RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-21 Thread Kevin Walsh
 
 ...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without
 attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in
 combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future
 releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your
 certification at Astricon... 
 
Great - so that's another $3000 every few months then.  I'll just
laugh at anyone who's stupid enough to show me their certificate.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-21 Thread Brian West
This reminds me of the local computer store owner that put all his certs up
on the wall.  One that really stood out was his pearl certificate. (pearl?
wtf I think he wanted to fake that to say PERL)  Never underestimate the
power of stupid people with printers.

bkw

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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk
 training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
 
 
  ...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without
  attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in
  combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future
  releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your
  certification at Astricon...
 
 Great - so that's another $3000 every few months then.  I'll just
 laugh at anyone who's stupid enough to show me their certificate.
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-21 Thread William Betts
I like the idea of a boot camp type course. It would help me futher my
knowledge of asterisk. Then again I'm a complete newbie.


On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:31 -0600, Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This reminds me of the local computer store owner that put all his certs up
 on the wall.  One that really stood out was his pearl certificate. (pearl?
 wtf I think he wanted to fake that to say PERL)  Never underestimate the
 power of stupid people with printers.
 
 bkw
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Walsh
  Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:04 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE:[Asterisk-biz]Asterisk
  training andcertification :: AstriconTraining
 
  
   ...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without
   attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in
   combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future
   releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your
   certification at Astricon...
  
  Great - so that's another $3000 every few months then.  I'll just
  laugh at anyone who's stupid enough to show me their certificate.
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-20 Thread Jorge Mendoza
I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons:
- By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of 
knowledge.
- Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first 
world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for 
many  engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. 
it can reach 2 year salary.

Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide 
certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course.

Jorge Mendoza
Brian West wrote:
I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I
don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified...  I think me and MANY
others are about to walk out of the project over this.  I have already
spoken with many people that are close to the project.  You're hurting US
and our ability to make money.  I still know the code better than most of
the people that will be paying to be certified.  You're pushing it here. 

I REFUSE TO PAY!!!  I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us
into account that know this software and know it well.
bkw

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification ::
AstriconTraining
*** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification
Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc.,
Edvina AB and Sokol  Associates today released a new program for
training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the
leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN
connectivity and many VoIP protocols.
The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day
bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US
and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the
same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September
this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers
in Atlanta, GA.
The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk
Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150
question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and
configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team
under license from Digium.
This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the
enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a
professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff
or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a
mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk.
The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business
ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of
Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With
the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges
from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the
Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering
with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification
enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are
able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk.
The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21
2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD.
Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net
AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since
it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the
operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary
applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication
needs in a broad variety of environments.
DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's
first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI telephony
interface cards, Asterisk offers a strategic, highly cost-effective
approach to voice and data transport over TDM, switched, IP, and
Ethernet architectures.
Digium provides a highly refined selection of quality hardware and
software products, developed and implemented using innovative
engineering techniques (primarily open source development). A full range
of professional services complement these product lines, including
consulting, technical support, and custom software development services.
The open source communications revolution is here, and Digium is leading
the way.
Contacts:
.   Olle E. Johansson, Edvina AB, Phone +46 8 594 788 10,
http://www.astricon.net
.   Steven M. Sokol, Sokol  Associates,
Phone: +1.816.822.1807, IaxTel: 700.613.9004
.   Digium, press contact Rick Segrest,
Phone: +1 (256) 428-6000
http://www.digium.com

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-20 Thread Rich Adamson
 I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons:
 - By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of 
 knowledge.
 - Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first 
 world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for 
 many  engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. 
 it can reach 2 year salary.
 
 Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide 
 certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course.
 

Ease up gentlemen. Certifications don't mean anything in most environments,
and particularly in asterisk work.

