RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
Hmmm, it seems to me that a Mr. James Hendrix once showed how a chicken could be cooked on an electric guitar during a public concert. Race ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Pattison Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:23 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile? I guess I need to go over my college electronics again... it's been a while. Ian >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 14:18 >>> Yes, one might think that, IF one didn't understand the nature of electricity and electrical components. SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an "electric" guitar. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Ian Pattison > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:00 AM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile? > > > One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 >>> > Ian Pattison wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled > > everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the > > process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my > > incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I > > quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not > > before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage. > > AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port! > > No they can't survive 89 volts! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 05/20/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Wilson Pickett > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:03 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile? > > > > SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil > eggs on an > > "electric" guitar. > > Of course you can. Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix? Heh-heh... right. I think I'm calling up the same image that you did, though technically, at that point, it became a "naptha guitar". At any rate, the guy was certainly versatile, wasn’t he? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 05/20/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Wilson Pickett > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:03 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile? > > > SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil > eggs on an > > "electric" guitar. > > Of course you can. Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix? I think he fried his mellon, not egg.. ;-) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
> SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an > "electric" guitar. Of course you can. Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
I guess I need to go over my college electronics again... it's been a while. Ian >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 14:18 >>> Yes, one might think that, IF one didn't understand the nature of electricity and electrical components. SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an "electric" guitar. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Ian Pattison > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:00 AM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile? > > > One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 >>> > Ian Pattison wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled > > everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the > > process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my > > incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I > > quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not > > before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage. > > AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port! > > No they can't survive 89 volts! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 05/20/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
Yes, one might think that, IF one didn't understand the nature of electricity and electrical components. SOME people also puzzle over the fact that you can't boil eggs on an "electric" guitar. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Ian Pattison > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:00 AM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile? > > > One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 >>> > Ian Pattison wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled > > everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the > > process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my > > incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I > > quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not > > before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage. > > AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port! > > No they can't survive 89 volts! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 05/20/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
On May 23, 2005 02:44 pm, Ian Pattison wrote: > Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled everything > apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the process of putting > things back together I accidentally connected my incoming lines to my FXS > ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I quickly realized the mistake I made > and corrected things but not before one of my FXS modules was smoked by > incoming ring voltage. Ouch. I'm sorry. > Has anyone else seen this? Also, wouldn't one assume that a module designed > to generate an 89V ring tone could also accept it without being destroyed? While it sounds like something that may be plausible, it's just not true. It's hard to protect against voltage you should be able to generate because the protection circuitry would kick in when YOU generated it too. Speaking as an EE (but nondegreed, I've just been doing it for 10 years) you *can* design in tricks to work around these issues but they just jack up the cost on the device and this is already a cost-sensitive market. I don't blame Digium for not including it at all. Basically it's like saying your portable gas generator should be able to take having 120V applied to it since it can generate 120V. It just doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
One would think if it can generate it it can survive it as well >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/2005 04:07 >>> Ian Pattison wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled everything > apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the process of putting > things back together I accidentally connected my incoming lines to my FXS > ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I quickly realized the mistake I made > and corrected things but not before one of my FXS modules was smoked by > incoming ring voltage. AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port! No they can't survive 89 volts! HEHEHE Better call Digium! :) Bad Luck man! -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
Ian Pattison wrote: Hi all, Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage. AHAHAHA You burnt your FXS port! No they can't survive 89 volts! HEHEHE Better call Digium! :) Bad Luck man! -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Digium FXS modules too fragile?
Hi all, Yesterday, in an attempt to take back my phone room, I pulled everything apart as far back as the demarc and rebuilt it. In the process of putting things back together I accidentally connected my incoming lines to my FXS ports and my phones to my FXO ports. I quickly realized the mistake I made and corrected things but not before one of my FXS modules was smoked by incoming ring voltage. dmesg now says: Freshmaker version: 71 Freshmaker passed register test Module 0: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode) Module 1: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode) Boosting ringinger on slot 3 (89V peak) Module 2: Installed -- AUTO FXS/DPO Timeout waiting for calibration of module 3 Timeout waiting for calibration of module 3 Proslic Failed on Second Attempt to Auto Calibrate Proslic Failed on Second Attempt to Calibrate Manually. (Try -DNO_CALIBRATION in Makefile) Module 3: FAILED FXS (FCC) Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F (4 modules) Registered tone zone 0 (United States / North America) Registered tone zone 0 (United States / North America) Has anyone else seen this? Also, wouldn't one assume that a module designed to generate an 89V ring tone could also accept it without being destroyed? I've tried sever hard and soft resets to revive the module, reseated the card and the module and moved slots to no avail. Can anyone thing of anything else to try? Thanks, Ian Ian Pattison, Senior Analyst Technology Associates Inc. Tel: 905-459-2100 ext. 204 Mobile: 416-568-6548 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.technologyassociates.ca BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 FN:Ian Pattison EMAIL;WORK;PREF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEL;WORK:416-657-2464 ext. 204 N:Pattison;Ian TITLE:Senior Analyst ADR;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL:;;9052 Creditview Rd.;Brampton;Ontario;L6V 1A1;Canada LABEL;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Ian Pattison=0A= 9052 Creditview Rd.=0A= Brampton, Ontario L6V 1A1=0A= Canada LABEL;DOM;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Ian Pattison=0A= 9052 Creditview Rd.=0A= Brampton, Ontario L6V 1A1 TEL;CELL:416-568-6548 TEL;PREF:416-657-2464 ext. 204 TEL;WORK:905-459-2100 ext. 204 ORG:Technology Associates Inc. END:VCARD ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
