Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-27 Thread David Boyd
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 13:02 -0500, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Short Answer: No.
 
 Long Answer: Maybe.  If you can get your device to send inband DTMF and 
 tell Asterisk you are using INFO or RFC2833 DTMF, then Asterisk should 
 just pass the DTMF as audio.  Then if the call goes via IAX2 it should 
 be inband.  This is an ungly hack, should not be supported in any way 
 and if it works just count your blessings.
 
 I can think of no reason to ever need to do this.
 
 Matt wrote:
  Is it possible to make Asterisk do inband DTMF over IAX?
Snip---

Ok, I am confused. Are you saying that if I use an IAX2 inter machine
trunk from one asterisk box to another, and terminate a call over the
pstn to a voicemail system or other type of IVR, IAX2 will regenerate
the DTMF tones that were originated  from the original callers phone? I
thought the original posting said that the IAXy device was failing to
pass DTMF through to the termination side of the call.  What have I
missed?


 Dave


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-26 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Matt wrote:
 I can think of no reason to ever need to do this.
 
 You must not peer with Level3, or with anyone who peers with Level3 via IAX :)

Why would anyone want to send traffic/calls to Level3?  A search of the 
mailing list archives is all that is needed to know that. 8-)

I didn't think that Level3 supported IAX connections.  If you are using 
an ITSP that uses Level3, I would hope the ITSP would be using inband 
DTMF on SIP for their connection to Level3.

In any case, that might be a reason, but I don't know if it is a *good* 
reason. 8-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-26 Thread Matt
 mailing list archives is all that is needed to know that. 8-)

We've  never had any issues with L3 and are very happy.


 I didn't think that Level3 supported IAX connections.  If you are using
 an ITSP that uses Level3, I would hope the ITSP would be using inband
 DTMF on SIP for their connection to Level3.

L3 doesn't support IAX.. but if you peer with a L3 provider using IAX
you are still affected.

Why would the ITSP need to use inband?  They can use RFC to L3.


 In any case, that might be a reason, but I don't know if it is a *good*
 reason. 8-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-26 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
David Boyd wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 13:02 -0500, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 Short Answer: No.

 Long Answer: Maybe.  If you can get your device to send inband DTMF and 
 tell Asterisk you are using INFO or RFC2833 DTMF, then Asterisk should 
 just pass the DTMF as audio.  Then if the call goes via IAX2 it should 
 be inband.  This is an ungly hack, should not be supported in any way 
 and if it works just count your blessings.

 I can think of no reason to ever need to do this.

 Matt wrote:
 Is it possible to make Asterisk do inband DTMF over IAX?
 Snip---
 
 Ok, I am confused. Are you saying that if I use an IAX2 inter machine
 trunk from one asterisk box to another, and terminate a call over the
 pstn to a voicemail system or other type of IVR, IAX2 will regenerate
 the DTMF tones that were originated  from the original callers phone? I
 thought the original posting said that the IAXy device was failing to
 pass DTMF through to the termination side of the call.  What have I
 missed?

I think you missed that the IAXy is not supporting this.  The IAXy is 
not taking the out of band DTMF and converting it back to AUDIO to send 
to the device connected to the IAXy.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-26 Thread Matt
 I can think of no reason to ever need to do this.

You must not peer with Level3, or with anyone who peers with Level3 via IAX :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-26 Thread Steven
Yes, it is a Blue Digium IAXy.

It is on my local LAN , so the Linksys SIP is working fine.

It was just a surprising discovery since Digium's owner defined IAX2, specified 
that there can be no in band DTMF and then Disgium 
left this out of the IAXy.

I believe that they assumed that it would only be used as a station phone.

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Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 17:16 -0400, Steven wrote:
 My biggest issue with this is that the Iaxys will not generate DTMF tones 
 onto the analog side..

