[asterisk-users] T.38 Digium Fax Driver Success on Fail
Hello! The T.38 Digium Fax Driver sometimes responds with a successful sending of a fax, when in fact, the fax did not go through. 1. Where does this problem lie? 2. How to go about fixing it. Thanks, Elliot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with chan_dahdi and conferencing
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 02:30:42AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:50:32AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am using asterisk-1.8 and I am having problems getting conferencing to work properly. I did modprobe on dahdi and did load = chan_dahdi.so in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf. Now I do get conferencing, but meetme says [Jan 15 11:38:56] WARNING[9214] app_meetme.c: No DAHDI channel available for conference, conference recording disabled (is chan_dahdi loaded?) What is the output of: dahdi show channels And the output is? Now chan_dahdi is indeed loaded, but I have an empty chan_dahdi.conf. Not even an empty '[channels]' section? I did put that just now, but I still get the same warning. Have you tried 'dahdi restart' ? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with chan_dahdi and conferencing
Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 02:30:42AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:50:32AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am using asterisk-1.8 and I am having problems getting conferencing to work properly. I did modprobe on dahdi and did load = chan_dahdi.so in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf. Now I do get conferencing, but meetme says [Jan 15 11:38:56] WARNING[9214] app_meetme.c: No DAHDI channel available for conference, conference recording disabled (is chan_dahdi loaded?) What is the output of: dahdi show channels And the output is? Now chan_dahdi is indeed loaded, but I have an empty chan_dahdi.conf. Not even an empty '[channels]' section? I did put that just now, but I still get the same warning. Have you tried 'dahdi restart' ? I did module reload chan_dahdi.so but no joy. The output of dahdi show channels is just the header line with no channels. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Sound quality issue
Le 15/01/2011 20:38, Cédric Lemarchand a écrit : Hello, Hi [...] I am sure there are RTP packets losses somewhere, except RTP debug in the asterisk CLI, how can i determine where the problem come from ? [...] You don't tell which protocol (SIP, IAX, H323) nor which asterisk version. FYI Asterisk 1.6.2.15 in iax had audio quality problems, solved in 1.6.2.16. If you have the possibility, connect directly a phone to the server, eg Device - LAN (no MPLS) - Asterisk. Check also if a call to echo test has the same bad quality. -- Daniel -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Selecting the E1 cards for the call
Dears; I am looking for the card that does not need an electrical power, which one? Is the PCI express doing this? Regards Bilal -- While we're at it, can someone please tell me whether I should be using vi or emacs? ;-) Many thanks, Tom PS: Bilal: You have asked a nearly unanswerable question. Some prefer one, some prefer the other. Both cards are quality items. I can say that I only have experience with Sangoma T1/E1 cards, but our Digium FXO/FXS card works well, too. On 01/14/2011 12:42 PM, bilal ghayyad wrote: Hi All; We would like to build a call center having 2 E1, but we would like to know which card to select: Sangoma or Digium? And card type to be PCI express or PCI 5.0V or PCI 3.3V ? Any advise or special recommendations for the call center? Regards Bilal -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] T.38 Digium Fax Driver Success on Fail
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Elliot Murdock murdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! The T.38 Digium Fax Driver sometimes responds with a successful sending of a fax, when in fact, the fax did not go through. 1. Where does this problem lie? 2. How to go about fixing it. Thanks, Elliot If it isn't working, get a refund. That is what I had to do. I bought three or four licenses and faxing was about 50% - 50% I payed for it because I though it would be one less thing to worry about. Boy was I wrong. A couple of days later, the complaints started pouring in, all the way up to the CEO of a billion dollar company. It made me look really bad. I gave Digium root access and they still couldn't find anything wrong and then just gave up and closed the ticket. Fax show stats had a whole bunch of statistical numbers that didn't add up. Lesson learned. IAXmodem and Hylafax. Over that I always recommend a few POTS lines for 911 and faxing, most clients are cool with that once you explain that there could be a liability issue. Thanks, Steve T Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
James Miller wrote: From the command you suggested to enter: Class: default File: /var/lib/asterisk/moh//reno_project-system You have 1 too many // in the directory structure. It should be: /var/lib/asterisk/moh/reno_project-system Not /var/lib/asterisk/moh//reno_project-system Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with chan_dahdi and conferencing
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 07:20:53AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 02:30:42AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:50:32AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am using asterisk-1.8 and I am having problems getting conferencing to work properly. I did modprobe on dahdi and did load = chan_dahdi.so in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf. Now I do get conferencing, but meetme says [Jan 15 11:38:56] WARNING[9214] app_meetme.c: No DAHDI channel available for conference, conference recording disabled (is chan_dahdi loaded?) What is the output of: dahdi show channels And the output is? Now chan_dahdi is indeed loaded, but I have an empty chan_dahdi.conf. Not even an empty '[channels]' section? I did put that just now, but I still get the same warning. Have you tried 'dahdi restart' ? I did module reload chan_dahdi.so but no joy. 'module reload chan_dahdi.so' is not the same as: module unload chan_dahdi.so module load chan_dahdi.so Please try that one. The output of dahdi show channels is just the header line with no channels. OK. I'm looking for 'pseudo' there. Also: what's the output of the following in the Linux command-line: dahdi_test -c3 -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 09:29:09AM -0500, Doug Lytle wrote: James Miller wrote: From the command you suggested to enter: Class: default File: /var/lib/asterisk/moh//reno_project-system You have 1 too many // in the directory structure. It should be: /var/lib/asterisk/moh/reno_project-system Not /var/lib/asterisk/moh//reno_project-system Is that really an issue? open() and all others would normally just reduce '//' to a '/'. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with chan_dahdi and conferencing
Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 07:20:53AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 02:30:42AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:50:32AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am using asterisk-1.8 and I am having problems getting conferencing to work properly. I did modprobe on dahdi and did load = chan_dahdi.so in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf. Now I do get conferencing, but meetme says [Jan 15 11:38:56] WARNING[9214] app_meetme.c: No DAHDI channel available for conference, conference recording disabled (is chan_dahdi loaded?) What is the output of: dahdi show channels And the output is? Now chan_dahdi is indeed loaded, but I have an empty chan_dahdi.conf. Not even an empty '[channels]' section? I did put that just now, but I still get the same warning. Have you tried 'dahdi restart' ? I did module reload chan_dahdi.so but no joy. 'module reload chan_dahdi.so' is not the same as: module unload chan_dahdi.so module load chan_dahdi.so Please try that one. The output of dahdi show channels is just the header line with no channels. OK. I'm looking for 'pseudo' there. Also: what's the output of the following in the Linux command-line: dahdi_test -c3 Opened pseudo dahdi interface, measuring accuracy... 99.993% 99.617% 99.996% --- Results after 3 passes --- Best: 99.996 -- Worst: 99.617 -- Average: 99.868716, Difference: 100.124381 -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Is that really an issue? open() and all others would normally just reduce '//' to a '/'. That, I really wouldn't know. I'm not a programmer. I noted the differences between mine and his. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Selecting the E1 cards for the call
On Jan 16, 2011, at 7:29 AM, bilal ghayyad wrote: Dears; I am looking for the card that does not need an electrical power, which one? Is the PCI express doing this? Regards Bilal Bilal, The only telephony cards that require a power connector are those with FXS ports for plugging in analog telephones as extensions. Any of the E1 cards you are looking at will not require any additional power beyond what the motherboard provides to the slot. Tom -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
Well... Looks like he's trying to use a streaming MOH solution like an online radio station or something, so the files are irrelevant. Too bad the original post didn't specify that. I still think there is a different source selected for the call queue than for the rest of the system. Sorry for the top post... Blackberry won't do it any other way. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Doug Lytle supp...@drdos.info Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:50:48 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Is that really an issue? open() and all others would normally just reduce '//' to a '/'. That, I really wouldn't know. I'm not a programmer. I noted the differences between mine and his. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with chan_dahdi and conferencing
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 09:53:39AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: 'module reload chan_dahdi.so' is not the same as: module unload chan_dahdi.so module load chan_dahdi.so Please try that one. Will you? Please? What's the output? dahdi_test -c3 Opened pseudo dahdi interface, measuring accuracy... 99.993% 99.617% 99.996% --- Results after 3 passes --- Best: 99.996 -- Worst: 99.617 -- Average: 99.868716, Difference: 100.124381 Good. So the kernel module is loaded and seems to work. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:20:10AM -0500, James Miller wrote: I'm going out on a limb here, as I'm still pretty new to Astrisk and running my own VOIP server, however I believe there is a bug or flaw with the Music on Hold feature. I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. Well, why should it play something different? How have you configured it to play something different? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 12:47 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:20:10AM -0500, James Miller wrote: I'm going out on a limb here, as I'm still pretty new to Astrisk and running my own VOIP server, however I believe there is a bug or flaw with the Music on Hold feature. I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. Well, why should it play something different? How have you configured it to play something different? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users [James M Miller] Well one would think that if you configure the Music on Hold feature by setting streams for it to pull from, it should play it no matter how the phone is dialed. Meaning if I dial another extension on the network, I should hear the MOH since I have it programmed with streams. However what is occurring is it is only playing when you are placed into a queue. Once someone picks up the line, it starts playing the default again if that person places the person on hold. One would think that it would play MOH no matter what if you have the streams programmed and override the defaults, at least that's what I'd like for it to do. Regards, James -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
MOH plays the default class unless specified by a channel variable to play a different one. In queues.conf you can specify the MOH class on a queue by queue basis, but that's the hold music for someone waiting to be answered. Once an agent answers, if they put someone on hold they'll be put into the default MOH class unless a channel variable is specified beforehand. Thanks, --Warren Selby, dCAP On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James M Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 12:47 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:20:10AM -0500, James Miller wrote: I'm going out on a limb here, as I'm still pretty new to Astrisk and running my own VOIP server, however I believe there is a bug or flaw with the Music on Hold feature. I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. Well, why should it play something different? How have you configured it to play something different? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users [James M Miller] Well one would think that if you configure the Music on Hold feature by setting streams for it to pull from, it should play it no matter how the phone is dialed. Meaning if I dial another extension on the network, I should hear the MOH since I have it programmed with streams. However what is occurring is it is only playing when you are placed into a queue. Once someone picks up the line, it starts playing the default again if that person places the person on hold. One would think that it would play MOH no matter what if you have the streams programmed and override the defaults, at least that's what I'd like for it to do. Regards, James -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
That's what I'm wanting to change. I want it to stream 100% of the time no matter if the person is in queue or if an agent has answered. Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Warren Selby wcse...@selbytech.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:41:31 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? MOH plays the default class unless specified by a channel variable to play a different one. In queues.conf you can specify the MOH class on a queue by queue basis, but that's the hold music for someone waiting to be answered. Once an agent answers, if they put someone on hold they'll be put into the default MOH class unless a channel variable is specified beforehand. Thanks, --Warren Selby, dCAP On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James M Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 12:47 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:20:10AM -0500, James Miller wrote: I'm going out on a limb here, as I'm still pretty new to Astrisk and running my own VOIP server, however I believe there is a bug or flaw with the Music on Hold feature. I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. Well, why should it play something different? How have you configured it to play something different? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users [James M Miller] Well one would think that if you configure the Music on Hold feature by setting streams for it to pull from, it should play it no matter how the phone is dialed. Meaning if I dial another extension on the network, I should hear the MOH since I have it programmed with streams. However what is occurring is it is only playing when you are placed into a queue. Once someone picks up the line, it starts playing the default again if that person places the person on hold. One would think that it would play MOH no matter what if you have the streams programmed and override the defaults, at least that's what I'd like for it to do. Regards, James -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:20 AM, James Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. the middle, and still can not get MOH to work. Did you create /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/stream/stream.mp3? Did you Google it and try the solution here: http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=92 ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] res_fax_digium.so crashing
Since digium is apparently blind to users of their Free Fax for Asterisk, does anyone have advice on how to report a crashing problem with res_fax_digium and Asterisk 1.8.2 ? I have detailed logs/reports and a backtrace ready, but I have no idea who can help. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Warren Selby wcse...@selbytech.com wrote: MOH plays the default class unless specified by a channel variable to play a different one. In queues.conf you can specify the MOH class on a queue by queue basis, but that's the hold music for someone waiting to be answered. Once an agent answers, if they put someone on hold they'll be put into the default MOH class unless a channel variable is specified beforehand. Thanks, --Warren Selby, dCAP On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James M Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 12:47 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:20:10AM -0500, James Miller wrote: I'm going out on a limb here, as I'm still pretty new to Astrisk and running my own VOIP server, however I believe there is a bug or flaw with the Music on Hold feature. I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. Well, why should it play something different? How have you configured it to play something different? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users [James M Miller] Well one would think that if you configure the Music on Hold feature by setting streams for it to pull from, it should play it no matter how the phone is dialed. Meaning if I dial another extension on the network, I should hear the MOH since I have it programmed with streams. However what is occurring is it is only playing when you are placed into a queue. Once someone picks up the line, it starts playing the default again if that person places the person on hold. One would think that it would play MOH no matter what if you have the streams programmed and override the defaults, at least that's what I'd like for it to do. Regards, James -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Yep. musinonhold.conf has not had the default changed to streaming. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working?
