Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-08 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Jay Milk wrote:
That's a known, yet not feasible work-around over accessing an
SMS-center directly.  But the question remains how to accept IMCOMING
messages with *.

It's very simple - you register withj your Telco to receive SMS messages.
When an SMS message arrives, your Telco line will ring and send a 
specific CallerID that indicates that the SMS center is calling.

You should answer the line and start the Asterisk SMS application in 
answer mode. The actuall SMS message is sent via fsk modulation.

In case of a voice line, one can only assume that if you have a DID and 
the codec is uLaw, you might get away with asking the Telco to enable 
SMS for the DID number and hopefully you might be able to get the fsk 
modem connection over the VoIP channel.

Maybe
Gilad
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-08 Thread Iqbal Gandham
I guess, but just as you dont have to really worry about howto send out 
pstn, unless u plug in the E1 into your box, you can just handoff the 
traffic to a sms providers, they interconnect and send sms worldwide 
just as voip is done.

Iqbal
David Boyd wrote:
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 10:23, Jay Milk wrote:
We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
center and get the word out that way.  

Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
Who knows more about this?
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isn't SMS sent out via SS7?
dave
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[Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Jay Milk
We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
center and get the word out that way.  

Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?

Who knows more about this?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Michael Welter
Jay Milk wrote:
We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
center and get the word out that way.  

Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
Who knows more about this?
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Here's one solution if you have a EUR1600 to spend:
http://www.2n.cz/products/gsm_gateways/voip.html
For outbound SMS, I've thought about having an * plug-in open an HTTP 
connection with the cellular provider's web site.  From there I could 
send the message (kinda like the old 3270 screen scrape).

Is SMS part of SS7, or is it a cellular protocol only?  I've seen the 
SMS functions in Asterisk--how are these intended to be used?  Is it 
Europe/GSM only?

Cheers
--
Michael Welter
Introspect Telephony Corp.
Denver, Colorado US
+1.303.674.2575
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.introspect.com
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Rich Adamson
 We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
 While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
 those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
 send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
 center and get the word out that way.  
 
 Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
 voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
 phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
 somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
 carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
 to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
 cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
 through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
 
 Who knows more about this?

Based on previous postings, the SMS thingie is primarly a european thing
and is rather different from the US cellular implementation. Since you
mentioned T-Mobile, I'm assuming you're in the US.

If that assumption is correct, then its not likely you're going to be
able to accomplish your objective without implementing some sort of
site-specific role-your-own mechanism (eg, I don't know of any US cellular
company that would sell you a sms address for your pbx).


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread David Boyd
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 10:23, Jay Milk wrote:
 We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
 While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
 those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
 send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
 center and get the word out that way.  
 
 Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
 voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
 phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
 somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
 carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
 to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
 cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
 through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
 
 Who knows more about this?
 
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isn't SMS sent out via SS7?
dave

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Wilson Pickett
 How can I *accept* messages on my
 voip-based US landline? 

I doubt it. SMS depends upon the sender and receiver talking via FSK
*before* the phone is answered. I wish fax worked this way, by the
way.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread C F
I usually do it by finding out the smtp address to the cellualr
subscribers sms address, and send the message to that address. To find
out an email address that ends up in ones sms inbox: send an email
from the phone to any other email address using sms (most american
phones allow you to send emails using sms), look at the from field.
Verizon is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sprint is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wher phonenumber is a ten digit phone number. I'm not sure about
cingular, att, and nextel.


On Wed,  5 Jan 2005 09:54:00 -0600, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
  While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
  those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
  send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
  center and get the word out that way.
 
  Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
  voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
  phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
  somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
  carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
  to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
  cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
  through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
 
  Who knows more about this?
 
 Based on previous postings, the SMS thingie is primarly a european thing
 and is rather different from the US cellular implementation. Since you
 mentioned T-Mobile, I'm assuming you're in the US.
 
 If that assumption is correct, then its not likely you're going to be
 able to accomplish your objective without implementing some sort of
 site-specific role-your-own mechanism (eg, I don't know of any US cellular
 company that would sell you a sms address for your pbx).
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread William Suffill
Some commerical SMS gateways can provision a # for routing inbound
messages. An example or 2 would be clickatell and ippipi
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Jay Milk
That's a known, yet not feasible work-around over accessing an
SMS-center directly.  But the question remains how to accept IMCOMING
messages with *.

 -Original Message-
 From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:14 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS 
 question, slightly OT
 
 
 I usually do it by finding out the smtp address to the 
 cellualr subscribers sms address, and send the message to 
 that address. To find out an email address that ends up in 
 ones sms inbox: send an email from the phone to any other 
 email address using sms (most american phones allow you to 
 send emails using sms), look at the from field. Verizon is: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sprint is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wher phonenumber is a ten digit phone number. I'm not sure 
 about cingular, att, and nextel.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Jay Milk
 From: Rich Adamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 implementation. Since you mentioned T-Mobile, I'm assuming 
 you're in the US.

The phrase voip-based US landline should have given that away as well
:)  On a related note, T-Mobile or T-Mobil is the European parent of
T-Mobile US (formerly VoiceStream)
 
 going to be able to accomplish your objective without 
 implementing some sort of site-specific role-your-own 
 mechanism (eg, I don't know of any US cellular company that 

The question was partially a how does this work? and can I do that?
type question.  Somehow the providers currently work together to make
message delivery nearly seamless, even with GSM phones in other
countries.  Would be interesting to know what happens with an SMS that
is sent to a landline.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

2005-01-05 Thread Iqbal

Not all providers bind the number to a email address.

I havent set it up, but in terms of sms, if asterisk could send out the
message to a URL, or connect using SMPP then it could be done.

Asterisk --- over http ---url--- url parses number in the GET request
and then fires that request by a provider to the number long/short

Or u could set up kannel on a another box, connect kannel to a provider,
it just like we connect to voip providers, we can also get accounts with
sms providers, then asterisk sends message to port on kannel machine,
kannel will then send out via the SMS provider the message.

Iqbal

On 1/5/2005, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I usually do it by finding out the smtp address to the cellualr
subscribers sms address, and send the message to that address. To find
out an email address that ends up in ones sms inbox: send an email
from the phone to any other email address using sms (most american
phones allow you to send emails using sms), look at the from field.
Verizon is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sprint is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wher phonenumber is a ten digit phone number. I'm not sure about
cingular, att, and nextel.


On Wed,  5 Jan 2005 09:54:00 -0600, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
  While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
  those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
  send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
  center and get the word out that way.
 
  Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
  voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
  phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
  somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
  carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
  to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
  cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
  through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
 
  Who knows more about this?

 Based on previous postings, the SMS thingie is primarly a european thing
 and is rather different from the US cellular implementation. Since you
 mentioned T-Mobile, I'm assuming you're in the US.

 If that assumption is correct, then its not likely you're going to be
 able to accomplish your objective without implementing some sort of
 site-specific role-your-own mechanism (eg, I don't know of any US cellular
 company that would sell you a sms address for your pbx).


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