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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F
> Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Bill seconds
>
> > I showed you that your link to a mob called "cucumber" was
> not helpful
> > to you or anyone else. Their pricing is fure fiction as far as .au
> > telco pricing is concerned.
>
> Really pure fiction? Mob? let see:
> http://www.tel3advantage.com/rates.aspx?AgentNumber=036333&CID=124
> $.03 to regulare, and $.17 to mobile (more than 5 times as much)
>
> http://www.packet8.net/about/international.asp
> again $.03 to regular, and $.23 cents to mobile more than 7
> times as much
>
> http://www.broadvoice.com/rateplans_international_li.html
> $.02 to regular, and $.18 to mobile 9 times as much
>
> http://www.voicepulse.com/plans/InternationalRates.aspx
> $.06 to regular and $.26 to mobile, that makes more than 4
> times as much.
>
> anyhow to show you that cucumber is not the most expensive one:
> http://www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/sas/sas_con_LongDescription.aspx
> $1.30 to australia
> here is one thats even better:
> http://www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/sas/sas_basicinternationa
> lcallingcardrates.aspx
>
> Here is another Verizon rate:
> http://www22.verizon.com/ForYourhome/voip/CallingRates.aspx
> Don't ask me why the difference, but I promise you they don't
> even know.
Fantastic, but not a single .au telco among them... Your telcos may not
get great rates taling to our mobiles, but so what?
>
> >
> > > I already included the link where it showed it costs more
> to call a
> > > cell phone. As for the the 10 times figure I made a
> mistake (since I
> > > was still under the impression that it costs only $.039 to call
> > > australia
> > > landline) and make it 4+ times as much (7 cents to
> landline and 30
> > > to cell, that makes; 30/7=4+2/7 times as much as to a landline).
> >
> > That's what happens when you pull figures out of the air.
>
> Really out of the air?
Yep.
> the interesting part here is that you
> know better than me that a huge chunk of your monthly phone
> bill (not your cell phone) goes towards phone calls made to
> mobile phones,
Really? I have already told you that calls from my land line to my mobiles
are free, what part of that didn't you understand?
> which is something that in the states doesn't
> exist, and still you argue that it doesn't cost you, and you
> divert this argument about what some company charges to
> Australia.
Huh? What are you taking about?
> In an avarage month every American can tell you
> EXACTLY how much they are GOING to pay for their cellphone
> that month, and in most cases it is not a lot based on the
> minutes used.
Ditto for .au
> However in places like Australia that you pay
> for your cell phone when calling from your home phone, there
> is no way of telling how much it is costing you since it
> costs you sometimes as much as 9 times as much to call a cell phone.
** I pay _exactly_ $0.00 each month to call my mobiles regardless of
the number of calls, however you would have to pay to call _my_ mobiles, its
called preselection, and it's a feature of my telco.
>
> >
> > >
> > > > for the 5 mobiles that I own, (my family members) the calls
> > > > between them and my land lines are free.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You already mentioned that (see below) that is NOT the argument.
> > >
> >
>
> Because basic math teaches us that 2 negatives cancel each
> other, and I told you that the same is available in the
> states, so this argument is negated with the exact same
> argument that I have, and that is that I don't have to pay to
> ANY customer that is in the same network that I am (currently
> SprintPCS) nor does he pay for the incoming. So far all you
> have is only 5, and in the states I get about 30 Million
> phone numbers that I can call for free UNLIMITED (besides for
> nights and weekends that are completely free), so if you want
> this is another one for me.
>
Kewl! Its tit-for-tat time :D
> >
> > > > Again, as the originator of the call I get to choose the
> > > amount I spend.
> > > >
> > > > > Don't
> > > > > you see how they succeeded in making you believe that
> your cell
> > > > > phone is cheaper? I told you that none Amercians might not
> > > > > understand this. :)
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I see how _some_ americans don't get it.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > when I don't originate the call, however in .us if you get
> > > > > called, you
> > > > > > pay, that can easily cost you a heap of money that you can
> > > > > > only control by switching the phone off, and where is the
> > > point in that?
> > > > >
> > > > > Really?? cost you a heap of money? only by swithcing the
> > > phone off?
> > > > > what ever happened to not picking up?
> > > >
> > > > Ok, there is that, so long as you take time to determine
> > > whethe
