Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Avaya IP phones

2003-12-05 Thread Michael C. Cambria


Ed Rubright wrote:

The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system.  They have 
deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones.  They might be sending 
me one of these phones for use in my home office.
I recently (April) left Avaya.  I was in the IP router/GigE switch area 
mostly, but in the last year plus built media gateways.  So I know 
enough to be dangerous.  Things may also have changed since April.

Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my 
Asterisk server?  I don't know if it is a SIP phone?  I searched thru 
the Avaya site, but can't find whether its a SIP phone or not.  Thought 
maybe someone on this list would know.
No.  Unless things changed, all IP devices were H.323 based, with a lot 
of ATT/Lucent/Avaya extensions.  Extensions exist to add to what is 
lacking in H.323 (e.g. management, such as when you go off-hook, turn 
the green light on etc.)   They pretty much turn the IP phone into one 
of their DCS phones.

Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an 
individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya server 
these 46xx IP telephones use?  I don't know what model of the Avaya 
server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here.
There was no SIP support when I left.   Using QSIG, you might be able to 
interoperate over a crossover T1 cable between the Asterisk server and 
 MultiVantage (or whatever they call call control this week.)

Avaya did support NetMeeting (H.323) clients at one point.  Setting up 
Asterisk as an H.323 client (to Avaya) and SIP on the other side might 
also work.  Others on the list will know more of Asterisk's capabilities 
in this area.

MikeC

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[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Avaya IP phones

2003-12-04 Thread Ed Rubright
Title: Asterisk and Avaya IP phones






The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system. They have deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones. They might be sending me one of these phones for use in my home office.

Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my Asterisk server? I don't know if it is a SIP phone? I searched thru the Avaya site, but can't find whether its a SIP phone or not. Thought maybe someone on this list would know.

Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya server these 46xx IP telephones use? I don't know what model of the Avaya server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here.

Thanks in advance,

=

Ed Rubright





RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Avaya IP phones

2003-12-04 Thread Andy Hester
Title: Asterisk and Avaya IP phones




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  and Avaya IP phones
  The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP 
  phone system. They have deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP 
  telephones. They might be sending me one of these phones for use in my 
  home office.
  Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and 
  work with my Asterisk server? I don't know if it is a SIP phone? I 
  searched thru the Avaya site, but can't find whether its a SIP phone or 
  not. Thought maybe someone on this list would know.
  Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk 
  server or an individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya 
  server these 46xx IP telephones use? I don't know what model of the 
  Avaya server the company has purchased, so I have limited info 
here.
  Thanks in advance, = Ed 
  Rubright
  
  These 
  phones are H.323 phones from what I remember of the documentation, so they are 
  compatible in aVERY general sense. However, I'm sure that there 
  are alot of proprietary things that the phone does that would have to be 
  sniffedout in order to makeit fully compatible if that is even 
  possible. I wouldn't expect any help from Avaya either. 
  :)
  
  HTH
  Andy


Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Avaya IP phones

2003-12-04 Thread Dan Tucny
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 23:02, Ed Rubright wrote:
 The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system.  They
 have deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones.  They might be
 sending me one of these phones for use in my home office.
 
 Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my
 Asterisk server?  I don't know if it is a SIP phone?  I searched thru
 the Avaya site, but can't find whether its a SIP phone or not. 
 Thought maybe someone on this list would know.
 

It's not SIP, currently, well over a year ago Avaya demonstrated SIP
functionality in both the phones and in their Multivantage PBX software.
This has not been released, apparently due to lack of business demand...
I've tried making one work as is with asterisk and a number of other
h323 products, however, I've not yet had any success... Avaya seem to
have really filled these with lots of proprietary hacks... 

 Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an
 individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya
 server these 46xx IP telephones use?  I don't know what model of the
 Avaya server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here.
 

You would not be able to get a SIP phone talking to the Avaya PBX for
the reasons mentioned above... You could possibly get an h323 trunk
between the * and the Avaya PBX, but, I have not tried this yet so this
too may not work... Also, something worth mentioning, the number of IP
trunks you can have is limited by the number the Avaya PBX is licenced
to use... If your company is not currently using trunks, there may not
be any trunks available to use...

Not a lot of good news there, but I hope it's helpful to you...

Dan


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