RE: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-16 Thread John Laur
 Also almost forgot. They sell the demo voices on their site for 29.99.
 Linux and windows versions. Since I believe what they use is based off
 festival, perhaps the voices could be made to plug into the existing
 festival plugin for asterisk?

I have been working with app_festival for about a week or so now trying
to figure out what is going on with it... The existing app_festival has
a serious bug in it that makes it unsuitable for production use. I
posted about it before, but the jist is that the more channels that are
trying to use app_festival at the same time, the more problems there are
-- the channel will abort, and this will result in asterisk abandoning
the call.  I have tried tracing it with all sorts of things including
stepping back through some truly monumental gdb logs. The problem is not
on the festival side of things, as the preforking festival keeps up fine
with asterisk, and the problem occurs even when using the festival cache
(broken in the current code - my patch fixes it)

I cannot find the bug after a week of poking at the code. As I intended
to use app_festival as a temporary replacement for recorded voice
prompts in an AGI application, it was no big deal at first as it works
100% if if you always wait for the speech to finish and only use one
channel (fine for testing), but after having the flexibility to do
speech synthesis, I can see that it would be a tremendously good
application for even the IVR that I am working on...

Anyway, I hope this speech project gets off the ground. Staying all OSS
is very nice, but after spending a lot of time mucking with it, I'd be
easily willing to spend $50 for a great sounding, working solution. I'm
still going to be poking at app_festival, though, so if anyone has
suggestions or understands some of the internals and wants to work on
this with me, please mail me off-list. Having a 100% working and
production-ready solution for festival would be good for a number of
reasons and I'd like to see this happen too!

~John

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[Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Jeff Noxon
Many of you are familiar with how lousy Festival sounds.

ATT has a product, NaturalVoices, that sounds much better.  There are
male  female voice fonts for US/UK/Indian English, French, Spanish,
and German.

I am considering offering a linux-based text-to-speech engine based on
the NaturalVoices runtime.  An asterisk module would also be provided,
making it easy to add natural sounding synthesis to Asterisk applications.
You could also use it for other purposes, such as home automation.

After discussing royalties with ATT, I have concluded that I can probably
offer such a product at the following prices:

Runtime - $30 intro price with one voice font  one processor
Extra voices/languages - $15 each
Extra processors - $15 each

Depending on demand, the price may rise to $50 at some point.  The lower
the demand, the higher the price, due to ATT's royalty structure.

There is a demo of the synthesis engine here:

http://www.naturalvoices.att.com/demos/

If you would be willing to pay for this kind of software, please e-mail
me privately (not to the list).  Please indicate your purchase timeframe
as well as the number of licenses, extra voices, and processors you
would want.

Regards,

Jeff / 'Bicster' on IRC
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Michael Bielicki
we would buy it even just for emergency prompts generation but we would need 
different languages, like polish and danish as well :))

On Tuesday 15 July 2003 17:07, Jeff Noxon wrote:
 Many of you are familiar with how lousy Festival sounds.

 ATT has a product, NaturalVoices, that sounds much better.  There are
 male  female voice fonts for US/UK/Indian English, French, Spanish,
 and German.

 I am considering offering a linux-based text-to-speech engine based on
 the NaturalVoices runtime.  An asterisk module would also be provided,
 making it easy to add natural sounding synthesis to Asterisk applications.
 You could also use it for other purposes, such as home automation.

 After discussing royalties with ATT, I have concluded that I can probably
 offer such a product at the following prices:

 Runtime - $30 intro price with one voice font  one processor
 Extra voices/languages - $15 each
 Extra processors - $15 each

 Depending on demand, the price may rise to $50 at some point.  The lower
 the demand, the higher the price, due to ATT's royalty structure.

 There is a demo of the synthesis engine here:

 http://www.naturalvoices.att.com/demos/

 If you would be willing to pay for this kind of software, please e-mail
 me privately (not to the list).  Please indicate your purchase timeframe
 as well as the number of licenses, extra voices, and processors you
 would want.

 Regards,

 Jeff / 'Bicster' on IRC
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Renouf
Wow, I thought they charged for this application on a per-channel basis.

I would spend $50 for this in a heartbeat.  I would need English, Dutch,
German, Spanish, Arabic  Russian...

-GSR

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 Many of you are familiar with how lousy Festival sounds.

 ATT has a product, NaturalVoices, that sounds much better.  There are
 male  female voice fonts for US/UK/Indian English, French, Spanish,
 and German.

 I am considering offering a linux-based text-to-speech engine based on
 the NaturalVoices runtime.  An asterisk module would also be provided,
 making it easy to add natural sounding synthesis to Asterisk applications.
 You could also use it for other purposes, such as home automation.

 After discussing royalties with ATT, I have concluded that I can probably
 offer such a product at the following prices:

 Runtime - $30 intro price with one voice font  one processor
 Extra voices/languages - $15 each
 Extra processors - $15 each

 Depending on demand, the price may rise to $50 at some point.  The lower
 the demand, the higher the price, due to ATT's royalty structure.

 There is a demo of the synthesis engine here:

 http://www.naturalvoices.att.com/demos/

 If you would be willing to pay for this kind of software, please e-mail
 me privately (not to the list).  Please indicate your purchase timeframe
 as well as the number of licenses, extra voices, and processors you
 would want.

 Regards,

 Jeff / 'Bicster' on IRC
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Jeff Noxon
Unfortunately, languages other than English/French/Spanish/German cannot
be supported due to the fact that the Natural Voices runtime doesn't
support any other languages.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:44:02PM +0100, Michael Bielicki wrote:
 we would buy it even just for emergency prompts generation but we would need 
 different languages, like polish and danish as well :))
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Albertson

--- Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many of you are familiar with how lousy Festival sounds.
 
 ATT has a product, NaturalVoices, that sounds much better.  There
 are
 male  female voice fonts for US/UK/Indian English, French, Spanish,
 and German.

Festival only sounds bad because you are using it in a very simple way.
It comes with a demo text to speech application that really is no
more then a demo but most people just use the demo app and think
Festival itself sounds bad.  You need to read a bit more.  Also at
the cmu.edu web site are some tools for building your own voices.
These can sound very good and speeak other languages.
If you work at it the sound can be very natural.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Albertson

Sorry, I left out the URL.  Here it is

  http://fife.speech.cs.cmu.edu/festival/

If interrested look at demos on the top menu bar.
You see what is involved in building new databases
for new languages or speaker voices for Festival.

When you complain about the sound you are really complaining
about the database quality or the quality of in mark-up 
embedded in the input text.

In building a new database first you will need to find a
human with a nice sounding voice who speaks the language
with the correct regional accent.  That may be the hardest
part but after that it seems to take about a day or two



--- Chris Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --- Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Many of you are familiar with how lousy Festival sounds.
  
  ATT has a product, NaturalVoices, that sounds much better.  There
  are
  male  female voice fonts for US/UK/Indian English, French,
 Spanish,
  and German.
 
 Festival only sounds bad because you are using it in a very simple
 way.
 It comes with a demo text to speech application that really is no
 more then a demo but most people just use the demo app and think
 Festival itself sounds bad.  You need to read a bit more.  Also at
 the cmu.edu web site are some tools for building your own voices.
 These can sound very good and speeak other languages.
 If you work at it the sound can be very natural.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Albertson

--- Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would you mind giving us a few examples on how we can make festival
 sound better?  (Some sample festival configs would be nice!)
 
 Jared

See my later post where I say Sorry here is the URL
http://fife.speech.cs.cmu.edu/festival/

You might want to look at Festvox which is a tool for
creating new festival databases and also at sable which
is a markup language that allows to you to pass hints to
festival like this:

   As a test of marked-up numbers. Here we have 
   a year SAYAS MODE=date1998/SAYAS, 
   an ordinal SAYAS MODE=ordinal1998/SAYAS, 
   a cardinal SAYAS MODE=cardinal1998/SAYAS, 
   a literal SAYAS MODE=literal1998/SAYAS, 
   and phone number SAYAS MODE=phone1998/SAYAS.

So, one way to improve the voice quality is to have the software
which generates the text to be spoken embed some mark-up
THe software would know if it is generating a phone number,
street addres or a error message and could ad the required
marks

If you poke around you will find a huge body of software that is
centered around festival in some way.  In fact I would not be
surprized at all to find the the ATT voice synthizer is
festival based.  I see that AtT is partially funding the work
done at CMU and festival has no restriction or comercial
use (It is NOT GPL'd it's more like X11)

 
 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 14:41, Chris Albertson wrote:
  --- Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Many of you are familiar with how lousy Festival sounds.
   
   ATT has a product, NaturalVoices, that sounds much better. 
 There
   are
   male  female voice fonts for US/UK/Indian English, French,
 Spanish,
   and German.
  
  Festival only sounds bad because you are using it in a very simple
 way.
  It comes with a demo text to speech application that really is no
  more then a demo but most people just use the demo app and think
  Festival itself sounds bad.  You need to read a bit more.  Also at
  the cmu.edu web site are some tools for building your own voices.
  These can sound very good and speeak other languages.
  If you work at it the sound can be very natural.
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Poll - Would you pay $30-$50 for high quality speech synthesis?

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew John Darnell

 If you would be willing to pay for this kind of software, please e-mail
 me privately (not to the list).  Please indicate your purchase timeframe
 as well as the number of licenses, extra voices, and processors you
 would want.

It should be simple, call an executable, with two parameters, the file where
the text is and what to name the output sound file.

I would pay for that.  We could sell at least 10-15 per month.

-Matt


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