RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Jones










. Guess I
should locate my oldest 7960 first, in case there are sparks and a fire :-)



No, you want the NEWEST one, because its
still under warranty!! ;-)










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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-15 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
Ok, so I tried making my own cable. I have the Linksys switch. The phone powered up, but never registered. I don't know if this could be a VLAN issue or not. 

When I got back to my desk, I noticed asterisk was giving off all kinds of notices and warnings. It took restarting asterisk to get the network working again. Asterisk itself was not affecting. (I'm passing some PRI channels through to a legacy box, and that was still working). But, it appeared asterisk could not communicate with the SIP and SCCP phones.


I'll have to work on this more afterhours.
On 6/14/06, Lacy Moore - Aspendora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was just about to suggest the Powersense module that Cory mentioned. And no, the G models do not support 802.3af.

Cory, there was some discussion about just doing the cable only works on dumb poe injectors, not the ones that only send power if requested. I was under the impression the Linksys only sent power if requested, and if that was the case only the Powersense would work. Admittedly, I have not tried the cable only approach. 


The discussions were all from this list several months ago. There was also someone that said the cable that converts standard POE to use for the Polycom non standard POE phones would work as well. I haven't tried this yet either. 


I may do some experimenting today. Guess I should locate my oldest 7960 first, in case there are sparks and a fire :-)

On 6/13/06, Cory Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 
There is an RJ45 cabling guide on the WIKI that shows how to create areverse polarity crossover cable to power Cisco legacy PoE phones, and I can 
attest that it works with all the applications I have tried.Belkin/Powersense also makes an inline module for Cisco CDP that isrelatively inexpensive.Cory J AndrewsVOIPSupply.com
454 Sonwil DriveBuffalo, NY 14225++voice - 716.630.1555 X22email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs? 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-14 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
I was just about to suggest the Powersense module that Cory mentioned. And no, the G models do not support 802.3af.

Cory, there was some discussion about just doing the cable only works on dumb poe injectors, not the ones that only send power if requested. I was under the impression the Linksys only sent power if requested, and if that was the case only the Powersense would work. Admittedly, I have not tried the cable only approach.


The discussions were all from this list several months ago. There was also someone that said the cable that converts standard POE to use for the Polycom non standard POE phones would work as well. I haven't tried this yet either.


I may do some experimenting today. Guess I should locate my oldest 7960 first, in case there are sparks and a fire :-)
On 6/13/06, Cory Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is an RJ45 cabling guide on the WIKI that shows how to create areverse polarity crossover cable to power Cisco legacy PoE phones, and I can
attest that it works with all the applications I have tried.Belkin/Powersense also makes an inline module for Cisco CDP that isrelatively inexpensive.Cory J AndrewsVOIPSupply.com
454 Sonwil DriveBuffalo, NY 14225++voice - 716.630.1555 X22email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM - B2CORY- Original Message -From: Mike Fedyk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:54 PMSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch Tom wrote: Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P
 provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G? Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-13 Thread Tom

At 05:24 AM 6/10/2006, you wrote:

 What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.

What obscure cisco phones are you using ?


7960G  - pretty obscure huh?



You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard phones
otherwise it should work ok.


Pay attention Fadge:  There are many types of POE and at least two 
types that use 48v and are somewhat 802.3af compliant.  Older POE 
like Cisco take their power over the unused pairs of an ethernet cable.


Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys 
SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused 
pairs.  So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how 
do you make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G?


Tom


Fadge


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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.

It is still sitting sealed in the new packaging while I decide what
to do with it; otherwise I would tell you if it was loud or not.

Tom

At 02:04 PM 6/8/2006, Andres wrote:
We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small
Asterisk office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet
to put it in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud
fan?  Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close
by.  Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch.

Thanks,

--
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tom wrote:
Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys 
SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.  
So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you 
make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G?

Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs?

I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems 
plausible.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Adamson

Tom wrote:

At 05:24 AM 6/10/2006, you wrote:

 What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.

What obscure cisco phones are you using ?


7960G  - pretty obscure huh?


You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard 
phones

otherwise it should work ok.


Pay attention Fadge:  There are many types of POE and at least two types 
that use 48v and are somewhat 802.3af compliant.  Older POE like Cisco 
take their power over the unused pairs of an ethernet cable.


Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P 
provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.  So if both 
the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable 
adapter to work with the 7960G?


Its my understanding the 7960G model is .3af compliant, and the older 
7960's are not. I think I read that on one of Cisco's pages, but not 
sure, and obviously I haven't tested it.


R.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-13 Thread Cory Andrews
There is an RJ45 cabling guide on the WIKI that shows how to create a 
reverse polarity crossover cable to power Cisco legacy PoE phones, and I can 
attest that it works with all the applications I have tried. 
Belkin/Powersense also makes an inline module for Cisco CDP that is 
relatively inexpensive.


Cory J Andrews

VOIPSupply.com
454 Sonwil Drive
Buffalo, NY 14225
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asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch



Tom wrote:
Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys SRW224P 
provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.  So if both 
the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you make a cable 
adapter to work with the 7960G?

Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs?

I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems 
plausible.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-13 Thread Nicholas Kathmann
The Cisco IP phones that end in 1, for instance 7941, 7961, 7971, all 
support 802.3af standards, and were built just for that.


Thanks,
Nick

Rich Adamson wrote:

Tom wrote:

At 05:24 AM 6/10/2006, you wrote:

 What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.

What obscure cisco phones are you using ?


7960G  - pretty obscure huh?


You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre 
standard phones

otherwise it should work ok.


Pay attention Fadge:  There are many types of POE and at least two 
types that use 48v and are somewhat 802.3af compliant.  Older POE 
like Cisco take their power over the unused pairs of an ethernet cable.


Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys 
SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.  
So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you 
make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G?


Its my understanding the 7960G model is .3af compliant, and the 
older 7960's are not. I think I read that on one of Cisco's pages, but 
not sure, and obviously I haven't tested it.


R.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-10 Thread asterisk
 What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP 
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.

What obscure cisco phones are you using ?

You may only need a different fly lead if you have older pre standard phones
otherwise it should work ok.

Fadge


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: 10 June 2006 01:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP 
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.

It is still sitting sealed in the new packaging while I decide what 
to do with it; otherwise I would tell you if it was loud or not.

Tom

At 02:04 PM 6/8/2006, Andres wrote:
We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small 
Asterisk office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet 
to put it in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud 
fan?  Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close 
by.  Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch.

Thanks,

--
Andres

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[Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-09 Thread Andres
We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk 
office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet to put it 
in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan?  Users would not 
be able to tolerate a loud noise close by.  Otherwise we will go with a 
fanless desktop switch.


Thanks,

--
Andres


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-09 Thread asterisk
Forgot to mention the snob value. Although it's Linksys it is also branded
quite prominently with the Cisco logo, which for some strange reason
customers seem to like.

Fadge

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Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk 
office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet to put it 
in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan?  Users would not 
be able to tolerate a loud noise close by.  Otherwise we will go with a 
fanless desktop switch.

Thanks,

-- 
Andres


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-09 Thread Tom
What will you be powering with it?  I bought one to power Cisco IP 
phones but realized that it will not power them before it arrived.


It is still sitting sealed in the new packaging while I decide what 
to do with it; otherwise I would tell you if it was loud or not.


Tom

At 02:04 PM 6/8/2006, Andres wrote:
We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small 
Asterisk office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet 
to put it in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud 
fan?  Users would not be able to tolerate a loud noise close 
by.  Otherwise we will go with a fanless desktop switch.


Thanks,

--
Andres


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-08 Thread asterisk
I have been running one in my lab for several months. It’s a good switch
especially as it is only £200, if you know were to shop. But it is loud, but
then most POE switch's are.

Get them some earplugs !!

Fadge

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Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk 
office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet to put it 
in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan?  Users would not 
be able to tolerate a loud noise close by.  Otherwise we will go with a 
fanless desktop switch.

Thanks,

-- 
Andres


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-08 Thread asterisk
Forgot to mention the snob value. Although it's Linksys it is also branded
quite prominently with the Cisco logo, which for some strange reason
customers seem to like.

Fadge

-Original Message-
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Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk 
office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet to put it 
in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan?  Users would not 
be able to tolerate a loud noise close by.  Otherwise we will go with a 
fanless desktop switch.

Thanks,

-- 
Andres


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-08 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Andres wrote:
We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk 
office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet to put it 
in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan?  Users would not 
be able to tolerate a loud noise close by.  Otherwise we will go with a 
fanless desktop switch.


Thanks,



Andres,

	I have had people complain about the fan.  I would go so far as to say 
that it is very loud.


--
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-08 Thread asterisk

I have been running one in my lab for several months. It’s a good switch
especially as it is only £200, if you know were to shop. But it is loud, but
then most POE switch's are.

Get them some earplugs !!

Fadge

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres
Sent: 08 June 2006 20:05
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

We are currently considering the Linksys POE switch for a small Asterisk 
office deployment.  There will be no separate wiring closet to put it 
in.  Can anybody tell me if this switch has a loud fan?  Users would not 
be able to tolerate a loud noise close by.  Otherwise we will go with a 
fanless desktop switch.

Thanks,

-- 
Andres


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