RE: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
Err... I just wanted a Cisco ATA and did not want to start a war :-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: vrijdag 7 maart 2003 0:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence On Thursday 06 March 2003 12:42, Florian Overkamp wrote: While they may not prosecute an individual for having loaded an unlicensed stack on the hardware, it is unwise to suggest it in a publicly available and archived list. Do remember here in the US we have to now worry more about John Ashcroft than the company whose software we use/abuse since John can bring charges on his own without the company. Fine. Luckily, not all of us are in the US. Michiel and I can happily toy around with cisco firmware :-) You haven't been paying attention to world news recently, have you? George, John, Donald, and the rest of the gang think they can invade any country anytime they want (see Afghanistan, Iraq). -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
I can buy a new ATA186 here, but it is sold with a 1-port user license UK, for euro 192, but does that license stop me from using both ports? I can't read the license agreement till I buy the thing, so I don't know what i'm buying... Michiel -- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
the license is needed only with cisco callmanager. so you can ignore it and use both ports with asterisk ;-) -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Michiel Betel Inviato: giovedì 6 marzo 2003 10.43 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence I can buy a new ATA186 here, but it is sold with a 1-port user license UK, for euro 192, but does that license stop me from using both ports? I can't read the license agreement till I buy the thing, so I don't know what i'm buying... Michiel -- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/aster isk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 04:25, Matteo Brancaleoni wrote: the license is needed only with cisco callmanager. so you can ignore it and use both ports with asterisk ;-) Thats wrong according to the debates here and on the FWD mailing list. The unit that Michiel was looking at contains software that connects to the Cisco Call Manager, probably using skinney. What Michiel needs is one with the SIP or H323 software load on it. The units with SIP or H323 loaded on it usually have the license for both ports to use that software. -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Michiel Betel Inviato: giovedì 6 marzo 2003 10.43 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence I can buy a new ATA186 here, but it is sold with a 1-port user license UK, for euro 192, but does that license stop me from using both ports? I can't read the license agreement till I buy the thing, so I don't know what i'm buying... Michiel -- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/aster isk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
Thanks! Is there a safe way to identify (cisco secret part number or something) what SIP loaded ATA to order, or should I call Cisco? I don't really trust the mailorder company guys to sort it out for me as they probably don't sell that many of these units and will probably go uh??? on me if I start questioning Steven Critchfield said: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 04:25, Matteo Brancaleoni wrote: the license is needed only with cisco callmanager. so you can ignore it and use both ports with asterisk ;-) Thats wrong according to the debates here and on the FWD mailing list. The unit that Michiel was looking at contains software that connects to the Cisco Call Manager, probably using skinney. What Michiel needs is one with the SIP or H323 software load on it. The units with SIP or H323 loaded on it usually have the license for both ports to use that software. -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Michiel Betel Inviato: giovedì 6 marzo 2003 10.43 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence I can buy a new ATA186 here, but it is sold with a 1-port user license UK, for euro 192, but does that license stop me from using both ports? I can't read the license agreement till I buy the thing, so I don't know what i'm buying... Michiel -- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/aster isk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:44, Florian Overkamp wrote: At 10:20 6-3-2003 -0600, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 04:25, Matteo Brancaleoni wrote: the license is needed only with cisco callmanager. so you can ignore it and use both ports with asterisk ;-) Thats wrong according to the debates here and on the FWD mailing list. The unit that Michiel was looking at contains software that connects to the Cisco Call Manager, probably using skinney. What Michiel needs is one with the SIP or H323 software load on it. The units with SIP or H323 loaded on it usually have the license for both ports to use that software. Incorrect. The load that includes Skinny protocol also speaks MGCP, which is perfectly useable with Asterisk. Besides, as I understand it Cisco won't care that much if you load it up with the SIP/H323 stack either. But no-one will confirm that officially ofcourse. So to keep this from dragging out like the rest of the threads about this have. While they may not prosecute an individual for having loaded an unlicensed stack on the hardware, it is unwise to suggest it in a publicly available and archived list. Do remember here in the US we have to now worry more about John Ashcroft than the company whose software we use/abuse since John can bring charges on his own without the company. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:30, Michiel Betel wrote: Thanks! Is there a safe way to identify (cisco secret part number or something) what SIP loaded ATA to order, or should I call Cisco? I don't really trust the mailorder company guys to sort it out for me as they probably don't sell that many of these units and will probably go uh??? on me if I start questioning Everything below is from Richard on the FWD mailing list. I quoted his contribution only. -- Let me have go at trying to help explain this.. There currently exists two (2) different ways someone can buy an ata-186/ata-188 from Cisco. Firstly, you can order product codes ATA186-I1 or ATA186-I2 or ATA188-I1 or ATA188-I1 depending on which model you want and in addition to this you MUST order either SW-SMH-UL-ATA-1P (SIP/MGCP/H.323 license for ATA) or SW-CCM-UL-ANA (Cisco CallManager license for ATA). Note that with the CallManager you need a license for EACH port that has a phone connected to the ATA which is connected to CallManager (ie if both ports talk to callmanager then you need 2 licenses) whereas for the SIP/H.323/MGCP code you only need one license even if you use both ports. Secondly, if you order product codes ATA186-I1-1P-CH1 or ATA186-I2-1P-CH1 or ATA188-I2-1P-CH1 or ATA188-I2-1P-CH1 then this has the license included into the price of the ata. ie in this case you do NOT need to purchase a separate SW-SMH-UL-ATA-1P or SW-CCM-UL-ANA license. Once agin if you use both ports with CallManager you will then need to buy ONE (1) additional SW-CCM-UL-ANA license. On most online stores the reseller lists the manufacturers product code so just check which of the above two product codes you are ordering and you will then know if you need to order a separate license or not. Hope this helps, Richard -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: R: [Asterisk-Users] Cisico ATA licence
Well at least we don't have Janet Reno sending tanks in on civilians anymore. Regards MIKE On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 11:59, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:44, Florian Overkamp wrote: At 10:20 6-3-2003 -0600, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 04:25, Matteo Brancaleoni wrote: the license is needed only with cisco callmanager. so you can ignore it and use both ports with asterisk ;-) Thats wrong according to the debates here and on the FWD mailing list. The unit that Michiel was looking at contains software that connects to the Cisco Call Manager, probably using skinney. What Michiel needs is one with the SIP or H323 software load on it. The units with SIP or H323 loaded on it usually have the license for both ports to use that software. Incorrect. The load that includes Skinny protocol also speaks MGCP, which is perfectly useable with Asterisk. Besides, as I understand it Cisco won't care that much if you load it up with the SIP/H323 stack either. But no-one will confirm that officially ofcourse. So to keep this from dragging out like the rest of the threads about this have. While they may not prosecute an individual for having loaded an unlicensed stack on the hardware, it is unwise to suggest it in a publicly available and archived list. Do remember here in the US we have to now worry more about John Ashcroft than the company whose software we use/abuse since John can bring charges on his own without the company. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
