Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe
On 2 Jun 2003 at 14:35, Brancaleoni Matteo wrote: Little summary what the status is: 1. isdn4linux for real calls not just IVR forget it 2. capi4linux only works with cards active AND passive which do support capi at the moment those are eicon diva and cards from AVM The only passive card at the moment is the fritz card from AVM Problems here are that the passive fritz cards have some annoying thinks like it's a binary library for the capi layer which is restricted for only one card and no SMP box but you can circumvent this with the howto described at the following site http://www.quiss.org/caiviar/Two-Fritzcards-HOWTO which should enable you to use more then 1 card however i didn't manage to get this configuration to work stable as Oliver Brandt reported, or I should say it's REALLY unstable at least here. And not only with the 2 card configuration but in any configuration which means 1 card,one CPU, 2 cards,one CPU and so on so I ordered a AVM B1 PCI V 4.0 to eliminate that. Pauline Middlelink had a suggestion which would be very nice, but i think nobody is able to do it at the moment . To use the zaptel driver and to implement a real isdn4linux driver, because at the moment the isdn4linux is based on the modem- emulation of i4l and that is the reason why you have echo. This approach would solve many problems. You could use the Hisax cards not only on the outside like for the incoming calls but also for internal isdn pbx phonesets which here in europe are cheap and have a lot of nice features already builtin. For this trick see isdn.jolly.de The echo would go away, because it is digital already and I think you could count on a lower CPU usage as well. So maybe an interest group could get some funding together, to get more flexibility to the isdn side of asterisk hope this helps greetings kamido Remember that capi 2.0 doesn't have echo suppressor routines. Only Eicon Diva server cards have on board DSPs, that can be enabled with Eicon custon CAPI commands. (the great * chan_capi already do that). Matteo. Il lun, 2003-06-02 alle 12:39, Michiel Betel ha scritto: My Fritz paasive PCI hasn't crashed so far and works fine, relatively low latency so not too much echo. However for professional use, get an active CAPI card so you can use the CAPI echo supp. routines. Michiel Oliver Brandt said: On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote: Hello, Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ? I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines. I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every once in a while... Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine. CU Oliver ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe
Hallo Klaus-Peter, i am currently working on a zaptel BRI driver which will support the very nice (also nicely priced) hfc-pci based cards and the multiBRI cards. the driver will support TE and NT mode. Any timeplan? I'm considering buying a diva server card with echo cancellation but I'd much prefer your solution :-) Gruss, Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe
There has been a lot of discussion about ISDN BRI on the list - a search will turn up plenty of discussion! You're right about there being a lot of ISDN cards available that are certified for use in Europe. They fall into two categories - active and passive. Passive cards are cheap and generally operate through ISDN4linux and asterisk's chan_modemi4l. The reported disadvantages of this approach are: - delay during calls - echo (it's disputed what the cause of it is but it's a bit of a nuisance) - call tones don't follow PSTN patterns. The active cards (AVM is the major supplier, I think) are better. If you get one with a CAPI interface then you can use the asterisk chan_capi driver. I haven't any experience of this type of card - maybe someone else can provide feedback. Iain --On Monday, June 2, 2003 12:33 am +0200 Piotr Adamiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ? I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines. All the best, Piotr Adamiak -- I am updating my DNA. 'Microsoft Genome 2.0' says I need to reboot my body to continue. I am worried that I may not have enough free chromosomes to allow the full installation to complete. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote: Hello, Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ? I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines. I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every once in a while... Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine. CU Oliver ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe
My Fritz paasive PCI hasn't crashed so far and works fine, relatively low latency so not too much echo. However for professional use, get an active CAPI card so you can use the CAPI echo supp. routines. Michiel Oliver Brandt said: On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote: Hello, Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ? I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines. I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every once in a while... Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine. CU Oliver ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe
Remember that capi 2.0 doesn't have echo suppressor routines. Only Eicon Diva server cards have on board DSPs, that can be enabled with Eicon custon CAPI commands. (the great * chan_capi already do that). Matteo. Il lun, 2003-06-02 alle 12:39, Michiel Betel ha scritto: My Fritz paasive PCI hasn't crashed so far and works fine, relatively low latency so not too much echo. However for professional use, get an active CAPI card so you can use the CAPI echo supp. routines. Michiel Oliver Brandt said: On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote: Hello, Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ? I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines. I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every once in a while... Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine. CU Oliver ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users