Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue

2005-05-27 Thread Andrew Furey
> Only if you have your clothes on and they don't... ;-)

I should _hope_ they don't have your clothes on :)

Andrew

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue

2005-05-27 Thread Robert Webb


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Maybe I should my pictures in with me and supermodels. :-)

Cheers,
   -Scott




Only if you have your clothes on and they don't... ;-)



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue

2005-05-27 Thread Scott Wolfe
Maybe I should my pictures in with me and supermodels. :-)

Cheers,
   -Scott

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From: "Wiley Siler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue


LOL - You mean he actually 'met' Newt Gingrich?  How dare you not extend
him credit!!!
I mean seriously... For such a distinguished individual...

Hey, not only have I met the heads of several multi-billion dollar
corps, I have gotten absolutely blasted drunk with them.
So I should get credit, a 40% discount, and your daughters phone number,
right???  LOL

Seriously, though.  I think it is a sigh of relief that this hopefully
will be all over and off the list.
I for one have seen enough positive comments to know that your company
is a quality player.
The fact that you have followed up with the community and been so
forthright also says a lot.
Mistakes happen.  Sometimes people get inconvenienced.  The quality
companies address the issue and fix it as best they can.
I don't think we can ask for much more than that.  Keep up the good work
and keep that pricing aggressive...  8)

Cheers,
Wiley Siler
Who has been drunk with "important" people





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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue

2005-05-27 Thread Wiley Siler
LOL - You mean he actually 'met' Newt Gingrich?  How dare you not extend
him credit!!!
I mean seriously... For such a distinguished individual...

Hey, not only have I met the heads of several multi-billion dollar
corps, I have gotten absolutely blasted drunk with them.  
So I should get credit, a 40% discount, and your daughters phone number,
right???  LOL

Seriously, though.  I think it is a sigh of relief that this hopefully
will be all over and off the list.
I for one have seen enough positive comments to know that your company
is a quality player.
The fact that you have followed up with the community and been so
forthright also says a lot.
Mistakes happen.  Sometimes people get inconvenienced.  The quality
companies address the issue and fix it as best they can.
I don't think we can ask for much more than that.  Keep up the good work
and keep that pricing aggressive...  8)

Cheers,
Wiley Siler
Who has been drunk with "important" people





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue

2005-05-27 Thread Cory Andrews
I promise this will be the last chapter in the story, at least from my 
end.  If we could only get George Lucas to say the same thing about the 
godawful new Star Wars movies he keeps cranking out.


I did some research this morning, interviewed the involved parties on 
our end, and have come to the following conclusions.


We did indeed make an error on our end.  When the sales rep received the 
purchase order from Ken-Ton, he failed to notice they had supplied an 
alternate shipping address, and the order was put in with their default 
shipping address on file.  By the time the error was realized, perhaps a 
day's delay was incurred, and then we moved swiftly to correct the 
error.  All through this process, Darren claims to have been in constant 
contact with Ken-Ton Electronics to advise them of the situation.


Even in lieu of our poor performance, the customer did see fit to 
purchase additional equipment from us.  On their next order, Darren (the 
sales rep who committed the clerical error on the mis-shipped earlier 
order) took it upon himself to hand deliver the equipment to the 
customer site, and to offer his personal apology for the less than 
perfect service the first go-round.


In the course of Darren's conversation with the customer, the subject of 
credit terms arose.  Darren relayed to the customer that we generally do 
not offer terms to our customers, which is, for the most part, a true 
statement.  I suspect that the principals at Ken-Ton Electronics may 
have taken personal offense to our broad policy of not offering credit, 
and may in fact have concluded that we did not find them worthy of credit.


Unfortunately, due to the volatile nature of technology business, it is 
exceedingly difficult for us to make sound decision regarding the 
extension of credit to customers.  We are a quite large company, with 
annual sales for 2005 projected to approach $30 million in hardware 
sales, but at the same time we are privately funded and do not rely at 
this point on outside investment or venture capital.  Having written 
down signifigant bad debt at the end of 2004 from customers who had 
stellar D&B scores but still managed to find ways to bankrupt their 
companies, we made a decision only to extend credit to very large 
accounts, and only those we felt were completely risk free.  We knew we 
would perhaps lose or alienate some customers in the transition, but the 
long term pros far outweighed the short term cons.


In summary, we are still a bit amazed that the situation resulted in 
such a lengthy, public diatribe from Mr. Vesterling. 

Karl is and important and very busy fellow, and he has taken the liberty 
of sending me some photos of himself hobnobbing with other very 
important and very busy people, reminding me "*_Look...  You're in my 
hometown, and I'm not your average Buffalo Ambassador:"


_*I'm not sure what the point is there either, but here they are for 
your viewing pleasure.


Karl with former house speaker Newt Gingrich 
http://www.voipsupply.com/images/karl1.jpg


Karl with luminary Jack Quinn
http://www.voipsupply.com/images/karl2.jpg

We realize that time is money, and we will continue to improve our 
process with the ultimate goal of 100% customer satisfaction. 


Cory Andrews
Senior Partner
VOIPSupply.com
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V: 800.398.VOIP X22
F: 716.630.1548
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Karl J. Vesterling wrote:


At 08:59 AM 5/27/2005, you wrote:


[ snip for brevity ]
I just wanted to clarify ... this isn't a voipsupply.com problem at 
all, but
rather a courier screwup... which happens anywhere and at anytime... 
right?



TWO screw ups in the shipment.
1.) It was shipped to the Bill-To address.  Since there is no one 
there during the day I had to sit and wait for it lest it not be 
delivered.


2.) when an order is placed on a Tuesday AM (or) Monday PM, and it's 
priority overnight, and it's across town, and the tracking number was 
supplied on Wednesday one would expect that it would show up Thursday, 
not Friday.


So, what we have here is one problem compounded by another, none on 
behalf of the courier.



-A.
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