Certifications have been used by manufacturers for years, but mostly from
a marketing and sales perspective. In other words, its another source of
revenue for the _company_ (primarily) and establishes some level of bragging
rights for their _sales_ people when trying to convince a customer to buy
their stuff. It's really a very small piece of market differentiation
and nothing more. (Don't get me wrong, there are a few very well respected 
certifications and those have some meaning behind them. But, they only
have value when a fairly large group of individuals are attempting to
sell the exact same customer, or in employee promotions. This is certainly 
not the case with asterisk at this time in any city.)

Anyone can develop a training course and anyone can print a piece of
paper that says your certified. If you don't like the one proposed, then
develop your own list of 150 questions, complete the answers, and print
yourself a piece of paper for free. You'll get the exact same effect.
Your customers and/or employer will never check into the questions that
you had to answer, and over half the time certified people don't have
skills to accomplish the objective anyway (particularly when there isn't
an industry-respected skills test at the end).

On the other hand, many on the -Users and -Dev list already know there
is a dramatic need for education, and this one just happens to be one 
that has stepped up to the plate. Given the stated price, it won't help
the 80% that are trying to implement * at home with a $10 pstn card
though. :(

I hope they expand the training effort to not only address how to
configure and deploy *, but maybe sometime in the future address 
topics related to * development as well.

Rich


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-20 Thread James Taylor
Well, they do offer:
...For Asterisk gurus, that believe that you can take the exam without  
attending the training, there will be exam oppurtunities setup in  
combination with Astricon conferences. When we update dCAP for future  
releases of Asterisk (1.1, 2.0), you will be able to upgrade your  
certification at Astricon...

I can only hope that they follow the FAA's pilot exams and tell us what we  
need to know to pass and then publish the pool of 600 questions of which  
150 will be on the exam, and we'll need 75% to pass.

I see new markets opening up here: Asterisk Study Guides (second draft)  
for only $75, third-party workshops for the exam, and Cliff notes on  
Asterisk.

And I suppose that if you are Certified then you can hope for additional  
sales leads...

I'd like to see the requirements for certification.
James Taylor

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:55:58 -0500, Jorge Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons:
- By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of  
knowledge.
- Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first  
world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for  
many  engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc.  
it can reach 2 year salary.

Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide  
certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course.

Jorge Mendoza
Brian West wrote:
I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here  
and I
don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified...  I think me and MANY
others are about to walk out of the project over this.  I have already
spoken with many people that are close to the project.  You're hurting  
US
and our ability to make money.  I still know the code better than most  
of
the people that will be paying to be certified.  You're pushing it  
here.  I REFUSE TO PAY!!!  I know you guys mean well but you didn't  
take any of us
into account that know this software and know it well.
 bkw

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification ::
AstriconTraining
*** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification
Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc.,
Edvina AB and Sokol  Associates today released a new program for
training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the
leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN
connectivity and many VoIP protocols.
The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day
bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US
and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the
same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in  
September
this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and  
developers
in Atlanta, GA.

The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk
Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150
question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and
configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team
under license from Digium.
This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in  
the
enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a
professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff
or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a
mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk.

The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business
ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of
Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions.  
With
the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges
from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the
Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for  
partnering
with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification
enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are
able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk.

The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21
2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275  
USD.
Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net

AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world.  
Since
it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the
operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to  
proprietary
applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all  
telecommunication
needs in a broad variety of environments.

DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the  
industry's
first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI 

RE: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz]Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Rodan
I agree with the certification for 1 main reason, it's something to show
your work.

Although I've been working with Asterisk for 4 months now and have gotten
pretty good (thanks in part to reverse engineering a previous persons dial
plans), I still feel there is a lot more out there, stuff I'm missing. I can
do a lot, but I also know there's a lot of tips/tricks/advanced things that
can be done.

I've been asking my company for Asterisk training for a month now and they
will probably approve it early next year, but one of the comments I've heard
is $2,000 for training and not even a certification to show for it.

Corporate will see a certification as proof you learned, that you didn't go
to class at their expense and goofed off. So I don't mind getting certified,
if it gets them to pay for my training, more power to the dCAP.

Whatever it takes to get my company to spend money to make me a better
Asterisk Administrator; It's a benefit to them to have me know this
knowledge, but it's a major benefit to me to have this knowledge.

