Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
I'm going to have to go against this statement, there's one bug that I need to fix so unfortunately it will have to be Monday now. For those after the IAX/SIP firefly (albeit an old version) get http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/firefly-dev.exe apologies, Adam Adam Hart wrote: They'll be a new version at the end of the day (it's 9:25am now) - The reason it was like that was to cope with overlap for the firefly network going to Freshtel. Freshtel will have the Firefly Network and special version of Firefly (no IAX and SIP) while Virbiage will have a standard IAX and SIP client. Freshtel has taken our Firefly Network to allow us to concentrate on Hardware (Insert vaporware joke here) If anyone's after Australian IAX termination (or Australians wishing to call overseas), try www.freshtel.net - iax server is ctsau.freshtel.net sorry for the dodgy version, Adam usedcanon wrote: Quite interesting, since there version history say 1.4 is the latest. The one you download is 1.7 and only works with Firefly. I have V1.5 which has the option to connect to other services. I am interested to know whats the highest version anyone has that has the other services options. Umar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Mountifield Sent: 27 May 2004 19:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Well, I just downloaded the new 1.7 build from their website (from the same page that states the above), and I see what you mean. When I first ran the new version, it still used my old settings, and successfully connected to my Asterisk server. I looked in the Options dialog, and as you say, there is no third party option at all, only the option to connect to the Firefly network. Moreover, when I changed an unrelated option (sound output device), it then overwrote my settings in the registry with new settings for the Firefly network, Freshtel. Not impressed. Especially since in their FAQ they still explicitly say it can be used with Asterisk systems. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
Hi Adam, Whats the ETA on the hardware phones. Umar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Hart Sent: 28 May 2004 08:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore I'm going to have to go against this statement, there's one bug that I need to fix so unfortunately it will have to be Monday now. For those after the IAX/SIP firefly (albeit an old version) get http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/firefly-dev.exe apologies, Adam Adam Hart wrote: They'll be a new version at the end of the day (it's 9:25am now) - The reason it was like that was to cope with overlap for the firefly network going to Freshtel. Freshtel will have the Firefly Network and special version of Firefly (no IAX and SIP) while Virbiage will have a standard IAX and SIP client. Freshtel has taken our Firefly Network to allow us to concentrate on Hardware (Insert vaporware joke here) If anyone's after Australian IAX termination (or Australians wishing to call overseas), try www.freshtel.net - iax server is ctsau.freshtel.net sorry for the dodgy version, Adam usedcanon wrote: Quite interesting, since there version history say 1.4 is the latest. The one you download is 1.7 and only works with Firefly. I have V1.5 which has the option to connect to other services. I am interested to know whats the highest version anyone has that has the other services options. Umar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Mountifield Sent: 27 May 2004 19:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Well, I just downloaded the new 1.7 build from their website (from the same page that states the above), and I see what you mean. When I first ran the new version, it still used my old settings, and successfully connected to my Asterisk server. I looked in the Options dialog, and as you say, there is no third party option at all, only the option to connect to the Firefly network. Moreover, when I changed an unrelated option (sound output device), it then overwrote my settings in the registry with new settings for the Firefly network, Freshtel. Not impressed. Especially since in their FAQ they still explicitly say it can be used with Asterisk systems. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
On Thu, 27 May 2004, Tony Mountifield wrote: No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: [...] I just download the latest version (1.7 Build 3532) and they are no settings for IAX/SIP, only their own network. Also, it will only crash on my computer after a few seconds, not miliseconds as before... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
I just downloaded it today and the config menus just have for Firefly no SIP or IAX2 On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 12:14, Tony Mountifield wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Cheers Tony ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Well, I just downloaded the new 1.7 build from their website (from the same page that states the above), and I see what you mean. When I first ran the new version, it still used my old settings, and successfully connected to my Asterisk server. I looked in the Options dialog, and as you say, there is no third party option at all, only the option to connect to the Firefly network. Moreover, when I changed an unrelated option (sound output device), it then overwrote my settings in the registry with new settings for the Firefly network, Freshtel. Not impressed. Especially since in their FAQ they still explicitly say it can be used with Asterisk systems. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
Quite interesting, since there version history say 1.4 is the latest. The one you download is 1.7 and only works with Firefly. I have V1.5 which has the option to connect to other services. I am interested to know whats the highest version anyone has that has the other services options. Umar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Mountifield Sent: 27 May 2004 19:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Well, I just downloaded the new 1.7 build from their website (from the same page that states the above), and I see what you mean. When I first ran the new version, it still used my old settings, and successfully connected to my Asterisk server. I looked in the Options dialog, and as you say, there is no third party option at all, only the option to connect to the Firefly network. Moreover, when I changed an unrelated option (sound output device), it then overwrote my settings in the registry with new settings for the Firefly network, Freshtel. Not impressed. Especially since in their FAQ they still explicitly say it can be used with Asterisk systems. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
