Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 04:26:26PM -0600, Ed Devine wrote:
> It shouldn't matter if the inbound line is centrex, it's just a phone line
> ringing into asterisk at that point. For the outbound side of the equation,
> you'll have to dial 9 (or other digit as defined by the system) get dialtone
> and send the dialed digits.
>
> You might try:
>
> exten => _9XX,1,dial(zap/g3/${EXTEN})
>
> replace zap/g3 with whatever you're using to dial outbound. This should put
> you on the track to figuring out how to get centrex outbound working.
My problem is to get * to see the phone *ringing*, so it can be answered.
A standard phone can get calls (phone rings) and make calls (you canb break
dialtone by hitting a key, dial 9 to get out). Asterisk simply doesn't see
the line ring. The folks at the remote end are going to take the system
home where there is a standard POTS line, and see if that's any different.
Being 550 miles away makes diagnosis hard...
Tim
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
> Em Seg 01 Nov 2004 19:18, Tim Sailer escreveu: > > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:13:07PM -0200, Marcelo Pacheco wrote: > > > If you plug a plain analog phone to the line, then you need an FXO card > > > in it's place. > > > > Yup. It works with a plain ol' phone, Fax, and modem, but you need to > > dial 9 to get out. Just a generic install of Asterisk and having the > > FXO card configured, asterisk never sees the line ring. > > > > > Centrex usually means that you have hired a virtual PBX system. That in > > > itself doesn't mean FXS/FXO/T1/E1, a Centrex could be shipped to you in > > > many diferent ways. > > > > sigh. I hate phone companies. > > I have the same issue you have, except that the issue is with a real > (Brazilian) PBX. I have 2 american phones (I live in Brazil) that won't > detect a ring from that PBX, but if I put another phone in parallel, so I can > hear the ring, I can pick up that phone and answer, everything else works ok. > However both a TDM400P FXO module and an MD3200 FXO work ok with that PBX. It use to be very common for US phone ringers to be tuned to some specific frequency (eg, 20hz, 30hz,... 60hz) for use in party lines. Ringing voltage going to party 1 might use 30hz while ringing voltage to party 2 might be 50 hz. Might you have a phone that has one of those ringers? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
Em Seg 01 Nov 2004 19:18, Tim Sailer escreveu: > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:13:07PM -0200, Marcelo Pacheco wrote: > > If you plug a plain analog phone to the line, then you need an FXO card > > in it's place. > > Yup. It works with a plain ol' phone, Fax, and modem, but you need to > dial 9 to get out. Just a generic install of Asterisk and having the > FXO card configured, asterisk never sees the line ring. > > > Centrex usually means that you have hired a virtual PBX system. That in > > itself doesn't mean FXS/FXO/T1/E1, a Centrex could be shipped to you in > > many diferent ways. > > sigh. I hate phone companies. I have the same issue you have, except that the issue is with a real (Brazilian) PBX. I have 2 american phones (I live in Brazil) that won't detect a ring from that PBX, but if I put another phone in parallel, so I can hear the ring, I can pick up that phone and answer, everything else works ok. However both a TDM400P FXO module and an MD3200 FXO work ok with that PBX. This issue is something this Centrex line does that is non-standard, although I'm not sure it will help, go ahead and play with /etc/zaptel.conf changing the defaultzone. Try all of them, one by one. Try putting a multimeter on the line and see what kind of ring voltage do you get. Usually the Telco put out 96Vdc, some PBXes I've seen use 48Vdc. Maybe the ring voltage is a little too low ? The ring cadence, is it non-standard ? Try usecallerid=yes and usedistinctiveringdetection=yes Run asterisk on a highly verbose setting (-vv) and see if it can detect anything at all when the line rings. Marcelo Pacheco M2J Comunicacoes e Informatica Vitoria-ES-Brazil ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
It shouldn't matter if the inbound line is centrex, it's just a phone line
ringing into asterisk at that point. For the outbound side of the equation,
you'll have to dial 9 (or other digit as defined by the system) get dialtone
and send the dialed digits.
You might try:
exten => _9XX,1,dial(zap/g3/${EXTEN})
replace zap/g3 with whatever you're using to dial outbound. This should put
you on the track to figuring out how to get centrex outbound working.
- Original Message -
From: "Tim Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
> Centrex is a type of line and I do not believe there is a compatible card
> for *.
>
> FXS isn't going to cut it. Centrex is a digital type line.
>
> Tim.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Sailer
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:35 PM
> To: Asterisk Users
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
>
> OK folks,
> I'm trying to help get another remote Asterisk box up and running.