Sorry for the top-post, on my phone... Then change the settings in the default class to what you want, or set a channel variable at the start of the call for the MusicOnHold class you want. Thanks, --Warren Selby, dCAP On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:44 PM, James Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I'm wanting to change. I want it to stream 100% of the time no matter if the person is in queue or if an agent has answered. Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Warren Selby wcse...@selbytech.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:41:31 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? MOH plays the default class unless specified by a channel variable to play a different one. In queues.conf you can specify the MOH class on a queue by queue basis, but that's the hold music for someone waiting to be answered. Once an agent answers, if they put someone on hold they'll be put into the default MOH class unless a channel variable is specified beforehand. Thanks, --Warren Selby, dCAP On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James M Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 12:47 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Music on Hold not working? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:20:10AM -0500, James Miller wrote: I'm going out on a limb here, as I'm still pretty new to Astrisk and running my own VOIP server, however I believe there is a bug or flaw with the Music on Hold feature. I have it all configured and it should work, and it did briefly several weeks ago, however now, it doesn't work at all and only plays the default hold music. Well, why should it play something different? How have you configured it to play something different? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users [James M Miller] Well one would think that if you configure the Music on Hold feature by setting streams for it to pull from, it should play it no matter how the phone is dialed. Meaning if I dial another extension on the network, I should hear the MOH since I have it programmed with streams. However what is occurring is it is only playing when you are placed into a queue. Once someone picks up the line, it starts playing the default again if that person places the person on hold. One would think that it would play MOH no matter what if you have the streams programmed and override the defaults, at least that's what I'd like for it to do. Regards, James -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update
[asterisk-users] Basic Sip.conf and extensions.conf
Does anyone see any issues here? I cannot get it to work. Passwords are not real! [general] ;register = 999:999...@carrier.callwithus.com register = 999:999...@sip.callwithus.comi context=default port=5060 bindaddr=0.0.0.0 srvlookup=yes ; enable DNS SRV server [joesipshow] type=friend host=sip.callwithus.com authuser=999 username=999 secret=999222 qualify=no insecure=very context=default bindport=5060 fromdomain=sip.callwithus.com qualify=3600 nat=no ; or yes if you are behind NAT [default] exten = s,1,Answer() exten = s,n,Wait(1) exten = s,n,Dial(SIP/callwithus/1703111) exten = s,n,Wait(2) exten = s,n,Hangup() -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Basic Sip.conf and extensions.conf
On 11-01-16 03:58 PM, Thomas Perron wrote: Does anyone see any issues here? I cannot get it to work. Passwords are not real! No, however you did not provide any debug logs [1]. [1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Collecting+Debug+Information -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] res_fax_digium.so crashing
On 11-01-16 03:37 PM, Jeremy Kister wrote: Since digium is apparently blind to users of their Free Fax for Asterisk, does anyone have advice on how to report a crashing problem with res_fax_digium and Asterisk 1.8.2 ? I don't believe Digium is blind to its users: Users of Free Fax For Asterisk are not entitled to any Digium technical support [1]. Purchasing a license key will give you access to them. Alternatively, you can generating an unoptimized backtrace [2] and posting the results to the mailing list, seeing if any member of the community has also had an issue. [1] - http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/fax/README [2] - https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Basic Sip.conf and extensions.conf
OK. I set up the logger.conf via the steps provided. Now, how do I get the results. I reproduced the scenario. On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.com wrote: On 11-01-16 03:58 PM, Thomas Perron wrote: Does anyone see any issues here? I cannot get it to work. Passwords are not real! No, however you did not provide any debug logs [1]. [1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Collecting+Debug+Information -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] res_fax_digium.so crashing
On 01/17/2011 04:37 AM, Jeremy Kister wrote: Since digium is apparently blind to users of their Free Fax for Asterisk, does anyone have advice on how to report a crashing problem with res_fax_digium and Asterisk 1.8.2 ? Use spandsp. I have detailed logs/reports and a backtrace ready, but I have no idea who can help. Nobody, if you don't post them somewhere. Steve -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
Shaun Ruffell sruffell at digium.com writes: Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth considering. http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/ My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high volume list if top posting was the preferred style. For example, the following email from the LKML would need to be more verbose if all the participants were top posting, because they would all have to set the context for their comments. Instead, you can follow the chain of thought for each of the threads contained in the email. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1087665 Anyway, just something to consider, Shaun I could never understand the strong objection regarding top-posting until Shaun shared these examples - though I had been reading lists for more years than I care to admit. These examples clearly show how snipping and bottom posting translate to susccint and clear contextual communication. From now I will evangelize snipping and bottom posting. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
I hate to disagree but I find it much, much easier to follow conversations when the newest reply is on top. I find it too time consuming to scroll through a long message just to find out someone left a three word reply. As I am on my blackberry more than I am at a pc, if I don't see the reply as soon as I open the message it gets deleted without being read. Time is money and I don't have time to scroll through every message. I will agree that sometimes it is helpful to make replies at the bottom and I will attempt to keep the peace by posting at the bottom when I can, but top posting is easier and more clean to read than having 100 lines of and broken lines. Warmest regards, James Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Lesly Dorval lador...@yahoo.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:14:54 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting Shaun Ruffell sruffell at digium.com writes: Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth considering. http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/ My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high volume list if top posting was the preferred style. For example, the following email from the LKML would need to be more verbose if all the participants were top posting, because they would all have to set the context for their comments. Instead, you can follow the chain of thought for each of the threads contained in the email. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1087665 Anyway, just something to consider, Shaun I could never understand the strong objection regarding top-posting until Shaun shared these examples - though I had been reading lists for more years than I care to admit. These examples clearly show how snipping and bottom posting translate to susccint and clear contextual communication. From now I will evangelize snipping and bottom posting. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:31 +, James Miller wrote: I hate to disagree but I find it much, much easier to follow conversations when the newest reply is on top. I find it too time consuming to scroll through a long message just to find out someone left a three word reply. As I am on my blackberry more than I am at a pc, if I don't see the reply as soon as I open the message it gets deleted without being read. Time is money and I don't have time to scroll through every message. I will agree that sometimes it is helpful to make replies at the bottom and I will attempt to keep the peace by posting at the bottom when I can, but top posting is easier and more clean to read than having 100 lines of and broken lines. Warmest regards, James Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Lesly Dorval lador...@yahoo.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:14:54 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting Shaun Ruffell sruffell at digium.com writes: Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth considering. http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/ My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high volume list if top posting was the preferred style. For example, the following email from the LKML would need to be more verbose if all the participants were top posting, because they would all have to set the context for their comments. Instead, you can follow the chain of thought for each of the threads contained in the email. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1087665 Anyway, just something to consider, Shaun I could never understand the strong objection regarding top-posting until Shaun shared these examples - though I had been reading lists for more years than I care to admit. These examples clearly show how snipping and bottom posting translate to susccint and clear contextual communication. From now I will evangelize snipping and bottom posting. I cannot imagine considering scrolling to the end of an email time consuming. Very sad. If you find it too difficult on your blackberry to press the B key (to jump to the bottom of the message) then I am uncertain how you have enough time to even read this email. I'm all for good arguments. That time consuming one is just lazy. I personally find top posting annoying and only serving to an immediate conversation. Particularly useless if referencing the message later. -- With best regards, ---fred http://qxork.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Its not lazy at all its cutting through the fluff and finding the emails worth while. When inside outlook you don't have the hot key b to scroll to the bottom so again, I'd have to scroll down. Add up the time it takes per email x 500 emails, you loose considerable amount of productivity. Top posting has its useful place as well as bottom posting. Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Fred Posner f...@teamforrest.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:43:00 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:31 +, James Miller wrote: I hate to disagree but I find it much, much easier to follow conversations when the newest reply is on top. I find it too time consuming to scroll through a long message just to find out someone left a three word reply. As I am on my blackberry more than I am at a pc, if I don't see the reply as soon as I open the message it gets deleted without being read. Time is money and I don't have time to scroll through every message. I will agree that sometimes it is helpful to make replies at the bottom and I will attempt to keep the peace by posting at the bottom when I can, but top posting is easier and more clean to read than having 100 lines of and broken lines. Warmest regards, James Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Lesly Dorval lador...@yahoo.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:14:54 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting Shaun Ruffell sruffell at digium.com writes: Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth considering. http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/ My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high volume list if top posting was the preferred style. For example, the following email from the LKML would need to be more verbose if all the participants were top posting, because they would all have to set the context for their comments. Instead, you can follow the chain of thought for each of the threads contained in the email. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1087665 Anyway, just something to consider, Shaun I could never understand the strong objection regarding top-posting until Shaun shared these examples - though I had been reading lists for more years than I care to admit. These examples clearly show how snipping and bottom posting translate to susccint and clear contextual communication. From now I will evangelize snipping and bottom posting. I cannot imagine considering scrolling to the end of an email time consuming. Very sad. If you find it too difficult on your blackberry to press the B key (to jump to the bottom of the message) then I am uncertain how you have enough time to even read this email. I'm all for good arguments. That time consuming one is just lazy. I personally find top posting annoying and only serving to an immediate conversation. Particularly useless if referencing the message later. -- With best regards, ---fred http://qxork.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
On Sunday 16 January 2011 20:47:56 James Miller wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Clearly, then, the problem is your blackberry. Ditch it. Or stop subscribing to list email on a device which is clearly not up to the task. Or would you say that since it's inconvenient for you to clean up your dog poo, you shouldn't have to pick it up? And leave it where the rest of us might step in it? If you cannot be bothered to clean up after your dog, maybe you shouldn't be taking your dog to the park. Similarly, we may not be able to fine you for failing to obey list rules, but the rules still apply to you, like it or not. -- Tilghman -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] res_fax_digium.so crashing
On 1/16/2011 4:13 PM, Paul Belanger wrote: I don't believe Digium is blind to its users: Users of Free Fax For Asterisk are not entitled to any Digium technical support [1]. I'm not looking for technical support; I'm just looking for a way to report a bug and possibly help debug/resolve it. But as you know, Digium's website gives FFA users no clear to contact them - even to report problems. issues.asterisk.org has no selection for res_fax_digium since it is not bundled with Asterisk. I call that willful blindness. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for FFA and Asterisk in general - I have several running 1.8.2 working correctly. Alternatively, you can generating an unoptimized backtrace [2] and posting the results to the mailing list, seeing if any member of the community has also had an issue. I didnt expect anyone on this list to be interested, but I suppose you're right. This weekend, i set up a new system running Asterisk 1.8.2 on Debian 5.0.7 where the benchmark told me to use res_fax_digium-1.8.0_1.2.1-core2_32 (i also tried generic_32 but that crashed as well). Asterisk correctly detects the fax and transfers to the fax context. But moments after ReceiveFax is called, asterisk crashes, with no tif written where I've directed it to. I have several files including backtraces and config files at http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/fax/ -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 21:43 -0500, Fred Posner wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:31 +, James Miller wrote: I cannot imagine considering scrolling to the end of an email time consuming. Very sad. If you find it too difficult on your blackberry to press the B key (to jump to the bottom of the message) then I am uncertain how you have enough time to even read this email. I'm all for good arguments. That time consuming one is just lazy. I personally find top posting annoying and only serving to an immediate conversation. Particularly useless if referencing the message later. _ reply to bottom poster - bottom reply to to top poster - top bottom poster who doesnt snip - delete bottom poster who snips too much - delete _ Do you want your replys to be read, or dont you care? As for lazyness, most bottom posters dont seem to bother to snip. Peoples email clients, work habits and environment mean that people to work the way thats comfortable to them. You want your mails read, you work with them, not get on a soap box and say YOU MUST BOTTOM POST. My own view (and I have been using email since 1994 is top posting is best, but I am willing to bottom post, though usually I just delete or dont bother to read the majority. BillK -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
