RE: [Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-25 Thread John Todd
At 4:13 PM +0100 on 6/20/04, Kevin Walsh wrote:
Kubat, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Where does the date/time stamp from Caller ID come from?  On my
 extensions ATA188 and IAX2 soft phone the caller id date / time is 12/30
 12:00AM.  The Linux time is correct.  SayUnixTime return the correct
 time. 

My phones have a built-in clock.  The Cisco 7960s are configured to
take their time from a NTP server.  I have a couple of portable DECT
phones connected to a Sipura SPA-2000.  The phones allow the time to
be set from within the setup menu, and the Sipura uses our local NTP
server.
Check whether your phones have a clock.  All of mine do in one way or
another, so I always get the correct time associated with the
Caller*ID notices.
It's possible that the time/date is also encoded into the Caller*ID
signal.  I haven't had cause to look into that.  It's possible that
the DECT phones ignore the local time and use the time provided by the
Sipura (if the Caller*ID signal does indeed supply this information).
Again, I haven't had cause to look into that.
Check whether your ATA device can be configured to use a NTP server.
Also check whether your soft phone, and the phone connected to your
ATA, has a clock you can set.
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While many media adapters (SIP deskphones, analog-to-SIP converters, 
etc.) use NTP as their time-setting protocol, several (SNOM and 
others) use the Date: stamp in the SIP header to set their clocks 
upon an INVITE.

This implies that the time is correctly set (via ntp) on your 
Asterisk server/SIP proxy.  Asterisk currently sends a Date: stamp as 
part of the INVITE, so NTP is not always necessary.  SER recently had 
an update to support this header - see the mailing list.

I actually prefer having both methods on a device (selectable), since 
having to open up firewalls/etc. for NTP from the phones breaks some 
ease-of-implementation models.  (Minor point, but valid in some 
environments.)  SIP should contain everything you need when talking 
to a User-Agent.  Personally, I don't like devices which _require_ 
(other than for provisioning) protocols other than SIP to be 
functional (web, telnet, syslog, snmp, ntp, etc.)

It sounds neat to have things in different protocols, but that leads 
to customer service nightmares in the future.  NTP is pretty 
innocuous, but it's still another "tech note" that you have to give 
to the customer's network team (which, not surprisingly, might not be 
the people installing the phones.)

JT
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-20 Thread Chris Glover
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Kevin Walsh wrote:

> It's possible that the time/date is also encoded into the Caller*ID
> signal.  I haven't had cause to look into that.  It's possible that
> the DECT phones ignore the local time and use the time provided by the
> Sipura (if the Caller*ID signal does indeed supply this information).
> Again, I haven't had cause to look into that.
>

Hi,

Looks like BT Caller ID does include time and date information. have a
look at http://www.sinet.bt.com/227v3p4.pdf


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-20 Thread Kubat, Philip

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:45:00 -0400, Kubat, Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Where does the date/time stamp from Caller ID come from?  On my extensions
ATA188 and IAX2 soft phone the caller id date / time is 12/30 12:00AM.  The
Linux time is correct.  SayUnixTime return the correct time.
> 

As Matteo said, the caller ID date should be generated by the FXS
device. In this case, the ATA 188 should be generating it.

Make sure that your ATA 188 has the correct time. You can have it
fetch the correct time by specifying the NTPIP variable in the
configuration. This variable points to an NTP time server.

-Shaun
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-20 Thread Shaun Ewing
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:45:00 -0400, Kubat, Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Where does the date/time stamp from Caller ID come from?  On my extensions ATA188 
> and IAX2 soft phone the caller id date / time is 12/30 12:00AM.  The Linux time is 
> correct.  SayUnixTime return the correct time.
> 

As Matteo said, the caller ID date should be generated by the FXS
device. In this case, the ATA 188 should be generating it.

Make sure that your ATA 188 has the correct time. You can have it
fetch the correct time by specifying the NTPIP variable in the
configuration. This variable points to an NTP time server.

-Shaun
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-20 Thread Kevin Walsh
Kubat, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (Article auto-converted from unnecessary HTML to nice plain text.)
>
> Where does the date/time stamp from Caller ID come from?  On my
> extensions ATA188 and IAX2 soft phone the caller id date / time is 12/30
> 12:00AM.  The Linux time is correct.  SayUnixTime return the correct
> time.  
> 
My phones have a built-in clock.  The Cisco 7960s are configured to
take their time from a NTP server.  I have a couple of portable DECT
phones connected to a Sipura SPA-2000.  The phones allow the time to
be set from within the setup menu, and the Sipura uses our local NTP
server.

Check whether your phones have a clock.  All of mine do in one way or
another, so I always get the correct time associated with the
Caller*ID notices.

It's possible that the time/date is also encoded into the Caller*ID
signal.  I haven't had cause to look into that.  It's possible that
the DECT phones ignore the local time and use the time provided by the
Sipura (if the Caller*ID signal does indeed supply this information).
Again, I haven't had cause to look into that.

Check whether your ATA device can be configured to use a NTP server.
Also check whether your soft phone, and the phone connected to your
ATA, has a clock you can set.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-20 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo
hi

Il dom, 2004-06-20 alle 16:45, Kubat, Philip ha scritto:
> Where does the date/time stamp from Caller ID come from?  On my
> extensions ATA188 and IAX2 soft phone the caller id date / time is
> 12/30 12:00AM.  The Linux time is correct.  SayUnixTime return the
> correct time.
The date *should* be generated by the fxs device.

When I receive cid on my analog phones via digium fxs cards,
the time is kept up in sync with the server.

Matteo.
 
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[Asterisk-Users] Date Time Stamp with Caller ID

2004-06-20 Thread Kubat, Philip








Where does the date/time stamp from Caller ID come from? 
On my extensions ATA188 and IAX2 soft phone the caller id date / time is 12/30
12:00AM.  The Linux time is correct.  SayUnixTime return the correct time.

 

Any Ideas?   Does this work?

 

Thanks!