I'm CCNA trained, I've worked with Cisco's for years now, but never got the
actual Cert, nevertheless, I was hired based off my knowledge and
experience, not the piece of paper. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Mendoza
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz]Asterisk
training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

I'm in agree with Brian for the following reasons:
- By principle I'm against the certification: it is not a proof of 
knowledge.
- Certification is discriminatory: only the people from the first 
world should be certificated, USD $ 3.275,00 is one year salary for 
many  engineers in developing countries. If you add travel, hotel, etc. 
it can reach 2 year salary.

Why they do not post the 150 question exam in the web and provide 
certification for peoples who answer correctly? Free of course.

Jorge Mendoza

Brian West wrote:
 I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and
I
 don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified...  I think me and MANY
 others are about to walk out of the project over this.  I have already
 spoken with many people that are close to the project.  You're hurting US
 and our ability to make money.  I still know the code better than most of
 the people that will be paying to be certified.  You're pushing it here. 
 
 I REFUSE TO PAY!!!  I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of
us
 into account that know this software and know it well.
 
 bkw
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification ::
AstriconTraining

*** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification

Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc.,
Edvina AB and Sokol  Associates today released a new program for
training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the
leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN
connectivity and many VoIP protocols.

The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day
bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US
and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the
same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September
this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers
in Atlanta, GA.

The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk
Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150
question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and
configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team
under license from Digium.

This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the
enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a
professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff
or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a
mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk.

The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business
ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of
Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With
the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges
from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the
Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering
with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification
enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are
able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk

Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-20 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
Get out your wallets boys if you want to get sucked in by
this line
Microsoft did it and sucked in a bunch. that certification
and a 3.50 will get you a coffee at starbucks.  IT jobs
are in the dumper anyway, so again why?
do you honestly think you are going to be asked for your
asterisk certification when you go for a job  Maybe
if you want to work at digium.
I think they (digium) should spend more time on making cards that
work, read truth in advertising, not stretch the truth in
advertising, and support the things they advertise, let's see
I think not supporting hdlc after they say the card supports is
comes to mind.
this one's free
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2004-12-19 Thread Brian West
I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I
don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified...  I think me and MANY
others are about to walk out of the project over this.  I have already
spoken with many people that are close to the project.  You're hurting US
and our ability to make money.  I still know the code better than most of
the people that will be paying to be certified.  You're pushing it here. 

I REFUSE TO PAY!!!  I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us
into account that know this software and know it well.

bkw

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson
 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification ::
 AstriconTraining
 
 *** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification
 
 Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc.,
 Edvina AB and Sokol  Associates today released a new program for
 training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the
 leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN
 connectivity and many VoIP protocols.
 
 The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day
 bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US
 and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the
 same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September
 this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers
 in Atlanta, GA.
 
 The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk
 Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150
 question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and
 configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team
 under license from Digium.
 
 This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the
 enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a
 professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff
 or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a
 mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk.
 
 The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business
 ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of
 Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With
 the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges
 from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the
 Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering
 with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification
 enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are
 able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk.
 
 The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21
 2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD.
 Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net
 
 AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since
 it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the
 operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary
 applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication
 needs in a broad variety of environments.
 
 DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's
 first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI telephony
 interface cards, Asterisk offers a strategic, highly cost-effective
 approach to voice and data transport over TDM, switched, IP, and
 Ethernet architectures.
 Digium provides a highly refined selection of quality hardware and
 software products, developed and implemented using innovative
 engineering techniques (primarily open source development). A full range
 of professional services complement these product lines, including
 consulting, technical support, and custom software development services.
 The open source communications revolution is here, and Digium is leading
 the way.
 
