RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your certification at Astricon... Great - so that's another $3000 every few months then. I'll just laugh at anyone who's stupid enough to show me their certificate. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W a l s h _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
This reminds me of the local computer store owner that put all his certs up on the wall. One that really stood out was his pearl certificate. (pearl? wtf I think he wanted to fake that to say PERL) Never underestimate the power of stupid people with printers. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Walsh Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining ...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your certification at Astricon... Great - so that's another $3000 every few months then. I'll just laugh at anyone who's stupid enough to show me their certificate. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W a l s h _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
I like the idea of a boot camp type course. It would help me futher my knowledge of asterisk. Then again I'm a complete newbie. On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:31 -0600, Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of the local computer store owner that put all his certs up on the wall. One that really stood out was his pearl certificate. (pearl? wtf I think he wanted to fake that to say PERL) Never underestimate the power of stupid people with printers. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Walsh Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining ...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your certification at Astricon... Great - so that's another $3000 every few months then. I'll just laugh at anyone who's stupid enough to show me their certificate. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W a l s h _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons: - By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of knowledge. - Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for many engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. it can reach 2 year salary. Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course. Jorge Mendoza Brian West wrote: I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified... I think me and MANY others are about to walk out of the project over this. I have already spoken with many people that are close to the project. You're hurting US and our ability to make money. I still know the code better than most of the people that will be paying to be certified. You're pushing it here. I REFUSE TO PAY!!! I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us into account that know this software and know it well. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification :: AstriconTraining *** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc., Edvina AB and Sokol Associates today released a new program for training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN connectivity and many VoIP protocols. The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers in Atlanta, GA. The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150 question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team under license from Digium. This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk. The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk. The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21 2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD. Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication needs in a broad variety of environments. DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI telephony interface cards, Asterisk offers a strategic, highly cost-effective approach to voice and data transport over TDM, switched, IP, and Ethernet architectures. Digium provides a highly refined selection of quality hardware and software products, developed and implemented using innovative engineering techniques (primarily open source development). A full range of professional services complement these product lines, including consulting, technical support, and custom software development services. The open source communications revolution is here, and Digium is leading the way. Contacts: . Olle E. Johansson, Edvina AB, Phone +46 8 594 788 10, http://www.astricon.net . Steven M. Sokol, Sokol Associates, Phone: +1.816.822.1807, IaxTel: 700.613.9004 . Digium, press contact Rick Segrest, Phone: +1 (256) 428-6000 http://www.digium.com ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons: - By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of knowledge. - Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for many engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. it can reach 2 year salary. Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course. Ease up gentlemen. Certifications don't mean anything in most environments, and particularly in asterisk work. Certifications have been used by manufacturers for years, but mostly from a marketing and sales perspective. In other words, its another source of revenue for the _company_ (primarily) and establishes some level of bragging rights for their _sales_ people when trying to convince a customer to buy their stuff. It's really a very small piece of market differentiation and nothing more. (Don't get me wrong, there are a few very well respected certifications and those have some meaning behind them. But, they only have value when a fairly large group of individuals are attempting to sell the exact same customer, or in employee promotions. This is certainly not the case with asterisk at this time in any city.) Anyone can develop a training course and anyone can print a piece of paper that says your certified. If you don't like the one proposed, then develop your own list of 150 questions, complete the answers, and print yourself a piece of paper for free. You'll get the exact same effect. Your customers and/or employer will never check into the questions that you had to answer, and over half the time certified people don't have skills to accomplish the objective anyway (particularly when there isn't an industry-respected skills test at the end). On the other hand, many on the -Users and -Dev list already know there is a dramatic need for education, and this one just happens to be one that has stepped up to the plate. Given the stated price, it won't help the 80% that are trying to implement * at home with a $10 pstn card though. :( I hope they expand the training effort to not only address how to configure and deploy *, but maybe sometime in the future address topics related to * development as well. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
Well, they do offer: ...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your certification at Astricon... I can only hope that they follow the FAA's pilot exams and tell us what we need to know to pass and then publish the pool of 600 questions of which 150 will be on the exam, and we'll need 75% to pass. I see new markets opening up here: Asterisk Study Guides (second draft) for only $75, third-party workshops for the exam, and Cliff notes on Asterisk. And I suppose that if you are Certified then you can hope for additional sales leads... I'd like to see the requirements for certification. James Taylor On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:55:58 -0500, Jorge Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons: - By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of knowledge. - Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for many engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. it can reach 2 year salary. Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course. Jorge Mendoza Brian West wrote: I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified... I think me and MANY others are about to walk out of the project over this. I have already spoken with many people that are close to the project. You're hurting US and our ability to make money. I still know the code better than most of the people that will be paying to be certified. You're pushing it here. I REFUSE TO PAY!!! I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us into account that know this software and know it well. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification :: AstriconTraining *** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc., Edvina AB and Sokol Associates today released a new program for training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN connectivity and many VoIP protocols. The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers in Atlanta, GA. The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150 question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team under license from Digium. This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk. The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk. The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21 2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD. Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication needs in a broad variety of environments. DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI
RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
I agree with the certification for 1 main reason, it's something to show your work. Although I've been working with Asterisk for 4 months now and have gotten pretty good (thanks in part to reverse engineering a previous persons dial plans), I still feel there is a lot more out there, stuff I'm missing. I can do a lot, but I also know there's a lot of tips/tricks/advanced things that can be done. I've been asking my company for Asterisk training for a month now and they will probably approve it early next year, but one of the comments I've heard is $2,000 for training and not even a certification to show for it. Corporate will see a certification as proof you learned, that you didn't go to class at their expense and goofed off. So I don't mind getting certified, if it gets them to pay for my training, more power to the dCAP. Whatever it takes to get my company to spend money to make me a better Asterisk Administrator; It's a benefit to them to have me know this knowledge, but it's a major benefit to me to have this knowledge. I'm CCNA trained, I've worked with Cisco's for years now, but never got the actual Cert, nevertheless, I was hired based off my knowledge and experience, not the piece of paper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Mendoza Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:56 PM To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons: - By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of knowledge. - Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for many engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. it can reach 2 year salary. Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course. Jorge Mendoza Brian West wrote: I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified... I think me and MANY others are about to walk out of the project over this. I have already spoken with many people that are close to the project. You're hurting US and our ability to make money. I still know the code better than most of the people that will be paying to be certified. You're pushing it here. I REFUSE TO PAY!!! I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us into account that know this software and know it well. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification :: AstriconTraining *** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc., Edvina AB and Sokol Associates today released a new program for training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN connectivity and many VoIP protocols. The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers in Atlanta, GA. The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150 question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team under license from Digium. This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk. The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
Get out your wallets boys if you want to get sucked in by this line Microsoft did it and sucked in a bunch. that certification and a 3.50 will get you a coffee at starbucks. IT jobs are in the dumper anyway, so again why? do you honestly think you are going to be asked for your asterisk certification when you go for a job Maybe if you want to work at digium. I think they (digium) should spend more time on making cards that work, read truth in advertising, not stretch the truth in advertising, and support the things they advertise, let's see I think not supporting hdlc after they say the card supports is comes to mind. this one's free ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified... I think me and MANY others are about to walk out of the project over this. I have already spoken with many people that are close to the project. You're hurting US and our ability to make money. I still know the code better than most of the people that will be paying to be certified. You're pushing it here. I REFUSE TO PAY!!! I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us into account that know this software and know it well. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification :: AstriconTraining *** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc., Edvina AB and Sokol Associates today released a new program for training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN connectivity and many VoIP protocols. The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers in Atlanta, GA. The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150 question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team under license from Digium. This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk. The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk. The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21 2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD. Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication needs in a broad variety of environments. DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI telephony interface cards, Asterisk offers a strategic, highly cost-effective approach to voice and data transport over TDM, switched, IP, and Ethernet architectures. Digium provides a highly refined selection of quality hardware and software products, developed and implemented using innovative engineering techniques (primarily open source development). A full range of professional services complement these product lines, including consulting, technical support, and custom software development services. The open source communications revolution is here, and Digium is leading the way. Contacts: . Olle E. Johansson, Edvina AB, Phone +46 8 594 788 10, http://www.astricon.net . Steven M. Sokol, Sokol Associates, Phone: +1.816.822.1807, IaxTel: 700.613.9004 . Digium, press contact Rick Segrest, Phone: +1 (256) 428-6000 http://www.digium.com ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz ___ Asterisk-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
Brian West wrote: I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified... I think me and MANY others are about to walk out of the project over this. I have already spoken with many people that are close to the project. You're hurting US and our ability to make money. I still know the code better than most of the people that will be paying to be certified. You're pushing it here. Well from a newbies point of view I hope you don't pull out cause I still need help and you guys that have been around and know it backwards are a great help with setup and problems. I REFUSE TO PAY!!! I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us into account that know this software and know it well. I would have thought that it would be a great idea if in the process of setting this idea up they would need worldwide transer and people on the dev and long timer helpers on users list would have been prime place to find those people. Might have been an idea to come up with a Testing course first for those who think they are good enough and if they are they can pass and become the support/trainers for * in the future. Just my thoughts. And as I said above Please don't leave you guys are way to mucch support for us newbies! David bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification :: AstriconTraining *** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc., Edvina AB and Sokol Associates today released a new program for training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN connectivity and many VoIP protocols. The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers in Atlanta, GA. The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150 question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team under license from Digium. This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk. The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk. The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21 2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD. Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication needs in a broad variety of environments. DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI telephony interface cards, Asterisk offers a strategic, highly cost-effective approach to voice and data transport over TDM, switched, IP, and Ethernet architectures. Digium provides a highly refined selection of quality hardware and software products, developed and implemented using innovative engineering techniques (primarily open source development). A full range of professional services complement these product lines, including consulting, technical support, and custom software development services. The open source communications revolution is here, and Digium is leading the way. Contacts: . Olle E. Johansson, Edvina AB, Phone +46 8 594 788 10, http://www.astricon.net . Steven M. Sokol, Sokol Associates, Phone: