RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
I will scan it when I get home tonight and post the url to download it from. Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Poz Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? Yes, I would like to see the contract. Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a good friend who used to be a sales rep for them. The entire sales pitch is based on making the customer believe that they are lucky to have been offered the opportunity to beome a Norvergence customer as they are extremely selective. If any technical question where to come up, he was trained to let them know that they where not selected to be part of the program and to move on quickly. I do have a copy of their contract if anyone is interested is taking a look at it. It is an interesting piece of legal work. Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Poz Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? Wow, that was GREAT info... I'm in the NY tri-state area so I'm sure I will run into them as competition. Thanks for sending that link - it's unbelievable; also proves the power of such emailing lists where we can share this type of information about unethical companies! Neil Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Found this: http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htm Many other nasty stories about them too. -- Cheers, Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? So a guy shows up at the the office, after making an appointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk 'phone systems'. After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 and Frame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Well dressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimited local & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'. 'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask some questions, like number porting, like provisioning of DID numbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over. That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up on the appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we are worthy of their cheap service. After I looked at their website, I can hear 'quack quack'. Cheers, WW Willy Wouters ypOne Publishing ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs
RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
Yes, I would like to see the contract.Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a good friend who used to be a sales rep for them. The entire sales pitch is based on making the customer believe that they are lucky to have been offered the opportunity to beome a Norvergence customer as they are extremely selective. If any technical question where to come up, he was trained to let them know that they where not selected to be part of the program and to move on quickly. I do have a copy of their contract if anyone is interested is taking a look at it. It is an interesting piece of legal work. Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J PozSent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:45 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? Wow, that was GREAT info... I'm in the NY tri-state area so I'm sure I will run into them as competition. Thanks for sending that link - it's unbelievable; also proves the power of such emailing lists where we can share this type of information about unethical companies!Neil Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Found this:http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htmMany other nasty stories about them too.--Cheers,Neil-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?So a guy shows up at the the office, after making anappointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk'phone systems'.After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 andFrame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Welldressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimitedlocal & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'.'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask somequestions, like number porting, like provisioning of DIDnumbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over.That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up onthe appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we areworthy of their cheap service. After I looked at theirwebsite, I can hear 'quack quack'.Cheers,WW Willy WoutersypOne Publishing___Asterisk-Users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users___Asterisk-Users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!?Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs Do you Yahoo!?Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs
RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
I have a good friend who used to be a sales rep for them. The entire sales pitch is based on making the customer believe that they are lucky to have been offered the opportunity to beome a Norvergence customer as they are extremely selective. If any technical question where to come up, he was trained to let them know that they where not selected to be part of the program and to move on quickly. I do have a copy of their contract if anyone is interested is taking a look at it. It is an interesting piece of legal work. Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Poz Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? Wow, that was GREAT info... I'm in the NY tri-state area so I'm sure I will run into them as competition. Thanks for sending that link - it's unbelievable; also proves the power of such emailing lists where we can share this type of information about unethical companies! Neil Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Found this: http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htm Many other nasty stories about them too. -- Cheers, Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? So a guy shows up at the the office, after making an appointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk 'phone systems'. After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 and Frame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Well dressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimited local & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'. 'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask some questions, like number porting, like provisioning of DID numbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over. That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up on the appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we are worthy of their cheap service. After I looked at their website, I can hear 'quack quack'. Cheers, WW Willy Wouters ypOne Publishing ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs
RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
Wow, that was GREAT info... I'm in the NY tri-state area so I'm sure I will run into them as competition. Thanks for sending that link - it's unbelievable; also proves the power of such emailing lists where we can share this type of information about unethical companies!Neil Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Found this:http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htmMany other nasty stories about them too.--Cheers,Neil-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?So a guy shows up at the the office, after making anappointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk'phone systems'.After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 andFrame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Welldressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimitedlocal & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'.'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask somequestions, like number porting, like provisioning of DIDnumbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over.That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up onthe appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we areworthy of their cheap service. After I looked at theirwebsite, I can hear 'quack quack'.Cheers,WW Willy WoutersypOne Publishing___Asterisk-Users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users___Asterisk-Users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!?Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs
RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
Found this: http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htm Many other nasty stories about them too. -- Cheers, Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ? So a guy shows up at the the office, after making an appointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk 'phone systems'. After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 and Frame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Well dressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimited local & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'. 'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask some questions, like number porting, like provisioning of DID numbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over. That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up on the appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we are worthy of their cheap service. After I looked at their website, I can hear 'quack quack'. Cheers, WW Willy Wouters ypOne Publishing ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
So a guy shows up at the the office, after making an appointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk 'phone systems'. After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 and Frame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Well dressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimited local & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'. 'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask some questions, like number porting, like provisioning of DID numbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over. That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up on the appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we are worthy of their cheap service. After I looked at their website, I can hear 'quack quack'. Cheers, WW Willy Wouters ypOne Publishing ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?
ooops, this should have been norvergence.com -- Lance ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
