Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Shaun Ewing
Nonsense.

If you have access to the firmware, they're fantastic phones and the
best phones I've ever used.

If you buy the phones new from an authorised dealer, buying the
Smartnet contract will cost a few dollars and only take a couple of
days to process giving you full access to Cisco's website (including
the firmware).

-Shaun

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:19:10 -0400, Kanuri, Seshu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 CISCO 7960G  is may not be a good decision. Without Call Manager,
 this is garbage.
 
 A friend of mine bought this a couple of days ago and had to
 return quickly, to get the refund.
 
 Seshu Kanuri
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[Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Sascha Knific
By the way: To be legal you also need to buy a SIP license (150 US$ list
price). Cisco spare components are sold without any license or software...
It would had been better you had bought a phone with a software license.

Regards
Sascha

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 Hi everybody,
 
 I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global
 spare without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get
 firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is
 the default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with
 asterisk?
 
 Thank you very much
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Devenijn
I have to agree that the hardware is fanatastic ... but the functionality is rather 
poor 

--- example A ---
receive call A
answer A
Receive call B
answer B
You can't link/transfer these 2 damned calls.

--- example B ---
You first have to push new call before dialing a number.
this seems to be a detail but 1° why ? and 2° try to migrate users from another system 
...
--- example C ---
an a bit of a proffesional phone transfering a call should be easy and possible in all 
times : 
first push more and then transfer  again why ???
You only can transfer if you prepared your transfer !

I tend to suspect Cisco not to fine tune their phones for SIP because they are a bit 
scarry ... for their callmanager ?

Give me a combination of the HArdware of cisco and the software of a Snom200 and THAT 
would be a GREAT phone !

Michael





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Nonsense.

If you have access to the firmware, they're fantastic phones and the
best phones I've ever used.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Shaun Ewing
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:08:41 +0200, Michael Devenijn
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 --- example B ---
 You first have to push new call before dialing a number.
 this seems to be a detail but 1° why ? and 2° try to migrate users from another 
 system ...

I don't know how your handsets are setup, but I have *never* had to do
that with my 7940/7960 phones (unless using speakerphone, in which
case it's either New Call or the speaker button).

I simply pick up the phone and dial away. Because I have a dialplan
setup, the phones sense when enough digits have been dialed and sends
the call immediately.

All people need to remember here is to dial 0 before the external
number. My 80 year old Grandmother has even used the Cisco phones with
no problems, and she hasn't even used a computer before.

-Shaun
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Devenijn
like i said this is a detail look at the other comments 

but to clearify my point : 
Try to dial a number without pushing a button or picking up the handset. (dial your 
number and then pickup the handset or indeed with a dialplan it uses automatically the 
speakerphone)

This is so easy to make it work but why does Cisco not do it ??

but i use also the cisco 7905G and their every point i made against the 7960 does work 
!? but it is not handsfree !!! it sounds strange but i prefer the 7905g

Michael





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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:08:41 +0200, Michael Devenijn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- example B ---
 You first have to push new call before dialing a number.
 this seems to be a detail but 1° why ? and 2° try to migrate users from another 
 system ...

I don't know how your handsets are setup, but I have *never* had to do
that with my 7940/7960 phones (unless using speakerphone, in which
case it's either New Call or the speaker button).

I simply pick up the phone and dial away. Because I have a dialplan
setup, the phones sense when enough digits have been dialed and sends
the call immediately.

All people need to remember here is to dial 0 before the external
number. My 80 year old Grandmother has even used the Cisco phones with
no problems, and she hasn't even used a computer before.

-Shaun
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread xfastjackx
Sascha Knific wrote:
By the way: To be legal you also need to buy a SIP license (150 US$ list
price). Cisco spare components are sold without any license or software...
It would had been better you had bought a phone with a software license.
Regards
Sascha
 

but it says Callmanager Licence - I want to use it with asterisk only.
I thought the callmanager is something like asterisk?!
bye
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Holger Schurig
 Try to dial a number without pushing a button or picking up the
 handset. (dial your number and then pickup the handset or indeed with a
 dialplan it uses automatically the speakerphone)

 This is so easy to make it work but why does Cisco not do it ??

Grandstream can't do it, either.

With my current Siemens Octophone F20 I can do:

a) dial numbers, e.g. 12345
b) lift up the handset
c) I'm connected and can talk

Basically a) and b) are switchable, just as you please.

Instead of b) lift up the handset I could also do b) press the 
speakerphone button.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-15 Thread Hermann Wecke
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, xfastjackx wrote:
 I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. [...] so could please someone
 send me the SIP-firmware?

Search the list:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8q=site%3Alists.digium.com+cisco+firmware+sip

-- 
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[Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread xfastjackx
Hi everybody,
I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global 
spare without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get 
firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is 
the default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with 
asterisk?

Thank you very much
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread Leif Madsen
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:26:27 +0200, xfastjackx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global
 spare without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get
 firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is
 the default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with
 asterisk?

I am using SIP image 6.3 right now.  I'm pretty sure it would be
illegal to send it to you though.  I read on the wiki that you can get
some license to download it for like $8 a year or something.  I'd try
there.

googling

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Cisco -- is the page I found it on.

site:voip-info.org $8 -- is the search command I used on google to
find it (I'm feeling lucky should take you to it)

Leif Madsen
http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread Kanuri, Seshu
Hi All,

CISCO 7960G  is may not be a good decision. Without Call Manager, 
this is garbage.

A friend of mine bought this a couple of days ago and had to 
return quickly, to get the refund.

Seshu Kanuri

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE


Hi everybody,

I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global 
spare without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get 
firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is 
the default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with 
asterisk?

Thank you very much


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread William Suffill
You need a cisco smartnet license to legally download the firmwares
for the phone. This would include the sip firemware

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:26:27 +0200, xfastjackx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global
 spare without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get
 firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is
 the default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with
 asterisk?
 
 Thank you very much
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread W. Kevin Hunt
Uhhmm...
it takes some work to get them going, and you'll need smartnet to get
the sip image, but when you get it done right, NOTHING beats them...

W. Kevin Hunt

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Hi All,

CISCO 7960G  is may not be a good decision. Without Call Manager, this
is garbage.

A friend of mine bought this a couple of days ago and had to return
quickly, to get the refund.

Seshu Kanuri

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE


Hi everybody,

I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global
spare without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get
firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is
the default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with
asterisk?

Thank you very much


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread Matt
Seshu, I disagree completely with what you say.  I've have configure and
been using 7960G's (30 of them) with Asterisk over SIP for the last few
months and they work absolutely perfectly.

Xfastjackx, with regards to sending you the SIP firmware you need to contact
a cisco, or a cisco reseller and obtain the appropriate maintenance contact.
See http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Cisco%20Phones for details.
The normally ship with the Skinny protocol as default.  Upgrading is easy,
see: http://www.wheely-bin.co.uk/cisco/



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Hi All,

CISCO 7960G  is may not be a good decision. Without Call Manager, this is
garbage.

A friend of mine bought this a couple of days ago and had to return quickly,
to get the refund.

Seshu Kanuri

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Hi everybody,

I will receive my CISCO 7960G tomorrow. I've ordered it as a global spare
without any callmanager licence. Now I don't know if I can get
firmware-updates so could please someone send me the SIP-firmware? Is the
default firmware the skinny one? Wich would be better to use with
asterisk?

Thank you very much


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CISCO 7960G FIRMWARE

2004-07-14 Thread Joshua M. Thompson
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 17:19 -0400, Kanuri, Seshu wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 CISCO 7960G  is may not be a good decision. Without Call Manager, 
 this is garbage.

 A friend of mine bought this a couple of days ago and had to 
 return quickly, to get the refund.

I run a couple several 7960G and 7940G phones at home using SIP (no Call
Manager) and they are the best phones I've ever owned. Was your friend
just unable to find SIP firmware for them?

-- 
Joshua M. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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