Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe

2003-06-03 Thread tturner
On 2 Jun 2003 at 14:35, Brancaleoni Matteo wrote:

Little summary what the status is:

1. isdn4linux for real calls not just IVR forget it
2. capi4linux only works with cards active AND passive which do support capi
at the moment those are eicon diva and cards from AVM
The only passive card at the moment is the fritz card from AVM

Problems here are that the passive fritz cards have some annoying thinks like
it's a binary library for the capi layer which is restricted for only one card 
and no SMP box but you can circumvent this with the howto described at the 
following site
http://www.quiss.org/caiviar/Two-Fritzcards-HOWTO

which should enable you to use more then 1 card

however i didn't manage to get this configuration to work stable as Oliver Brandt
reported, or I should say it's REALLY unstable at least here.
And not only with the 2 card configuration but in any configuration
which means 1 card,one CPU, 2 cards,one CPU and so on

so I ordered a AVM B1 PCI V 4.0   to eliminate that.

Pauline Middlelink had a suggestion which would be very nice, but i think nobody is
able to do it at the moment . To use the zaptel driver and to implement a real 
isdn4linux driver, because at the moment the isdn4linux is based on the modem-
emulation of i4l and that is the reason why you have echo.

This approach would solve many problems.

You could use the Hisax cards not only on the outside like for the incoming calls 
but also for internal isdn pbx phonesets which here in europe are cheap and have
a lot of nice features already builtin. For this trick see isdn.jolly.de

The echo would go away, because it is digital already and I think you could 
count on a lower CPU usage as well.

So maybe an interest group could get some funding together, to get more flexibility
to the isdn side of asterisk


hope this helps

greetings

kamido

 Remember that capi 2.0 doesn't have echo suppressor routines.
 Only Eicon Diva server cards have on board DSPs, that can
 be enabled with Eicon custon CAPI commands.
 (the great * chan_capi already do that).
 
 Matteo.
 
 Il lun, 2003-06-02 alle 12:39, Michiel Betel ha scritto:
  My Fritz paasive PCI hasn't crashed so far and works fine, relatively
  low latency so not too much echo. However for professional use, get an
  active CAPI card so you can use the CAPI echo supp. routines.
  
  Michiel
  
  Oliver Brandt said:
  
   On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote:
   Hello,
  
   Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for
   use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm
   certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there
   any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ?
   I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines.
  
   I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were
   recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole
   call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular
   asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I
   swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's
   suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every
   once in a while...
   Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine.
   CU
 Oliver
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe

2003-06-03 Thread Chris Wetemans
Hallo Klaus-Peter,

 i am currently working on a zaptel BRI driver which will support the
 very nice (also nicely priced) hfc-pci based cards and the multiBRI
 cards. the driver will support TE and NT mode.

Any timeplan?
I'm considering buying a diva server card with echo cancellation but I'd
much prefer your solution :-)

Gruss, Chris


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe

2003-06-02 Thread Iain Stevenson
There has been a lot of discussion about ISDN BRI on the list - a search 
will turn up plenty of discussion!

You're right about there being a lot of ISDN cards available that are 
certified for use in Europe.  They fall into two categories - active and 
passive.  Passive cards are cheap and generally operate through ISDN4linux 
and asterisk's chan_modemi4l.  The reported disadvantages of this approach 
are:

- delay during calls
- echo (it's disputed what the cause of it is but it's a bit of a nuisance)
- call tones don't follow PSTN patterns.
The active cards (AVM is the major supplier, I think) are better.  If you 
get one with a CAPI interface then you can use the asterisk chan_capi 
driver.  I haven't any experience of this type of card - maybe someone else 
can provide feedback.

 Iain





--On Monday, June 2, 2003 12:33 am +0200 Piotr Adamiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for
use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm
certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there
any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ? I
am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines.
All the best,

Piotr Adamiak

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe

2003-06-02 Thread Oliver Brandt
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for 
 use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm 
 certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there 
 any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ?
 I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines.

I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were
recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole
call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular
asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I
swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's
suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every
once in a while...
Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine.
CU
Oliver
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe

2003-06-02 Thread Michiel Betel
My Fritz paasive PCI hasn't crashed so far and works fine, relatively
low latency so not too much echo. However for professional use, get an
active CAPI card so you can use the CAPI echo supp. routines.

Michiel

Oliver Brandt said:

 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote:
 Hello,

 Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for
 use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm
 certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there
 any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ?
 I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines.

 I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were
 recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole
 call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular
 asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I
 swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's
 suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every
 once in a while...
 Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine.
 CU
   Oliver
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN4Linux + Asterisk and Europe

2003-06-02 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo
Remember that capi 2.0 doesn't have echo suppressor routines.
Only Eicon Diva server cards have on board DSPs, that can
be enabled with Eicon custon CAPI commands.
(the great * chan_capi already do that).

Matteo.

Il lun, 2003-06-02 alle 12:39, Michiel Betel ha scritto:
 My Fritz paasive PCI hasn't crashed so far and works fine, relatively
 low latency so not too much echo. However for professional use, get an
 active CAPI card so you can use the CAPI echo supp. routines.
 
 Michiel
 
 Oliver Brandt said:
 
  On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0200, Piotr Adamiak wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Anyone on this group using / implementing * and hardware certified for
  use in Europe ? I believe that ISDN4Linux cards mostly have telecomm
  certificates, so using them should be safe on the client side. Are there
  any major issues / problems associated with using such cards with * ?
  I am talking about a small / very small office with single - few lines.
 
  I tried ISDN4Linux but I had the problem that high voices were
  recognized as DTMF signal wich ended up in beping through the whole
  call. I belive there is a patch out (maybe eve imcluded in the regular
  asterisk code) but I have not tried it. I'm using chan_capi and since I
  swiched to an AVM B1 it works great. With the AVM Fritz (passive) it's
  suppose to work but it actually cause my whole system to crash every
  once in a while...
  Just buy a B1 or so at ebay and you should be fine.
  CU
  Oliver
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