 Contacts:
 . Olle E. Johansson, Edvina AB, Phone +46 8 594 788 10,
   http://www.astricon.net
 . Steven M. Sokol, Sokol  Associates,
   Phone: +1.816.822.1807, IaxTel: 700.613.9004
 . Digium, press contact Rick Segrest,
   Phone: +1 (256) 428-6000
   http://www.digium.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] [Asterisk-Dev] RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification :: AstriconTraining

2004-12-19 Thread David Uzzell
Brian West wrote:
I feel this is a slap in the face for those of us that have been here and I
don't feel I should HAVE to pay to be certified...  I think me and MANY
others are about to walk out of the project over this.  I have already
spoken with many people that are close to the project.  You're hurting US
and our ability to make money.  I still know the code better than most of
the people that will be paying to be certified.  You're pushing it here. 

Well from a newbies point of view I hope you don't pull out cause I 
still need help and you guys that have been around and know it backwards 
are a great help with setup and problems.


I REFUSE TO PAY!!!  I know you guys mean well but you didn't take any of us
into account that know this software and know it well.

I would have thought that it would be a great idea if in the process of 
setting this idea up they would need worldwide transer and people on the 
dev and long timer helpers on users list would have been prime place to 
find those people.

Might have been an idea to come up with a Testing course first for those 
who think they are good enough and if they are they can pass and become 
the support/trainers for * in the future.

Just my thoughts.
And as I said above Please don't leave you guys are way to mucch support 
for us newbies!

David
bkw

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Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification ::
AstriconTraining
*** AsteriskT Open Source Linux PBX Training and Certification
Huntsville, AL and Kansas City, MO, December 20, 2004: Digium, Inc.,
Edvina AB and Sokol  Associates today released a new program for
training and certification of Asterisk professionals. Asterisk is the
leading Open Source PBX for Linux, with support for both PSTN
connectivity and many VoIP protocols.
The first class in the Astricon Training product line is the five-day
bootcamp Introduction to Asterisk. This class will be held in the US
and Europe six times during 2005. The organizers and teachers is the
same team that set up the Astricon 2004 conference and expo in September
this year, an event that gathered over 450 Asterisk users and developers
in Atlanta, GA.
The new Asterisk certification is named dCAP, Digium Certified Asterisk
Professional. To get the certification, one has to go through a 150
question exam as well as a practical exam, where the student builds and
configures a PBX. The certification will be given by the Astricon team
under license from Digium.
This is an important step towards greater acceptance of Asterisk in the
enterprise, says Olle E. Johansson of Edvina in Sweden. With a
professional training and certification, you can ensure that your staff
or your consultants has the required skills to setup and manage a
mission-critical PBX platform based on Asterisk.
The Asterisk Open Source project is building a professional business
ecosystem, says Mark Spencer, the founder of Digium and creator of
Asterisk. Many companies are now selling Asterisk-based solutions. With
the 1.0 stable release in September, the Digium hardware that ranges
from the IAXy end-user device to carrier-class quad-T1 cards and the
Digium commercial support we have a professional platform for partnering
with major enterprises. The Astricon training and dCAP certification
enables us to build a network of consultants that we know will and are
able to assist us working on the continued success of Asterisk.
The first training class will be held in Kansas City, MO, January 17-21
2005. The cost for a five-day bootcamp with certification is $3,275 USD.
Details can be found on http://www.astricon.net
AsteriskT is the leading open source PBX, used all over the world. Since
it is Linux-based, it inherits all of the power and stability of the
operating system. Linux provides open source alternatives to proprietary
applications. Asterisk is the first package to fit all telecommunication
needs in a broad variety of environments.
DigiumT is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk, the industry's
first open source PBX. Used in combination with Digium's PCI telephony
interface cards, Asterisk offers a strategic, highly cost-effective
approach to voice and data transport over TDM, switched, IP, and
Ethernet architectures.
Digium provides a highly refined selection of quality hardware and
software products, developed and implemented using innovative
engineering techniques (primarily open source development). A full range
of professional services complement these product lines, including
consulting, technical support, and custom software development services.
The open source communications revolution is here, and Digium is leading
the way.
Contacts:
.   Olle E. Johansson, Edvina AB, Phone +46 8 594 788 10,
http://www.astricon.net
.   Steven M. Sokol, Sokol  Associates,
Phone: