RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: SIP vs. Skinny protocol

2003-12-24 Thread Ray Burkholder
Skinny phone functionality is 'richer' than SIP phone functionality.  First
off, on a skinny phone, in hands free mode, you can start dialling and the
phone will automatically go off hook.  Sip requires you to manually hit the
speaker button, hit new call, or pickup the phone before dialling.  (One
extra confusing key stroke I have a hard time getting over).

I don't think SIP will work with the expansion modules on a 7960.

Those are a few things I've found.

On Asterisk there is a chan_skinny and a chan_sccp available for skinny
based phones.  Perhaps as more Cisco phones get used with *, more features
will get implemented so they respond in a fashion very similar to a
Callmanager installation.  Maybe Cisco is already doing that in their labs?
That would be cool.

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 I assume there are several people on this list that
 have Cisco Call Manager implementations under their
 belt
 
 We are beginning a call manager implementation and
 the first question I asked Cisco was, should we use
 SIP or Skinny. Cisco is pushing me towards Skinny, 
 saying that I will lose some functionality with SIP.
 They also say that most of their customers implement
 skinny.
 
 I see two obvious benefits to using SIP: 
 
 1. I can get cheaper phones that run SIP, altough
 Cisco just came out with a 7902G for $130 US. 
 
 2. It's an open protocol and is more likely to 
 survive long-term. 
 
 What functionality do I lose by going with Skinny?
 
 Will Cisco eventually go with SIP only and I'll have
 to convert anyway?
 
 Any other pluses or minuses?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: SIP vs. Skinny protocol

2003-12-24 Thread Ernest W. Lessenger
At 11:10 AM 12/24/2003, you wrote:
Skinny phone functionality is 'richer' than SIP phone functionality.  First
off, on a skinny phone, in hands free mode, you can start dialling and the
phone will automatically go off hook.  Sip requires you to manually hit the
speaker button, hit new call, or pickup the phone before dialling.  (One
extra confusing key stroke I have a hard time getting over).
Um, that's a feature of the phone, not of the SIP protocol. My SNOM 200 
lets me dial before picking up the handset no problem.

--Ernest 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: SIP vs. Skinny protocol

2003-12-24 Thread CW_ASN
 Skinny phone functionality is 'richer' than SIP phone functionality.
First
 off, on a skinny phone, in hands free mode, you can start dialling and the
 phone will automatically go off hook.  Sip requires you to manually hit
the
 speaker button, hit new call, or pickup the phone before dialling.  (One
 extra confusing key stroke I have a hard time getting over).

This is not a sip issue, it's a phone funcionality...


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: SIP vs. Skinny protocol

2003-12-24 Thread Lion Templin
Ray Burkholder wrote:

Skinny phone functionality is 'richer' than SIP phone functionality.  First
Skinny *functionality* seems to be 'richer', but it's implementation in 
* is woefully under-functional.  Regardless of individual phone feature 
sets, SIP is far better implemented in * than skinny.  Most features of 
the 7910s I have don't even have supporting code written.

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[Asterisk-Users] OT: SIP vs. Skinny protocol

2003-12-23 Thread Peter Pauly
I assume there are several people on this list that
have Cisco Call Manager implementations under their
belt

We are beginning a call manager implementation and
the first question I asked Cisco was, should we use
SIP or Skinny. Cisco is pushing me towards Skinny, 
saying that I will lose some functionality with SIP.
They also say that most of their customers implement
skinny.

I see two obvious benefits to using SIP: 

1. I can get cheaper phones that run SIP, altough
Cisco just came out with a 7902G for $130 US. 

2. It's an open protocol and is more likely to 
survive long-term. 

What functionality do I lose by going with Skinny?

Will Cisco eventually go with SIP only and I'll have
to convert anyway?

Any other pluses or minuses?
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