Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
Ok, so I tried making my own cable. I have the Linksys switch. The phone powered up, but never registered. I don't know if this could be a VLAN issue or not. When I got back to my desk, I noticed asterisk was giving off all kinds of notices and warnings. It took restarting asterisk to get the network working again. Asterisk itself was not affecting. (I'm passing some PRI channels through to a legacy box, and that was still working). But, it appeared asterisk could not communicate with the SIP and SCCP phones. I'll have to work on this more afterhours. On 6/14/06, Lacy Moore - Aspendora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was just about to suggest the Powersense module that Cory mentioned. And no, the G models do not support 802.3af. Cory, there was some discussion about just doing the cable only works on "dumb" poe injectors, not the ones that only send power if requested. I was under the impression the Linksys only sent power if requested, and if that was the case only the Powersense would work. Admittedly, I have not tried the cable only approach. The discussions were all from this list several months ago. There was also someone that said the cable that converts standard POE to use for the Polycom non standard POE phones would work as well. I haven't tried this yet either. I may do some experimenting today. Guess I should locate my oldest 7960 first, in case there are sparks and a fire :-) On 6/13/06, Cory Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: There is an RJ45 cabling guide on the WIKI that shows how to create areverse polarity crossover cable to power Cisco legacy PoE phones, and I can attest that it works with all the applications I have tried.Belkin/Powersense also makes an inline module for Cisco CDP that isrelatively inexpensive.Cory J AndrewsVOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil DriveBuffalo, NY 14225++voice - 716.630.1555 X22email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - B2CORY- Original Message -From: "Mike Fedyk" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:54 PMSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch> Tom wrote:>> Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P >> provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both>> the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable>> adapter to work with the 7960G?> Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs? >> I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems> plausible.> ___> --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -->> Asterisk-Users mailing list> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Lacy MooreAspendora, Inc. -- Lacy MooreAspendora, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
>>. Guess I should locate my oldest 7960 first, in case there are sparks and a fire :-) No, you want the NEWEST one, because it’s still under warranty!! ;-) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
I was just about to suggest the Powersense module that Cory mentioned. And no, the G models do not support 802.3af. Cory, there was some discussion about just doing the cable only works on "dumb" poe injectors, not the ones that only send power if requested. I was under the impression the Linksys only sent power if requested, and if that was the case only the Powersense would work. Admittedly, I have not tried the cable only approach. The discussions were all from this list several months ago. There was also someone that said the cable that converts standard POE to use for the Polycom non standard POE phones would work as well. I haven't tried this yet either. I may do some experimenting today. Guess I should locate my oldest 7960 first, in case there are sparks and a fire :-) On 6/13/06, Cory Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is an RJ45 cabling guide on the WIKI that shows how to create areverse polarity crossover cable to power Cisco legacy PoE phones, and I can attest that it works with all the applications I have tried.Belkin/Powersense also makes an inline module for Cisco CDP that isrelatively inexpensive.Cory J AndrewsVOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil DriveBuffalo, NY 14225++voice - 716.630.1555 X22email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM - B2CORY- Original Message -From: "Mike Fedyk" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:54 PMSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch> Tom wrote:>> Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P >> provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both>> the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable>> adapter to work with the 7960G?> Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs? >> I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems> plausible.> ___> --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -->> Asterisk-Users mailing list> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-- Lacy MooreAspendora, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
The Cisco IP phones that end in 1, for instance 7941, 7961, 7971, all support 802.3af standards, and were built just for that. Thanks, Nick Rich Adamson wrote: Tom wrote: At 05:24 AM 6/10/2006, you wrote: " What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived." What obscure cisco phones are you using ? 7960G - pretty obscure huh? You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard phones otherwise it should work ok. Pay attention Fadge: There are many types of POE and at least two types that use 48v and are somewhat 802.3af compliant. Older POE like Cisco take their power over the unused pairs of an ethernet cable. Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Its my understanding the 7960"G" model is .3af compliant, and the older 7960's are not. I think I read that on one of Cisco's pages, but not sure, and obviously I haven't tested it. R. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
There is an RJ45 cabling guide on the WIKI that shows how to create a reverse polarity crossover cable to power Cisco legacy PoE phones, and I can attest that it works with all the applications I have tried. Belkin/Powersense also makes an inline module for Cisco CDP that is relatively inexpensive. Cory J Andrews VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 ++ voice - 716.630.1555 X22 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - B2CORY - Original Message - From: "Mike Fedyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch Tom wrote: Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs? I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems plausible. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
Tom wrote: At 05:24 AM 6/10/2006, you wrote: " What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived." What obscure cisco phones are you using ? 7960G - pretty obscure huh? You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard phones otherwise it should work ok. Pay attention Fadge: There are many types of POE and at least two types that use 48v and are somewhat 802.3af compliant. Older POE like Cisco take their power over the unused pairs of an ethernet cable. Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Its my understanding the 7960"G" model is .3af compliant, and the older 7960's are not. I think I read that on one of Cisco's pages, but not sure, and obviously I haven't tested it. R. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
Tom wrote: Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs? I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems plausible. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
At 05:24 AM 6/10/2006, you wrote: " What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived." What obscure cisco phones are you using ? 7960G - pretty obscure huh? You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard phones otherwise it should work ok. Pay attention Fadge: There are many types of POE and at least two types that use 48v and are somewhat 802.3af compliant. Older POE like Cisco take their power over the unused pairs of an ethernet cable. Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs. So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Tom Fadge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: 10 June 2006 01:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived. It is still sitting sealed in the new packaging while I decide what to do with it; otherwise I would tell you if it was loud or not. Tom At 02:04 PM 6/8/2006, Andres wrote: >We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small >Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet >to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud >fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close >by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. > >Thanks, > >-- >Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
" What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived." What obscure cisco phones are you using ? You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard phones otherwise it should work ok. Fadge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: 10 June 2006 01:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived. It is still sitting sealed in the new packaging while I decide what to do with it; otherwise I would tell you if it was loud or not. Tom At 02:04 PM 6/8/2006, Andres wrote: >We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small >Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet >to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud >fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close >by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. > >Thanks, > >-- >Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
What will you be powering with it? I bought one to power Cisco IP phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived. It is still sitting sealed in the new packaging while I decide what to do with it; otherwise I would tell you if it was loud or not. Tom At 02:04 PM 6/8/2006, Andres wrote: We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, -- Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
Forgot to mention the "snob value". Although it's Linksys it is also branded quite prominently with the Cisco logo, which for some strange reason customers seem to like. Fadge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, -- Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, -- Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
I have been running one in my lab for several months. Its a good switch especially as it is only £200, if you know were to shop. But it is loud, but then most POE switch's are. Get them some earplugs !! Fadge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, -- Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
Andres wrote: We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, Andres, I have had people complain about the fan. I would go so far as to say that it is very loud. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
Forgot to mention the "snob value". Although it's Linksys it is also branded quite prominently with the Cisco logo, which for some strange reason customers seem to like. Fadge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, -- Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch
I have been running one in my lab for several months. Its a good switch especially as it is only £200, if you know were to shop. But it is loud, but then most POE switch's are. Get them some earplugs !! Fadge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk office deployment. There will be no separate wiring closet to put it in. Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan? Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close by. Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch. Thanks, -- Andres ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users