Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does Novergence do it ?

2004-05-04 Thread tmpm
a simple google on norvergence & complaint brought these tidbits:

From DSLreports: (note the "accountants" reply)
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8369950~root=cellphones~mode=flat
Some info on the company from the NJ bpu:
http://www.bpu.state.nj.us/wwwroot/telco/TE03040292%2007-09-03.pdf
From "bad business bureau" full description of their scam:
http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff89155.htm
Another description of the scam:
http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/comp.dcom.telecom/2004-01/0218.html
Seems everyone has something to say about them, and its all bad...

My opinion, stay away, VERY far away...theyre New Jersey Mob characters 
masquerading as a telco...one is a convicted bad actor for running a 
slamming business...



At 10:19 5/4/2004, you wrote:

My customer is going to ask for a copy of Norvergence's contract to read
the details.  He said he'd send me a copy when it arrives...  From doing
a little goggleing it sounds like Norvergence is a scam business model
waiting to implode but what do I know.  :)
Lance
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Novergence do it ?

2004-05-04 Thread Andre Normandin
Ahh, just like my momma told me, if it sounds too good to be true, it
usually is.. :-)

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I wouldn't believe it until you see it in writing from Norvergence itself!
If they indeed can do that for $500/month, pass them over to me, I'd be
interested :-)

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I had just about about sold a new asterisk phone system to a local
company when they called back asking if I could match a proposal from
Novergence.com.  I haven't seen anything on paper but was told their
proposal was to provide a new phone system that would replace the
existing 8 line 12 extension system, provide an internet T-1, unlimited
local and long distance, voice mail, and two cellular phones with
unlimited nationwide minutes all for the same $500 per month the
business is spending now.  The internet T-1 would be at least $500 so
I'm a bit confused as to how they go about doing this.  Does anyone have
any details about Novergence and their phone systems and service ???

Thanks,
Lance
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does Novergence do it ?

2004-05-04 Thread Lance Arbuckle

My customer is going to ask for a copy of Norvergence's contract to read
the details.  He said he'd send me a copy when it arrives...  From doing
a little goggleing it sounds like Norvergence is a scam business model
waiting to implode but what do I know.  :)

Lance
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[Asterisk-Users] How does Novergence do it ?

2004-05-03 Thread Lance Arbuckle

I had just about about sold a new asterisk phone system to a local
company when they called back asking if I could match a proposal from
Novergence.com.  I haven't seen anything on paper but was told their
proposal was to provide a new phone system that would replace the
existing 8 line 12 extension system, provide an internet T-1, unlimited
local and long distance, voice mail, and two cellular phones with
unlimited nationwide minutes all for the same $500 per month the
business is spending now.  The internet T-1 would be at least $500 so
I'm a bit confused as to how they go about doing this.  Does anyone have
any details about Novergence and their phone systems and service ???

Thanks,
Lance
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