Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
Hi Sean, We operate a VSAT network here in the Philippines (using Shiron, FDMA Bandwidth on Demand) and offer VoIP using asterisk. We do not sell our voip to our gilat clients since gilat has a higher latency (since it uses TDMA). Try to look for a satellite provider that has an average (to your country of voip destination) latency of below 600-800 ms and it must be consistent. Also since, satellite has low upload bandwidth, try to have QoS behind the satellite modem and prioritize VoIP traffic cxpcman wrote: Sean Rima wrote: I live in a very rural area, BB access will never happen and the only choice I have it Satellite. I seen from a post to this list that Gilat sat modems are not recommended. Is this still the case or is there another alternative? Sean ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Well is not recommended because of the seektime . the information you send and recive have a delay no matter how fast your conection is .. so you gonna hear the voice out of time . wire have a lot faster response times than air soo... ur choice ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
What provider to use depends of course of witch country you live in. We have a lot of customers in Africa who use iwayafrica. Many of the providers block Voip because they have own Voip service. For US we use New Era Systems, Inc Anders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Anthony C. Delfin Sent: den 26 september 2005 12:24 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP Hi Sean, We operate a VSAT network here in the Philippines (using Shiron, FDMA Bandwidth on Demand) and offer VoIP using asterisk. We do not sell our voip to our gilat clients since gilat has a higher latency (since it uses TDMA). Try to look for a satellite provider that has an average (to your country of voip destination) latency of below 600-800 ms and it must be consistent. Also since, satellite has low upload bandwidth, try to have QoS behind the satellite modem and prioritize VoIP traffic cxpcman wrote: Sean Rima wrote: I live in a very rural area, BB access will never happen and the only choice I have it Satellite. I seen from a post to this list that Gilat sat modems are not recommended. Is this still the case or is there another alternative? Sean ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Well is not recommended because of the seektime . the information you send and recive have a delay no matter how fast your conection is .. so you gonna hear the voice out of time . wire have a lot faster response times than air soo... ur choice ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
Date: 11/14/2003 03:43 AM Fix your system clock! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: Date: 11/14/2003 03:43 AM No no - that IS the date where he is living ;-) Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
ok then go ahead and try. but don't expect too much .the voices will be out of time . Sean Rima wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:43:21 -0800 cxpcman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean Rima wrote: I live in a very rural area, BB access will never happen and the only choice I have it Satellite. I seen from a post to this list that Gilat sat modems are not recommended. Is this still the case or is there another alternative? Well is not recommended because of the seektime . the information you send and recive have a delay no matter how fast your conection is .. so you gonna hear the voice out of time . wire have a lot faster response times than air soo... ur choice Sadly I have no choice, my nearest BB is over 60 miles away, the only community schemes are all SAT based anyway :( Sean ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:38:59 -0800 cxpcman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have future vision :) ok then go ahead and try. but don't expect too much .the voices will be out of time . Sadly I am aware of this now but ISDN is slow slow :) Sean -- Sean Rima Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Jabber/PSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 09:43:33 +0100 Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:38:59 -0800 cxpcman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have future vision :) ok then go ahead and try. but don't expect too much .the voices will be out of time . Sadly I am aware of this now but ISDN is slow slow :) Thinking here and this can be bad :) At the moment, my asterisk box is connected to the net via a network, which is not the best thign for it anyway.Should I get Sat BB, I may transfer the EiCON Diva ISDN card over to it. But will I be able to control it going live, ie I would only want it live whilst I was making an outgoing VOIP call and then drop the inet connection. Sean -- Sean Rima Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Jabber/PSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
--- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 09:43:33 +0100 Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:38:59 -0800 cxpcman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have future vision :) ok then go ahead and try. but don't expect too much .the voices will be out of time . Sadly I am aware of this now but ISDN is slow slow :) Thinking here and this can be bad :) At the moment, my asterisk box is connected to the net via a network, which is not the best thign for it anyway.Should I get Sat BB, I may transfer the EiCON Diva ISDN card over to it. But will I be able to control it going live, ie I would only want it live whilst I was making an outgoing VOIP call and then drop the inet connection. Sean I use a satellite connection and VOIP is ok! It depends,mostly, on what you expect! There's an inherent delay in the system usually about 700ms - 800ms! but this is bearable. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Julius Igugu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok then go ahead and try. but don't expect too much .the voices will be out of time . Sadly I am aware of this now but ISDN is slow slow :) Thinking here and this can be bad :) At the moment, my asterisk box is connected to the net via a network, which is not the best thign for it anyway.Should I get Sat BB, I may transfer the EiCON Diva ISDN card over to it. But will I be able to control it going live, ie I would only want it live whilst I was making an outgoing VOIP call and then drop the inet connection. Sean I use a satellite connection and VOIP is ok! It depends,mostly, on what you expect! There's an inherent delay in the system usually about 700ms - 800ms! but this is bearable. I know there is a latency due to the distance. What type of sat modem do you use etc (maybe we shoud take this offlist) Sean -- Sean Rima Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Jabber/PSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 12:14 -0700, Julius Igugu wrote: I use a satellite connection and VOIP is ok! It depends,mostly, on what you expect! There's an inherent delay in the system usually about 700ms - 800ms! but this is bearable. That depends on how you define satellite and the network itself... Satellites are things that orbit the earth (duh) but where they orbit is critical to latency. Some systems are in geostationary orbit and have much higher latencies. Radio signals go about the speed of light (just to cut off anyone who wants to correct my 'about' comment ... when passing through matter even light slows down). LEO (low earth orbiting) satellites that are not fixed to a given location in the sky are much closer, and have much ess latency. The newer variant of artificial satelites is a solar powered airplane, which is WAY closer and thus has much less latency (about 18 miles so the latency is hardly detectable from the RF link). afaik there are no stratelites (what the solar powered airplanes are now being called because they fly in the stratosphere) in active deployment but there are companies planning on doing those. 1 stratelite can do an area roughly the size of texas (for non americans that is a very large area, google it if you want to know the sq km/mi :) At 18 miles you still need a good antenna system (wifi has done 125 miles at 11mbps unamplified with a 300mw card so it is possible ...) A lot of satelite providers overload their networks for cost reasons (its really expensive to upgrade the routing equipment) as such those devices add extra latency to the mix, geostationary orbit is about 250ms each direction so anything over 500ms is normally caused by routing equipment not being able to transmit as quickly as it should ... With the newer systems coming out it should be even better. 18 miles would be no worse than wire based systems in most instances, provided the equipment is upgraded regularly, and time to deploy, dost to upgrade, etc are lower so that just might happen. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
RG384 - Gilat! --- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Julius Igugu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok then go ahead and try. but don't expect too much .the voices will be out of time . Sadly I am aware of this now but ISDN is slow slow :) Thinking here and this can be bad :) At the moment, my asterisk box is connected to the net via a network, which is not the best thign for it anyway.Should I get Sat BB, I may transfer the EiCON Diva ISDN card over to it. But will I be able to control it going live, ie I would only want it live whilst I was making an outgoing VOIP call and then drop the inet connection. Sean I use a satellite connection and VOIP is ok! It depends,mostly, on what you expect! There's an inherent delay in the system usually about 700ms - 800ms! but this is bearable. I know there is a latency due to the distance. What type of sat modem do you use etc (maybe we shoud take this offlist) Sean -- Sean Rima Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Jabber/PSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Julius Igugu SouthWork Co. Ltd. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re[2]: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
Hello Julius, Saturday, August 27, 2005, 10:38:18 PM, you wrote: RG384 - Gilat! That is the one I was thinking of going for :) Sean -- +---+ |VOIP= FreeWorldDial: 689482 VOIPBUSTER: thecivvie | |GPG Key http://thecivvie.fastmail.fm/thecivvie.asc | +---+ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
I live in a very rural area, BB access will never happen and the only choice I have it Satellite. I seen from a post to this list that Gilat sat modems are not recommended. Is this still the case or is there another alternative? Sean -- Sean Rima Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Jabber/PSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
Sean Rima wrote: I live in a very rural area, BB access will never happen and the only choice I have it Satellite. I seen from a post to this list that Gilat sat modems are not recommended. Is this still the case or is there another alternative? Sean ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Well is not recommended because of the seektime . the information you send and recive have a delay no matter how fast your conection is .. so you gonna hear the voice out of time . wire have a lot faster response times than air soo... ur choice ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Broadband and VOIP
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:43:21 -0800 cxpcman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean Rima wrote: I live in a very rural area, BB access will never happen and the only choice I have it Satellite. I seen from a post to this list that Gilat sat modems are not recommended. Is this still the case or is there another alternative? Well is not recommended because of the seektime . the information you send and recive have a delay no matter how fast your conection is .. so you gonna hear the voice out of time . wire have a lot faster response times than air soo... ur choice Sadly I have no choice, my nearest BB is over 60 miles away, the only community schemes are all SAT based anyway :( Sean -- Sean Rima Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Jabber/PSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
