/2010, you wrote:
Howdy all

1. does  anyone know a good voip / sip / qos monitoring tool?
2. Has anyone had luck running asterisk phone systems over DSL?
3, Has anyone used sonic wall routers for qos over dsl.

The company I am consulting for would like to install asterisk boxes 
over dsl with sonicwall routers. For the last 4  years I have 
installed all my boxes over t1 lines with cisco routers and have had 
no sound problems, The couple of clients we tried this out on are 
having sound issues so you see why I would like to find a good monitoring tool.

We are using Broadsoft SIP trunks.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Michael D Mosier
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Re: [asterisk-users] VoIP monitoring tools

2010-04-24 Thread Stefan Schmidt
hello,
mike mosier schrieb:
 Howdy all
  
 1. does  anyone know a good voip / sip / qos monitoring tool?
you could try smokeping or iperf but real monitoring of the dsl quality 
isnt easy.
 2. Has anyone had luck running asterisk phone systems over DSL?
we dont run asterisk itself over dsl, but our clients connect over dsl 
to the asterisk server in our housing center.
 3, Has anyone used sonic wall routers for qos over dsl.
i dont know sonic wall routers, but sonic wall firewalls are the death 
of voip. every time a customer has used one of these, he got problems 
like call drops, packet loss and so on.
  
 The company I am consulting for would like to install asterisk boxes 
 over dsl with sonicwall routers. For the last 4  years I have 
 installed all my boxes over t1 lines with cisco routers and have had 
 no sound problems, The couple of clients we tried this out on are 
 having sound issues so you see why I would like to find a good 
 monitoring tool.
the only way of doing this right, is that the ISP of your dsl lines 
install some kind of QOS for you. If you make this by your own, you will 
only have a one way solution which only helps for outgoing call legs, 
not incoming.

DSL isnt Half duplex as Michael Wilson said, but the frequency used for 
upstream is lower range. Or is it an sdsl connection and not adsl? If 
its sdsl or gshdsl or something like this, the frequencys used are the 
same range for up and download.

the best way to do this is to ask for an QoS for your DSL from your ISP.
  
 We are using Broadsoft SIP trunks.
  
 Thanks for any suggestions.
  
 Michael D Mosier
best regards

steve smith

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