> The system currently has a single FXO card, but it doesn't seem to
> be working, my guess is because the inbound line is CENTREX. Knowing
> nothing about Centrex, can someone tell me if I'm right, and need an
> FXS card?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:34:47 -0500, Tim Sailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK folks, > I'm trying to help get another remote Asterisk box up and running. > The system currently has a single FXO card, but it doesn't seem to > be working, my guess is because the inbound line is CENTREX. Knowing > nothing about Centrex, can someone tell me if I'm right, and need an > FXS card? Tim, Have you messed around with your txgain & rx gain in zapata.conf? Also, make sure your distinictive ring isn't enabled... I'm betting it's a configuration issue. -Bryan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
At 03:13 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: Centrex is a type of line and I do not believe there is a compatible card for *. FXS isn't going to cut it. Centrex is a digital type line. Tim. Not true. Centrex can be delivered over any type of switched circuit. I have had it on both POTs and ISDN. It is a virtual PBX hosted at the CO. Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Sailer Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex OK folks, I'm trying to help get another remote Asterisk box up and running. The system currently has a single FXO card, but it doesn't seem to be working, my guess is because the inbound line is CENTREX. Knowing nothing about Centrex, can someone tell me if I'm right, and need an FXS card? Thanks, Tim -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> Tim Sailer >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 726 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Moriches, NY 11955 << ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
On November 1, 2004 04:13 pm, Tim Thompson wrote: > Centrex is a type of line and I do not believe there is a compatible card > for *. > > FXS isn't going to cut it. Centrex is a digital type line. Not around here (Canada) -- Centrex is POTS but the PBX functionality is all "hosted" with the telco. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
> Centrex is a type of line and I do not believe there is a compatible card > for *. > > FXS isn't going to cut it. Centrex is a digital type line. No, it isn't. Centrex is a virtual PBX service Ma Bell is willing to sell you. All it is is a custom service, like Caller-ID, just a bit more "meta" scale. In the old days, we routinely had large Centrex pools of POTS lines for smaller ISP's and BBS's. Centrex was nice because you could manage the hunt system without intervention from Ma Bell - you just dial up into their nice CentrexMate system and you can place orders to your heart's content. People also used Centrex ISDN BRI lines in the days before DSL. You'd get a Centrex BRI with your ISP and a Centrex BRI at your location (usually had to be on the same exchange), and you suddenly had a massive 128Kbps pipe which wasn't billed per-call or per-minute. The only way you'd immediately be able to tell a Centrex POTS line from a standard one, around here, is that it was a "dial 9 first" type of line. That all being said, Centrex lines were occasionally delivered over T1 and a channel bank, with said channel bank being the most likely source for a wide range of bizarre issues, such as the charger for the batteries crapping out, or the batteries leaking all over. This is, of course, not necessarily helpful to the original poster, but hopefully will clear up a little confusion over what "Centrex" is. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
Tim Thompson wrote: Centrex is a type of line and I do not believe there is a compatible card for *. FXS isn't going to cut it. Centrex is a digital type line. That is just plain wrong. Centrex services can be delivered via a variery of ways. In my experience it's usually via analog FXO lines, but ISDN BRI is also supported by most telcos. I see no reason it could not be delivered via ISDN PRI, Channelized voice T-1, etc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:13:07PM -0200, Marcelo Pacheco wrote: > If you plug a plain analog phone to the line, then you need an FXO card in > it's place. Yup. It works with a plain ol' phone, Fax, and modem, but you need to dial 9 to get out. Just a generic install of Asterisk and having the FXO card configured, asterisk never sees the line ring. > Centrex usually means that you have hired a virtual PBX system. That in itself > doesn't mean FXS/FXO/T1/E1, a Centrex could be shipped to you in many > diferent ways. sigh. I hate phone companies. -- >< >> Tim Sailer >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 726 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Moriches, NY 11955 << >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >< (631) 399-2910 IAX 17003992910 << >< ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
Centrex is a type of line and I do not believe there is a compatible card for *. FXS isn't going to cut it. Centrex is a digital type line. Tim. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Sailer Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex OK folks, I'm trying to help get another remote Asterisk box up and running. The system currently has a single FXO card, but it doesn't seem to be working, my guess is because the inbound line is CENTREX. Knowing nothing about Centrex, can someone tell me if I'm right, and need an FXS card? Thanks, Tim -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> Tim Sailer >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 726 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Moriches, NY 11955 << >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >< (631) 399-2910 (888) 924-3728 << >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Centrex
If you plug a plain analog phone to the line, then you need an FXO card in it's place. Centrex usually means that you have hired a virtual PBX system. That in itself doesn't mean FXS/FXO/T1/E1, a Centrex could be shipped to you in many diferent ways. Marcelo Pacheco Em Seg 01 Nov 2004 18:34, Tim Sailer escreveu: > OK folks, > I'm trying to help get another remote Asterisk box up and running. > The system currently has a single FXO card, but it doesn't seem to > be working, my guess is because the inbound line is CENTREX. Knowing > nothing about Centrex, can someone tell me if I'm right, and need an > FXS card? > > Thanks, > Tim ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Centrex
OK folks, I'm trying to help get another remote Asterisk box up and running. The system currently has a single FXO card, but it doesn't seem to be working, my guess is because the inbound line is CENTREX. Knowing nothing about Centrex, can someone tell me if I'm right, and need an FXS card? Thanks, Tim -- >< >> Tim Sailer >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 726 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Moriches, NY 11955 << >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >< (631) 399-2910 (888) 924-3728 << >< ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