We obviously have all our own opinions about being on top or bottom. And it boils down to personal preference obviously. I think in all cases, top posting is by far superior. But I think the battle will continue ad infinitum. One, because of speedups in finding the most recent content which will always be on the top. Two, with the new content on top, reading list posts from any phone becomes really easy. If you have a particular thread you're following, you can quickly look at the new reply without having to do anything other than open the email! I don't know of any phone that's 'smart' enough to auto scroll to the bottom when you open up a list post where someone has bottom posted. On 01/16/2011 10:17 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Sunday 16 January 2011 20:47:56 James Miller wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Clearly, then, the problem is your blackberry. Ditch it. Or stop subscribing to list email on a device which is clearly not up to the task. Or would you say that since it's inconvenient for you to clean up your dog poo, you shouldn't have to pick it up? And leave it where the rest of us might step in it? If you cannot be bothered to clean up after your dog, maybe you shouldn't be taking your dog to the park. Similarly, we may not be able to fine you for failing to obey list rules, but the rules still apply to you, like it or not. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
On 01/16/2011 10:28 PM, Mark Murawski wrote: We obviously have all our own opinions about being on top or bottom. And it boils down to personal preference obviously. And it looks like I top posted, heh. I just usually hit reply and start typing, the default is top. I guess I go both ways. :P -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
Surely there is some mail client smart enough to be able to flip around the levels of indenting so most recent is top or bottom. If not quit bitching and make one - I will continue top posting since I don't seem to be alone in preferring it. On 01/16/2011 10:28 PM, Mark Murawski wrote: We obviously have all our own opinions about being on top or bottom. And it boils down to personal preference obviously. I think in all cases, top posting is by far superior. But I think the battle will continue ad infinitum. One, because of speedups in finding the most recent content which will always be on the top. Two, with the new content on top, reading list posts from any phone becomes really easy. If you have a particular thread you're following, you can quickly look at the new reply without having to do anything other than open the email! I don't know of any phone that's 'smart' enough to auto scroll to the bottom when you open up a list post where someone has bottom posted. On 01/16/2011 10:17 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Sunday 16 January 2011 20:47:56 James Miller wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Clearly, then, the problem is your blackberry. Ditch it. Or stop subscribing to list email on a device which is clearly not up to the task. Or would you say that since it's inconvenient for you to clean up your dog poo, you shouldn't have to pick it up? And leave it where the rest of us might step in it? If you cannot be bothered to clean up after your dog, maybe you shouldn't be taking your dog to the park. Similarly, we may not be able to fine you for failing to obey list rules, but the rules still apply to you, like it or not. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
On 01/17/2011 10:31 AM, Mark Murawski wrote: On 01/16/2011 10:28 PM, Mark Murawski wrote: We obviously have all our own opinions about being on top or bottom. And it boils down to personal preference obviously. And it looks like I top posted, heh. I just usually hit reply and start typing, the default is top. I guess I go both ways. :P Hi, I thought this kind of discussion didn't exists in asterisk list. I guess most tech list members will argue on top-vs-bottom subject at some point :) anton -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:47 +, James Miller wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Its not lazy at all its cutting through the fluff and finding the emails worth while. When inside outlook you don't have the hot key b to scroll to the bottom so again, I'd have to scroll down. Add up the time it takes per email x 500 emails, you loose considerable amount of productivity. Top posting has its useful place as well as bottom posting. Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Fred Posner f...@teamforrest.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:43:00 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:31 +, James Miller wrote: I hate to disagree but I find it much, much easier to follow conversations when the newest reply is on top. I find it too time consuming to scroll through a long message just to find out someone left a three word reply. As I am on my blackberry more than I am at a pc, if I don't see the reply as soon as I open the message it gets deleted without being read. Time is money and I don't have time to scroll through every message. I will agree that sometimes it is helpful to make replies at the bottom and I will attempt to keep the peace by posting at the bottom when I can, but top posting is easier and more clean to read than having 100 lines of and broken lines. Warmest regards, James Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected -Original Message- From: Lesly Dorval lador...@yahoo.com Sender: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:14:54 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting Shaun Ruffell sruffell at digium.com writes: Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth considering. http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/ My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high volume list if top posting was the preferred style. For example, the following email from the LKML would need to be more verbose if all the participants were top posting, because they would all have to set the context for their comments. Instead, you can follow the chain of thought for each of the threads contained in the email. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1087665 Anyway, just something to consider, Shaun I could never understand the strong objection regarding top-posting until Shaun shared these examples - though I had been reading lists for more years than I care to admit. These examples clearly show how snipping and bottom posting translate to susccint and clear contextual communication. From now I will evangelize snipping and bottom posting. I cannot imagine considering scrolling to the end of an email time consuming. Very sad. If you find it too difficult on your blackberry to press the B key (to jump to the bottom of the message) then I am uncertain how you have enough time to even read this email. I'm all for good arguments. That time consuming one is just lazy. I personally find top posting annoying and only serving to an immediate conversation. Particularly useless if referencing the message later. -- With best regards, ---fred http://qxork.com In outlook, one would assume you're using a pc. You can press the end key. You get 500 emails per day on your blackberry and you have time to read this list? The whole I get so many emails argument never impresses me. Either (a) you should hire an assistant, (b) weed out useless emails, or (c) prioritize with filters. Again, this is probably useless to convey. I believe in bottom posting. You in top. Let's not justify it with pointless arguments and turn it into some sort of religious war (like Ubuntu vs. CentOS). -- With best regards, ---fred http://qxork.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 22:18 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Sunday 16 January 2011 20:47:56 James Miller wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Clearly, then, the problem is your blackberry. Ditch it. Or stop subscribing to list email on a device which is clearly not up to the task. Or would you say that since it's inconvenient for you to clean up your dog poo, you shouldn't have to pick it up? And leave it where the rest of us might step in it? If you cannot be bothered to clean up after your dog, maybe you shouldn't be taking your dog to the park. Similarly, we may not be able to fine you for failing to obey list rules, but the rules still apply to you, like it or not. -- Tilghman -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users [James M Miller] I honestly don't see why we are arguing over top or bottom posting. Its really juvenile and it shouldn't make a difference. If you want the conversation read by me, post at the top, otherwise, it finds the trash can. Simple. Regards. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] res_fax_digium.so crashing
On 11-01-16 10:18 PM, Jeremy Kister wrote: I'm not looking for technical support; I'm just looking for a way to report a bug and possibly help debug/resolve it. But as you know, Digium's website gives FFA users no clear to contact them - even to report problems. issues.asterisk.org has no selection for res_fax_digium since it is not bundled with Asterisk. I call that willful blindness. I can check into the policy for reporting crashes / bugs in the morning. The Asterisk issue tracker is only for Asterisk (Open source), since res_fax_digium is not distributed with Asterisk we cannot triage the issue on the tracker. I didnt expect anyone on this list to be interested, but I suppose you're right. You never know who is watching the list. :) Asterisk correctly detects the fax and transfers to the fax context. But moments after ReceiveFax is called, asterisk crashes, with no tif written where I've directed it to. Looks like a problem related to ast_verbose(), without looking at the source code for res_fax_digium.c, a workaround maybe to disable verbose output. Not a pretty solution, but may help the crashes. -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
Hi, I thought this kind of discussion didn't exists in asterisk list. I guess most tech list members will argue on top-vs.-bottom subject at some point :) anton It only exists when someone starts the discussion. The top posters never start it. Bottom posting wouldn't be bad if the posters trimmed all but the message they are replying to from the reply. (See what I did?) Top posting puts the recent replay clearly as the first thing on the screen. I often have messages with 5 to 10 screens of previous posts to wade through to get to the bottom. If repliers would trim old content from their replies, it would save a lot of readers time and make bottom posting very efficient. I went through this type of discussion 20-25 years ago because we were all on 2400 to 14,400 baud modems, and trimming was demanded. Then Rich Text and HTML came along and you should have heard the screaming about bloated messages. Six-ten line signatures with ascii-art were not really appreciated either. Cary Fitch -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
James M Miller wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2011 22:18 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Sunday 16 January 2011 20:47:56 James Miller wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Clearly, then, the problem is your blackberry. Ditch it. Or stop subscribing to list email on a device which is clearly not up to the task. Pretty funny. We have done it this way for decades, so we can't even consider another way. Or even tolerate both ways or even more! Especially for a group who think so highly of themselves and their skill in creating, innovation and ( sometimes ) thinking out of the box . Also interesting that the rule was only added after this discussion got so heated last year. Some of the loudest complainers NEVER trim the list footers, which wastes even more archive space than this thread. The world evolves, technology evolves, perhaps even some users will evolve as well? If ones brain and e-mail client can't handle both top and bottom posts, then DITCH IT! Peg Leg O'Brien Or would you say that since it's inconvenient for you to clean up your dog poo, you shouldn't have to pick it up? And leave it where the rest of us might step in it? If you cannot be bothered to clean up after your dog, maybe you shouldn't be taking your dog to the park. Similarly, we may not be able to fine you for failing to obey list rules, but the rules still apply to you, like it or not. -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