Hermann Wecke wrote: On Thu, 27 May 2004, Tony Mountifield wrote: No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: [...] I just download the latest version (1.7 Build 3532) and they are no settings for IAX/SIP, only their own network. Also, it will only crash on my computer after a few seconds, not miliseconds as before... Hi Hermann I also downloaded latest version and found no IAX/SIP settings. Then I followed their devel link and it still has the settings. However, I tried to setup SIP and it not even try to register at Asterisk. Gelson ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
usedcanon wrote: Quite interesting, since there version history say 1.4 is the latest. The one you download is 1.7 and only works with Firefly. I have V1.5 which has the option to connect to other services. I am interested to know whats the highest version anyone has that has the other services options. Umar. *snipped i have v1.5 build 3388 and it still works with asterisk ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
They'll be a new version at the end of the day (it's 9:25am now) - The reason it was like that was to cope with overlap for the firefly network going to Freshtel. Freshtel will have the Firefly Network and special version of Firefly (no IAX and SIP) while Virbiage will have a standard IAX and SIP client. Freshtel has taken our Firefly Network to allow us to concentrate on Hardware (Insert vaporware joke here) If anyone's after Australian IAX termination (or Australians wishing to call overseas), try www.freshtel.net - iax server is ctsau.freshtel.net sorry for the dodgy version, Adam usedcanon wrote: Quite interesting, since there version history say 1.4 is the latest. The one you download is 1.7 and only works with Firefly. I have V1.5 which has the option to connect to other services. I am interested to know whats the highest version anyone has that has the other services options. Umar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Mountifield Sent: 27 May 2004 19:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI FireFly no longer works with anything but the FireFly network. No more SIP, No more IAX. It was a damn good IAX client... too bad its crap now. Are you sure? http://www.virbiage.com/firefly/download/ still says the following: Standalone SIP / IAX mode: If you want to use Firefly on our Firefly phone network (with your own voicemail etc.) then you will need to register a phone number. However, you can also use Firefly as a SIP or IAX client on your own network. Well, I just downloaded the new 1.7 build from their website (from the same page that states the above), and I see what you mean. When I first ran the new version, it still used my old settings, and successfully connected to my Asterisk server. I looked in the Options dialog, and as you say, there is no third party option at all, only the option to connect to the Firefly network. Moreover, when I changed an unrelated option (sound output device), it then overwrote my settings in the registry with new settings for the Firefly network, Freshtel. Not impressed. Especially since in their FAQ they still explicitly say it can be used with Asterisk systems. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 09:28, Adam Hart wrote: If anyone's after Australian IAX termination (or Australians wishing to call overseas), try www.freshtel.net - iax server is ctsau.freshtel.net Except I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ mtr ctsau.freshtel.net mtr: Unknown host Perhaps you could just let people know what connectivity options you have (ie, what your IP interconnect point are...) Currently I would have to cross telstra + CCA... Regards, Adam ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
Adam Goryachev wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 09:28, Adam Hart wrote: If anyone's after Australian IAX termination (or Australians wishing to call overseas), try www.freshtel.net - iax server is ctsau.freshtel.net Except I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ mtr ctsau.freshtel.net mtr: Unknown host Perhaps you could just let people know what connectivity options you have (ie, what your IP interconnect point are...) Currently I would have to cross telstra + CCA... Regards, Adam cts-au.freshtel.net sorry, it's hosted at comindico in sydney. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 10:36, Adam Hart wrote: cts-au.freshtel.net sorry, it's hosted at comindico in sydney. Nicer... I get over 100 pings min 14ms avg 34ms max 234ms with one packet dropped. (bad my end, I have bursty traffic for SMTP/POP server) I suppose I could do QoS on outbound, which should improve things somewhat for the remote caller, but that doesn't help inbound packets. Does anyone have any comments on what this would mean for VoIP calls with the above variables? I think the biggest problem is the jitter, does the IAX jitter buffer work at the moment? Would it keep things working reasonably under the above circumstances? Regards, Adam ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FireFly doesn't work with 3rd party anymore
Adam Goryachev wrote: I suppose I could do QoS on outbound, which should improve things somewhat for the remote caller, but that doesn't help inbound packets. Does anyone have any comments on what this would mean for VoIP calls with the above variables? I think the biggest problem is the jitter, does the IAX jitter buffer work at the moment? Would it keep things working reasonably under the above circumstances? Regards, Adam Depends on your end client, a Voip phone will handle that fine, otherwise I have no idea regarding the quality of the IAX jitter buffer - try it and see :) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