 Which type of IAXy do you have? I remember having a problem with this
 over a year ago with one of the older IAXy boxes (the blue ones), but it
 seemed to work fine when I swapped it for one of the grey ones.  It's
 been long enough now that I don't remember if I had to do anything else
 special to get it to work.  But I do know for a fact that this
 elementary school has been using my IAXy to drive their paging system
 for over a year.  (I'm not sure that's much help, but maybe it'll spark
 someone else's memory.)

 -- 
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 Community Relations Manager
 Digium, Inc.


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[asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-25 Thread Matt
Is it possible to make Asterisk do inband DTMF over IAX?

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-25 Thread Steven
My biggest issue with this is that the Iaxys will not generate DTMF tones onto 
the analog side..

I tried to use one to run an overhead paging system with, and I could not 
select my zone.

I had to switch over to SIP to get a Linksys to play the DTMF.
It was still out-of-band to the Linksys, but it made the tones over the analog.





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Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Matt wrote:
 Is it possible to make Asterisk do inband DTMF over IAX?

 No. The IAX2 protocol only supports DTMF out-of-band, and no IAX2
 endpoint that I am aware of will 'listen' for inband DTMF in the media
 stream.

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 Director of Software Technologies
 Digium, Inc. - The Genuine Asterisk Experience (TM)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-25 Thread Jared Smith
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 17:16 -0400, Steven wrote:
 My biggest issue with this is that the Iaxys will not generate DTMF tones 
 onto the analog side..

Which type of IAXy do you have? I remember having a problem with this
over a year ago with one of the older IAXy boxes (the blue ones), but it
seemed to work fine when I swapped it for one of the grey ones.  It's
been long enough now that I don't remember if I had to do anything else
special to get it to work.  But I do know for a fact that this
elementary school has been using my IAXy to drive their paging system
for over a year.  (I'm not sure that's much help, but maybe it'll spark
someone else's memory.)

-- 
Jared Smith
Community Relations Manager
Digium, Inc.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-25 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Matt wrote:
 Is it possible to make Asterisk do inband DTMF over IAX?

No. The IAX2 protocol only supports DTMF out-of-band, and no IAX2
endpoint that I am aware of will 'listen' for inband DTMF in the media
stream.

-- 
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Director of Software Technologies
Digium, Inc. - The Genuine Asterisk Experience (TM)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IAX2 INBAND DTMF?

2007-07-25 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Short Answer: No.

Long Answer: Maybe.  If you can get your device to send inband DTMF and 
tell Asterisk you are using INFO or RFC2833 DTMF, then Asterisk should 
just pass the DTMF as audio.  Then if the call goes via IAX2 it should 
be inband.  This is an ungly hack, should not be supported in any way 
and if it works just count your blessings.

I can think of no reason to ever need to do this.

Matt wrote:
 Is it possible to make Asterisk do inband DTMF over IAX?

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[Asterisk-Users] IAX2 and DTMF

2004-12-30 Thread Brent Goran




For efficiency  reliability, when SIP transmits DTMF as non-audio data, it uses RFC2833 or INFO.

My question is - (not knowing much about IAX2) - when IAX2 transmits DTMF as non-audio data - is it also using RFC2833 and/or INFO, or it it using some other IAX2-specific mechanism with its own name?

Thank you,

Brent



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IAX2 and DTMF

2004-12-30 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Brent Goran wrote:
For efficiency  reliability, when SIP transmits DTMF as non-audio data,
it uses RFC2833 or INFO.
My question is - (not knowing much about IAX2) - when IAX2 transmits
DTMF as non-audio data - is it also using RFC2833 and/or INFO, or it it
using some other IAX2-specific mechanism with its own name?
I believe it uses it's own method.  IAX and IAX2 do not support inband 
dtmf in anyway.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IAX2 and DTMF

2004-12-30 Thread steve


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Brent Goran wrote:

 My question is - (not knowing much about IAX2) - when IAX2 transmits
 DTMF as non-audio data - is it also using RFC2833 and/or INFO, or it it
 using some other IAX2-specific mechanism with its own name?

Yep - IAX's protocol is quite different from SIP/RTP.

Steve

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